Sick of Pro Photo?

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Everybody seems to be using pro photo blogs now to showcase their work, particularly wedding and portrait photographers.

I just wanted to highlight that there are other (potentially better) services out there. If you want an out of the box solution, without the need for much customisation, yet still want something a little more unique than what Pro Photo has become, have a look at Squarespace
 
Not sure what the beef is here? TBH, I've never heard of Pro Photo... I've just had to Google it and to be fair, they look good. Squarespace look decent too. Can't see what the issue is....

You need to get out more
 
Not sure what the beef is here? TBH, I've never heard of Pro Photo... I've just had to Google it and to be fair, they look good. Squarespace look decent too. Can't see what the issue is....

You need to get out more

No beef at all. In fact, Pro photo is great as an out of the box solution for a website. I was just pointing out there are other, cheap and equally as good alternatives that people are probably not aware of when they come to building a site for themselves, so just wanted to highlight Squarespace. Nothing more.

Perhaps the wrong section for this forum, just wasn't sure where to put it?!

We all need to get out more.
 
Perhaps it's the negativity in the headline.

Just posting in the appropriate section a great vfm all in one website solution might seem less 'aggressive'?
 
Square space looks nice but very boring as usaul plain Jane backgrounds.....

We are revamping our websites over next 3 months and i want vibrant not plain backgrounds... web sites should reflect style and vibrancy....

Grey and white are so .....boring...... I like movie websites with graphic textures etc... all this is to enhance the viewing pleasure....

Any tog that states it's all about the 'just' the image really is missing the point.

Great images need great shop windows. the overall web design reaslly does reflect the tog.

If it's dull lifeless like white and grey..... I'd exspect John Major to be taking the shots......

Any one know of any snazzy looking web design firms out there?
 
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Square space looks nice but very boring as usaul plain Jane backgrounds.....

We are revamping our websites over next 3 months and i want vibrant not plain backgrounds... web sites should reflect style and vibrancy....

Grey and white are so .....boring...... I like movie websites with graphic textures etc... all this is to enhance the viewing pleasure....

Any tog that states it's all about the 'just' the image really is missing the point.

Great images need great shop windows. the overall web design reaslly does reflect the tog.

If it's dull lifeless like white and grey..... I'd exspect John Major to be taking the shots......

Any one know of any snazzy looking web design firms out there?

I have no idea of your skill level or experience, but unless you're targeting private individuals or very local companies, you are very mistaken in regards to what makes a decent website.

You don't want anything distracting focus from the image. The same way you don't want anything in a photography distracting attention from the subject. Composition in web design is as important as photography.

You say web designs should reflect style and vibrancy.. Why? The website just showcases the person who designed it, it doesn't say anything about your ability with a camera. Your PHOTOS should reflect style and vibrancy.
 
Total shash John.

Pesentation1 Presentation!!!!

No offence meant by this as with everything it's personnel taste. But take a look at the ops site. Sorry Ben. Put the plain look of the overall site... looks like it was made in the 50s when there was no internet.

You say web designs should reflect style and vibrancy.. Why? The website just showcases the person who designed it, it doesn't say anything about your ability with a camera. Your PHOTOS should reflect style and vibrancy.

The web site is your window it is you. Not just a vehicle to show work. It's more than that.... Guess uni did show you anything about presentation then John.

There is a chap on here called Cezare. His work is stunning, some of the best I've seen as a member on here. Then he got feedback from people on here that have oodles of style and personality and it went to plain uninteresting white wash shash.

You have an image and you have the surrounding presentation.

If most wedding photographers on here converted their portfolio into the old style of A1 size portfolio it would all look the great images stuck on white or grey card.
Lurvly.....NOT.
 
Perhaps it's the negativity in the headline.

Just posting in the appropriate section a great vfm all in one website solution might seem less 'aggressive'?

Fair point, Phil. In hindsight, it looks like I'm knocking Pro Photo, which is not the case at all.

Square space looks nice but very boring as usaul plain Jane backgrounds.....

We are revamping our websites over next 3 months and i want vibrant not plain backgrounds... web sites should reflect style and vibrancy....

Grey and white are so .....boring...... I like movie websites with graphic textures etc... all this is to enhance the viewing pleasure....

Any tog that states it's all about the 'just' the image really is missing the point.

Great images need great shop windows. the overall web design reaslly does reflect the tog.

If it's dull lifeless like white and grey..... I'd exspect John Major to be taking the shots......

Any one know of any snazzy looking web design firms out there?

See, I see a white background and I think 'clean, timeless'. I look at graphic textures and think 'how 90's!'.

I prefer to concentrate on nice fonts, good spacing, responsiveness (design changes based on browser width for optimum view) etc Whereas you prefer things a little more, umm, obvious. And that's fine, but popping up in a thread just to bash something you don't like (which I see you do very often) just makes you look a bit silly.

We get it.
 
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i said no offence Ben. It's personal taste. i don't mine going for total revamp and besopke look to it. i have used Zenfolio for the weddings which i do not want many of. but it is a twemplate site and whilst the back room is great. The templates are very ltd.

