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I came across this gem from a share on Facebook.

To summarise:

She's morbidly obese and we as tax payers have to support her as she's medically unfit to work.

Now to get off the support and assist her to get fit for work she subsequently refuses to take a helping hand towards self sufficiency from us tax payers.

My question is: Why exactly should we, as tax payers, continue to support her?

What's your views?
 
Sweet nothing to do with how 0.00000000000003% of your taxes are spent!
 
Mikesphotaes said:
Sweet nothing to do with how 0.00000000000003% of your taxes are spent!
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It's the principle. Apathy. For evil to prevail all it needs is for good people to say or do nothing.

It's shameful. And I'm glad she's got the chance of free healthcare to give her a chance at life, but to refuse it and choose benefits is to me freeloading.
 
Another red top rag headline.
Shocker.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Stop her benefits. She'll soon lose weight.
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She only needs drinking water to survive for the next 12 months. That would do the job; I mean she could then do some job :)
 
I think the daily fry ups are probably the only thing that IS helping. If she could stop following the NHS advice to eat plenty of pasta and potatoes she'd start shifting the weight.

Given that she's that weight in large part because of following the advice she was given, I personally think society and she have responsibilities to each other.
 
Moadib said:
I think the daily fry ups are probably the only thing that IS helping. If she could stop following the NHS advice to eat plenty of pasta and potatoes she'd start shifting the weight.

Given that she's that weight in large part because of following the advice she was given, I personally think society and she have responsibilities to each other.
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Whilst I've got some sympathy for that comment, there is also the element that it also advises to exercise. The advice and education provided is a rounded package, if people then only pick the parts they like and then turn out like that, you can't really blame the system. Nah personal responsibility is what is required...
 
dejongj said:
Whilst I've got some sympathy for that comment, there is also the element that it also advises to exercise. The advice and education provided is a rounded package, if people then only pick the parts they like and then turn out like that, you can't really blame the system. Nah personal responsibility is what is required...
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She certainly is a rounded package.
 
She is only one of many thousands who scam the system and are too feckin lazy to do anything about it because everything is taken from the hard working person and put into their pockets........if you listen carefully you can actually hear these layabouts laugh behind our backs........
 
crofter said:
She should be fitted with valves and the blubber could be syphoned off at regular intervals and used as biofuel, why drill holes in the ground for oil when we have a vauable resource right here.
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ROFL
 
'Time to end this abuse of the system' says Tam Fry of the National Obesity Forum
 
I don't blame her for not wanting the operation I myself have rejected the operation and my doctors have accepted that, however her refusal to take any action to help her situation is disgraceful at 28st she is not that fat, hell at 45+ stone I was holding down full time employment doing on average 60 hours a week including over time...

Her size will restrict employment opportunities there's no denying that, this is the problem I had however it is by no means a complete barrier to employment, there are plenty of jobs that she could do...

To be honest as a morbidly obese person stories like this always annoy the hell out of me as I've never seen my size as a disability, it's a restriction I know that, there are things that until I lose the weight I just cannot do physically however I also thing that is a lot more to be done in areas like this I don't agree that the benefits should be stopped, what I do believe is that they should be linked into weight loss...and as soon as she is physically able to which imo should be soon she should be put back on work related benefits instead...
 
For evil to prevail all it needs is for good people to say or do nothing.
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Sometimes I turn off the ignore switch in order to see what "gems" i've missed. This quote ironically almost tempts me not to press the ignore button again. Almost.
 
As a disabled person who worked for DWP and found it ironic that I had one particular client that was unable to walk up one flight of stairs due too being massive. I am 'big boned' and walk with a stick (due to a congenital defect) but was still expected to make the trip
 
It's hard not to feel angry at stories like this even though they are a tiny/minuscule/infinitesimal proportion.

I would ask a couple of questions:
Who gets her food into the house? Can they cut out the crap for fry ups
Why does she have a cat if she can't clean up after it? If the boyfriend won't do it, tough, give it to the RSPCA.
Why does she deserve a cleaner? Can her boyfriend not do the cleaning? Most people work and keep a tidy house

I probably agree with the quote from Tam Fry - "there is a social responsibility to help [snip] with someone refusing that help, they should have their benefits stopped"

Her income (presumably tax free) is £675 a month and she gets a free bungalow, that's more than my income after tax, mortgage and council tax, let alone costs of running my car to get to and from work etc - I know I'm building equity in my house and she's not, but the bottom line that angers me is she has more disposable income than I do
 
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Uneducated_Rick said:
It's hard not to feel angry at stories like this even though they are a tiny/minuscule/infinitesimal proportion.

