Show us yer film shots then!

Its "grain"

The problem with scanners is that they will show all the grain up as I think their light source is more direct and closer to the neg.

If you were printing them in a darkroom then using a difused light source you would not see so much grain.

I have found in the past scanning 400 iso 35mm film will give a fair bit of grain, great if you want it not so good if you don't.

PS I like the shots
 
Knikki said:
Its "grain"

The problem with scanners is that they will show all the grain up as I think their light source is more direct and closer to the neg.

If you were printing them in a darkroom then using a difused light source you would not see so much grain.

I have found in the past scanning 400 iso 35mm film will give a fair bit of grain, great if you want it not so good if you don't.

PS I like the shots
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Yes , I understand that its just this one has more grain than other similar rolls.

I wonder if they were not corrrectly exposed.
 
Well hope you are not offended but the B/w shots looks like they were taken with a Kodak brownie in the 40s to early fifties.
 
What's with the really pale circles at the top of the pictures? All the skies look to have whitish polka-dots?
 
On another point, I love the composition in all but the first two, where the main subject is slap bang in the middle of the picture. The last one is redeemed by the fact that there is a swathe of grass cutting across the picture, which shifts the focus somewhat to a more pleasing composition. The rule of thirds would have been good for the first two shots, imho.
 
Thanks for the feedback.

I honestly didn't notice that polka dot effect before. I wonder what that is? Any ideas?

Composition is the only thing I really concentrate on when shooting film.

edit/ I've got plenty more to post. I posted them in the general section but they don't have the impact with the rest of the stuff I'm up against.
 
Could it also have something to do with the scanning process, rather than anything with your camera?

Re the composition - I really like the shots and the composition is great in the majority of them. It's all subjective though and just my opinion.
 
Just got a roll of Kodak Portra back, quite happy with results, all taken in Southern Spain on a Mamiya C330.

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sidxms said:
Yes , I understand that its just this one has more grain than other similar rolls.

I wonder if they were not corrrectly exposed.
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HMM!! Not unless you set something wrong on the F5, I would expect the F5 to be spot on all the time unless you accidentally set the ISO to 800 instead of 400.

Is Fuji 400h a print film and did you get the film scanned at the same time as the development?

If so it could be poor scanning.

I am curious now I am going to look for some old Fuji 1600 print film I have around and scan that just as a comparison, but it will be tomorrow before I do that I am to :beer: to do it now :D
 
Yes, very weird. I'm very interested to see whether anyone can shed light on the polka-dot effect.
 
sidxms said:
I scanned the film at home on my epson v300.

I.ve not seen that polka dot effect before though on similar film from the batch.

weird stuff
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HMM!!! odd indeed (Shirlock Holmes type voice).

I am not familiar with the Epson 300 series but couple of things.

Polka dot effect maybe the dev place was using chemicals that were close to being changed, so the dev has not worked so well?

I assume you have scanned them at the max settings of the scanner, have you tried scanning at a lower res?

Does the scanner have ICE or Colour Restoration facilities? are they on? do they need to be on? switch them on and see if makes a difference but set them low to start off with.

I have just had another look and I can now see the "polka dot effect"

Do you have a light box or some way of magnifying the neg with out it in the scanner?

If so check to see if there is any **** on there.

Last time I had some stuff done at a high street lab I thought they had used the negs to clean the floor there was so much **** on them
 
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sidxms said:
Is that a good thing?:eek:
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Well I reckon you are playing a joke on the forum, as the quality of your pics reminds me of some of the shots taken with those old cheap cameras.
 
david1701 said:
bit harsh excalibur :D
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Well not really as he knew what the quality was like before he posted, without any questions about what went wrong.
The quality of some of the shots in this thread, make my best efforts look pathetic, and he should have known that as well.
 
sidxms said:
:(

Those were taken with a F5 + 50mm F1.2 AIS and 300mm F4

Something is up with that roll though as mentioned already.
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Well with the latitude of film, the accuracy of good modern cameras for exposure and with decent lenses, the compensation when printing from a shop/lab machine for errors...........it's quite difficult to get crappy results.

Quite funny today at a boot sale, while I was talking to a guy who had camera gear on his stall, when a person come up and said "did we know anything about cameras", he had bought two very old Kodak brownies for 50p and wanted to know what film to use, these ones looks like 35mm......but I told the guy to throw them in the bin and get a decent P&S like Nikon or Canon for a £1.....LOL
That was the best advice as the guy was about 18 years old and on him seeing the results from film with this camera it would have put him off and he would have gone digital.
 
Finally sorted myself as scanner (HP scanjet G4050 - just can't afford the Epson v750 just now :( )

Shot of Linlithgow Palace, 5x4 using MPP Microtechnical MkVIII with Schneider 150mm f5.6 lens and Fuji Velvia 50. 10 stop filter and 15 minute ish exposure.

Had some issues when scanning my B&W which i'll get fixed and some newton rings also :(

biggest issue with this one though was the edges of the sheets all marked from the company who dev'd them - obvisouly little clips etc, but they really are a pain

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ifotou said:
Shot of Linlithgow Palace, 5x4 using MPP Microtechnical MkVIII with Schneider 150mm f5.6 lens and Fuji Velvia 50. 10 stop filter and 15 minute ish exposure.
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nice pic

I'm not sure Velvia 50 is the best choice for long exposures, it gets colour casts, maybe that's what the green is...I dunno.
Maybe you can balance it more in pp..
 