Web site is also about presenting your work and yourself. with 28,000 photographers out there full and part time why would anyone want to be the same.

It's like you are listening to the colour Beige on your Ipod.

When photographers do this it looks like they have not given any thought to who theey are what they are.

Which would you choose ? The Ford focus in silver paint basic model or the Ford focus RS in Bright Orange? Rs is my choice if a Jag is not on the table.

It is a personal choice..... But why all look the same and think 'Less is more' because it isn't.

Not having a bash at you Ben.
 
Not having a pop at you Ben. I just looked who you used and i found it less inspiring than Zenfolio. Which have tried on one of mine..... and I'm not keen on Zen either.

As they said in last month Professional photography togs need to move away from template sites and go bespoke . Stand out from the crowd. Begining to think they are right.

Other pet hate is when togs say they are ''Married, 8 kids and I like white water badger surfing! Oh me and the kids also like to do Squirril juggling. you see a picture my gallery if you like...... Awwwwwwww, cute eh?''

Who cares? Togs have that naff site Face book to tell the World their private life.

Clients want to see your work some style and know you can do the job they want you to do.

Now I'm off to redo my web sites because they need redoing and look naff.
 
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Total shash John.

Pesentation1 Presentation!!!!

No offence meant by this as with everything it's personnel taste. But take a look at the ops site. Sorry Ben. Put the plain look of the overall site... looks like it was made in the 50s when there was no internet.



The web site is your window it is you. Not just a vehicle to show work. It's more than that.... Guess uni did show you anything about presentation then John.

There is a chap on here called Cezare. His work is stunning, some of the best I've seen as a member on here. Then he got feedback from people on here that have oodles of style and personality and it went to plain uninteresting white wash shash.

You have an image and you have the surrounding presentation.

If most wedding photographers on here converted their portfolio into the old style of A1 size portfolio it would all look the great images stuck on white or grey card.
Lurvly.....NOT.

You are literally the only person I've ever met who says the websites visual look is important. I've discussed this exact topic with directors of ad agencies, art directors, creative directors, art buyers, graphic designers and other photographers.

The consensus is that if you're selling to an individual, that is, a private client, then a website will benefit from bells and whistles because an individual isn't able to work purely on the merit of someone's portfolio.

However, agencies and people buying for commercial clients, and this I have been told numerous times, don't care or even want a pretty website. They want one that is fast, functional, clean, and easy to navigate with as few distractions as possible. It has to load quickly and provide very little challenge to anyone trying to extract information from it.

There are instances where a stunning design can help. That is if you trade under the name of a studio rather than an individual, as a studio is able to market itself as a brand far easier than a person. Mostly, a beautifully designed website is something you can buy with ease, and does very little to express or enhance the photographer or his ability.

I didn't go to university, so can confirm that they taught me nothing about presentation. But, since I'm more successful than most people who did go to university, I'm assuming it didn't have much to teach me.

Now you know, since you said what you've said, I've gone and taken a look at your sites. I'd put my single commercial site up against all three of yours sites in terms of aesthetic quality and overall professional standard, and my website has absolutely no bells and whistles of any kind. Tell me if you disagree.
 
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A lot of people do get bespoke websites, me included. I built it on Wordpress with a theme taken and adapted from themeforest. If you know what you're doing, there is no need to pay hundreds if not thousands for a bespoke website.

The thing is people use Pro photo because it works straight away with minimal fuss, the above only works if you have a bit of knowledge of HTML, CSS, and Wordpress.

I would never encourage anyone to use Zenfolio, unless it's for private client galleries.

People put little things about their private lives on their website as it makes them appear more approachable. Some just do it because they think they are quirky, and yes, that's annoying.

You can keep it simple and stand out, that's for sure. And in answer to your question, I'd go for the silver Ford Focus.
 
i said no offence Ben. It's personal taste. i don't mine going for total revamp and besopke look to it. i have used Zenfolio for the weddings which i do not want many of. but it is a twemplate site and whilst the back room is great. The templates are very ltd.

Web site is also about presenting your work and yourself. with 28,000 photographers out there full and part time why would anyone want to be the same.

It's like you are listening to the colour Beige on your Ipod.

When photographers do this it looks like they have not given any thought to who theey are what they are.

Which would you choose ? The Ford focus in silver paint basic model or the Ford focus RS in Bright Orange? Rs is my choice if a Jag is not on the table.

It is a personal choice..... But why all look the same and think 'Less is more' because it isn't.

Not having a bash at you Ben.

But if you are selling a bright orange focus you are selling the car, when you are selling the photo, it is like you are selling an image of a model sat on the bonnet, you do not want the car to outshine the model.
I suppose it depends what you are selling but if as in my case Landscape and wildlife I dont want a site that detracts from the image.
If I was selling product to trendy young things, then I would favour a trendy website.
After all at a wedding you probably wouldnt want the bride to arrive in a Ferrari because nobody would be watching her?
I agree its personal choice though
 
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