I would ask a couple of questions:
Who gets her food into the house? Can they cut out the crap for fry ups
Why does she have a cat if she can't clean up after it? If the boyfriend won't do it, tough, give it to the RSPCA.
Why does she deserve a cleaner? Can her boyfriend not do the cleaning? Most people work and keep a tidy house

I probably agree with the quote from Tam Fry - "there is a social responsibility to help [snip] with someone refusing that help, they should have their benefits stopped"

Her income (presumably tax free) is £675 a month and she gets a free bungalow, that's more than my income after tax, mortgage and council tax, let alone costs of running my car to get to and from work etc - I know I'm building equity in my house and she's not, but the bottom line that angers me is she has more disposable income than I do
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And you'll probably have to get rid of that equity that you are saving when you are old and need looking after....
 
arclight said:
How does anyone need advice on how to avoid becoming a glutton ? Self evident.
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If it were self-evident she wouldn't be the weight that she was. Either we think that she wants to be that weight, and is stuffing herself despite not feeling hungry, or for some reason she is continually hungrier than the people on here casting judgement on her. Instead of judging, if we were to start wondering WHY she is hungrier than others despite a higher calorie intake, we'd be on the road to actually helping her.
 
Moadib said:
If it were self-evident she wouldn't be the weight that she was. Either we think that she wants to be that weight, and is stuffing herself despite not feeling hungry, or for some reason she is continually hungrier than the people on here casting judgement on her. Instead of judging, if we were to start wondering WHY she is hungrier than others despite a higher calorie intake, we'd be on the road to actually helping her.
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Did you actually read the article linked? It has some pretty big clues in it ;)
 
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try cutting out bacon for a start. one thing that intrigues me, given several years of difficulty in finding accomodation is that if I became morbidly obese, would my local council offer me rent free accomodation?

And I am informed, should I claim I am supposed to live (as the Law states) apart fromhousing costs and help with council tax on....wait for it £70 a week or 10% of her payments. Maybe if she had to live on this amount, this would lead to more healthy food and help towards weight loss

No landlord likes a dirty tenant. Maybe a short sharp shock...clean your home or loose it might help

another economy regarding weight loss could be flour....not for food, but so her boyfriend can locate the damp spot
 
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kennethwfd said:
try cutting out bacon for a start.
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Okay. When she follows your above instruction and STILL stays fat (indeed gets even fatter) will you accept responsibility for her condition? Because it's exactly that kind of advice that's making and keeping her fat.
 
Moadib said:
Okay. When she follows your above instruction and STILL stays fat (indeed gets even fatter) will you accept responsibility for her condition? Because it's exactly that kind of advice that's making and keeping her fat.
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How about doing some exercise, at least 10,000 steps every single day, cut out the fry-ups, and the heavy carbs from the daily diet....Once that combination has been going for say six to eight weeks, AND there has been no snacking whatsoever, then I may be listening to what you say...Considering that her health visitors are already telling her all that and she is not going along with it, well you are on a loser there @Moadib
 
neil_g said:
And then what? Make them resort to crime to pay for food? Reduce them to falling back on the nhs?

Just cutting the benefits isn't a solution that takes the load off the system..
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We could ship them to a cheaper country :exit:
 
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neil_g said:
And then what? Make them resort to crime to pay for food? Reduce them to falling back on the nhs?

Just cutting the benefits isn't a solution that takes the load off the system..
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If people wish to avoid work and the chance of supporting themselves why should we nanny them.

Resort to crime, then they go to jail. They might resort to working ;)
 
ST4 said:
As is the one that someone too fat to work will turn to crime. Won't she be too fat to be a crook and steal cookies
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because no crimes can be committed from the comfort of your own home? how many dealers get raided while sitting on their sofas.

but its an extreme scenario.

you haven't really said how you'd take the burden off the system though. say you take away the benefits, she becomes ill and ends up in hospital. more tax payers money wasted there..

it'd be better to take control of her diet, but that'd never happen after all you can't force feed someone.
 
You can encourage by reducing it to the bare minimum. No cleaning, no taxis, no special treatment what so ever, absolute bare essentials only.

I've seen it happen to my sister who was always too lazy. But when the government cut it all back, she finally got off her backside and is loving it now. It is much kinder to do that opposed to keep pampering to their every need and demand.
 
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dejongj said:
You can encourage by reducing it to the bare minimum. No cleaning, no taxis, no special treatment what so ever, absolute bare essentials only.

I've seen it happen to my sister who was always too lazy. But when the government cut it all back, she finally got off her backside and is loving it now. It is much kinder to do that opposed to keep pampering to their every need and demand.
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What he said...
 
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