Right, lets pool resources and try and get sidxms sorted with this dodgy film/scan/process thing.

Those dots look regular, not random blotching from ropey developer, could they be drying marks, as though the film had been placed on some kind of grid to dry, pic 3 is not so random but it could have been moved during drying.
Can't see it being caused by the scanner, I'm guessing they're on the negs and its something that happened during processing.
 
joxby said:
Right, lets pool resources and try and get sidxms sorted with this dodgy film/scan/process thing.

Those dots look regular, not random blotching from ropey developer, could they be drying marks, as though the film had been placed on some kind of grid to dry, pic 3 is not so random but it could have been moved during drying.
Can't see it being caused by the scanner, I'm guessing they're on the negs and its something that happened during processing.
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Hadn't noticed the regularity before Jox but you are, of course, right... :D ... looks like it could be some sort of sucker/grippy type pad thingy perhaps... :shrug: ... and it is over the whole picture too in that regularised form... :suspect:


Where's Sherlock's Dr Watson when you need him... :naughty:






:p
 
***looks like it could be some sort of sucker/grippy type pad thingy****

Well with firms facing difficulties paying staff it could be a trained octupus handling the prints before they are dry.
 
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***looks like it could be some sort of sucker/grippy type pad thingy****

Well with firms facing difficulties paying staff it could be a trained octupus handling the prints before they are dry.
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lol :)

I actually got two rolls developed that day so I'll check the other roll if it has that polka dot pattern.

I'm not too bothered as that was the last of my C41 stuff. When uni restarts, I'll be shooting some slide film and darkroom B/W.

I've been round blapto(martin)'s house to rule out the scanner so I'm putting this down to the dogi roll/developing.
 
All of these from the same roll - used the Contax G2 and Ektachrome 400

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Venomator said:


Hadn't noticed the regularity before Jox but you are, of course, right... :D ... looks like it could be some sort of sucker/grippy type pad thingy perhaps... :shrug: ... and it is over the whole picture too in that regularised form... :suspect:


Where's Sherlock's Dr Watson when you need him... :naughty:


I'm rather surprised nobody spotted these regular blotches until I pointed them out. They just jumped off my computer screen at me - they were the first thing I saw, rather than what the pictures were actually of.

I reckon the drying idea sounds likely, due to the regularity of the spots.

The octopus comment made me laugh! :-)






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don't know why my reply came out as though Venomator said it. Oh well.

I said that I was surprised nobody noticed the blotches until I pointed them out, as they jumped off the computer screen at me, even before I noticed what the pictures were of! Maybe I'm just super-picky.
 
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sidxms said:
lol :)

I actually got two rolls developed that day so I'll check the other roll if it has that polka dot pattern.

I'm not too bothered as that was the last of my C41 stuff. When uni restarts, I'll be shooting some slide film and darkroom B/W.

I've been round blapto(martin)'s house to rule out the scanner so I'm putting this down to the dogi roll/developing.
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Well don't give up film because of a few failures, here's one of my cockups you can laugh at, caused by a bulk film loader that I had forgotten to use properly:-

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn172/chakrata/70-210macro-1.jpg

Medium format is worth playing with, crushes 35mm for quality and keeps the digital guys quiet..... re digital ver film arguments.

Medium format 6X4.5 Bronica 75 or 80 mm lens:-
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Medium format Zeiss Planar 80mm f2.8
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Medium format RB67 180mm lens
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Don't worry, I'm not giving up on film anytime soon. I have access to anice darkroom at uni so its very cheap to develop, etc.

Medium format is the next step for me. Although I'm tempted to save up for a nice rangefinder. Would love something like a M6+35 f1.4 hehe

sid
 
The "polka dots" are on a number of the shots, I would bet you a million pounds* its coming from the pressure plate if I hadn't googled a picture of the F5 to see it has a smotth plate.

Its something like that though, something touching the film during processing or exposure. Does the film have a good modern anti-halation layer?
 
raathistle said:
The "polka dots" are on a number of the shots, I would bet you a million pounds* its coming from the pressure plate if I hadn't googled a picture of the F5 to see it has a smotth plate.

Its something like that though, something touching the film during processing or exposure. Does the film have a good modern anti-halation layer?
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I thought that too, must be the mamiya 6 connection..;), couldn't figure out how the plate could mark the film though...


ekimeno said:
All of these from the same roll - used the Contax G2 and Ektachrome 400
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What do you think to Ektachrome then ?
 
A simple polaroid test from Thursday.
Both 4x5, Daylight balanced, 100 iso f22@1/60th

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Note the parent/child in the large version.
 
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sidxms said:
Don't worry, I'm not giving up on film anytime soon. I have access to anice darkroom at uni so its very cheap to develop, etc.

Medium format is the next step for me. Although I'm tempted to save up for a nice rangefinder. Would love something like a M6+35 f1.4 hehe

sid
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me to

though a 5dII and 30mm f1.4 would be nice too :D
 
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