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A question which has hit me while browsing here and preloved tonight :)

what is good/bad for 2nd hand camera shutter counts?

I have no idea what mine is at but what kind of shutter count do they basically need to be more careful at?
thanks :)
 
how do you find out how many shutter counts a cam has done?

id like to also know about my own!

ive emailed about one already and yet to ask the above question (hence why im asking) on preloved.... and one on here which i already kno

thanks :)
 
suze23 said:
how do you find out how many shutter counts a cam has done?

id like to also know about my own!

ive emailed about one already and yet to ask the above question (hence why im asking) on preloved.... and one on here which i already kno

thanks :)
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Most encode it in the EXIF data of each image. You can see the EXIF data in Photoshop and many other image editing software packages. You can even upload to flickr and then get it to dump out the EXIF data (Actions->View EXIF data).

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I think I'd rather have a 1 year old camera with a regular shutter count of say 10000 actuations rather than one thats done 350 actuations... To me - if it's used averagely and regularly that would give me more confidence than one that's sat in the cupboard for 11 months and come out twice... I prefer things to be used regularly - that way if they're going to fail, I think they'd fail far sooner... If that makes sense :) My body has just gone to Canon - and they've emailed me today to say I'm up to 35000 in 15 months... A long way to go until the 'life expectancy' of 200,000...
 
Thanks both :)

soo glad of this forum - id be a bit stumped if i couldnt ask my daft questions :D
 
you can only shutter count on certain cameras..deffo not all... for example you could on a 1dmkII but you cant on a 1dmkIV .. beware of shutter counts that use the filenames as thats plain silly and most unreliable..

each different camera model has different shutter life "guide"... i think mines 300 thousand but my last camera was 150 thousand

these are just guidelines and as previous poster says.. in reality they can go anytime..
 
Roland200 said:
The easiest way is go to 'Myshuttercount.com' and upload a photo. It can be a Jpeg, Raw or Tiff and it will give you your shutter count.
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I agree with this post, I didn't know how to get my camera's shutter count until I asked on here and found it really easily using this website.
 
just used that website and im shocked how many times ive not pressed that shutter lol!

think thats a big hint to take far more pics lol! :D

ive bookmarked it - very helpful - thank you :)
 
suze23 said:
just used that website and im shocked how many times ive not pressed that shutter lol!

think thats a big hint to take far more pics lol! :D

ive bookmarked it - very helpful - thank you :)
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If you use Flickr you'll also find the shutter count for your camera (in most cases and assuming the exif data has not been stripped) by clicking on the link that tells you the make/model of camera used for each photo.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
If you use Flickr you'll also find the shutter count for your camera (in most cases and assuming the exif data has not been stripped) by clicking on the link that tells you the make/model of camera used for each photo.
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Not for all makes/models.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Doesn't really matter, a camera can fail at 100 shots or last to 100,000....
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... so you would pay the same for a second hand car with 100,000 miles on it as you would for the same car with 5000 mikes?

In fact the 100 shots is still in the high risk area. If you draw a graph of numbers of failures against time, you get a high rate initially, but it drops off quite quickly (these are units which have not been assembled correctly or have defective components) then levels out and stays steady for some time then it starts to rise as the product wears out. The graph looks like a cross section of a bath lengthways. People refer to early failure as "tap end of the bath" failures.
 
cjay said:
Most should be repairable - assuming it isn't so old that the parts are no longer available.

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That's good news - i was starting to worry there...

I tried the site mentioned before but can't seem to find out my camera's shutter count:(
 
Just use your camera and enjoy it without worrying about the shutter count. Some cameras last much less than others so the count does not matter really, it is mostly a matter of luck when it will break down.
 
cymruchris said:
I think I'd rather have a 1 year old camera with a regular shutter count of say 10000 actuations rather than one thats done 350 actuations... To me - if it's used averagely and regularly that would give me more confidence than one that's sat in the cupboard for 11 months and come out twice... I prefer things to be used regularly - that way if they're going to fail, I think they'd fail far sooner... If that makes sense :) My body has just gone to Canon - and they've emailed me today to say I'm up to 35000 in 15 months... A long way to go until the 'life expectancy' of 200,000...
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+1 things usually work better when used more regulary. I wouldn't worry much about it.
 
Chris Primadona said:
Aye I know, at the same time I'm not going to worry too much about it going. I just hope it does fail when I'm taking a shapshot of the dog or something :lol:
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i got to keele uni last wed to stay there for 3 days shooting a football tournament.. the shutter on my mkIV went at around dinner time on first day :(

thank goodness I ahve two :)

canon recieved it this monday and its now in transit back to me for tommorow.. new shutter under warranty
 
KIPAX said:
i got to keele uni last wed to stay there for 3 days shooting a football tournament.. the shutter on my mkIV went at around dinner time on first day :(

thank goodness I ahve two :)

canon recieved it this monday and its now in transit back to me for tommorow.. new shutter under warranty
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I would have assumed the mkIV would be pretty good in that department too. I only have one body right now, but a 5dmkII will be with me in the next week or so.
 
Chris Primadona said:
I would have assumed the mkIV would be pretty good in that department too. I only have one body right now, but a 5dmkII will be with me in the next week or so.
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both my mkIVs have had the shutter replaced now.. longest was first one aftre 14 months.. they are used a lot.. but nothing like 350 thousand as listed for mine I think
 
Good to know, I kind of assumed I wouldn't have to worry about mine for a while. I was also thinking about changing the mkIII for the mkIV soon. Do you think it was a bad batch problem or just "acceptable" wear and tear that caused the shutter fails?
 
Chris Primadona said:
Good to know, I kind of assumed I wouldn't have to worry about mine for a while. I was also thinking about changing the mkIII for the mkIV soon. Do you think it was a bad batch problem or just "acceptable" wear and tear that caused the shutter fails?
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Both my mkIVs bought a year apart.. feb 10 and feb 11 so no bad batch.. I must average a thousand pics a week maybe more.. never really checked.. but still nowhere near the amount..

I had 2 mkIIIs before these and 2 mkIIs before that.. loadso f trouble with one of the IIIs and a shutter replacment..

Must be me :)
 
Roland200 said:
The easiest way is go to 'Myshuttercount.com' and upload a photo. It can be a Jpeg, Raw or Tiff and it will give you your shutter count.
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Thanks for that. Just checked and I've only taken about 3000 of the 5113 showing since I got it at the tail end of last year, S/H.:)
 
Chris Primadona said:
You do seem a bit unlucky with shutters Kipax!

I just uploaded to that 'Myshuttercount" site and it says 7591. I think that number must be a fair bit off to be honest!
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you cant do a shutter count on a mkIII or a mkIV .. but you could on a mkII

I would take any results from that site with a pinch of salt to be honest :)
 
As above. It's unpredictable, and reinforces the need for a second body - or camera - if you're shooting anything critical and/or unrepeatable. Cameras fail for other reasons too.
 
Chris Primadona said:
Yeah I noticed! I will probably get the camera in for a service at some point and find out the true number while I'm at it.
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canon seem quite happy to tell you the count no problem... so annoying they dont include it in the exif though :(
 
Chris Primadona said:
Yeah I noticed! I will probably get the camera in for a service at some point and find out the true number while I'm at it.
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Well Flickr confirm the same number on mine. I must admit I thought it would have been more but there you go.:shrug:
 
Doog said:
Well Flickr confirm the same number on mine. I must admit I thought it would have been more but there you go.:shrug:
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I think a lot of cameras will show the true actuations while others don't. You got to wonder if they take that number from the file system though, and how changing cards/resetting the camera would effect the number they come up with.
 
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