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i'm not considering doing this, but i just wondered what the legality is

if you go into a post office, pick up something decent, wrap it up, then take it to the counter and post it.. are you technically shop lifting? or is the postman shoplifting when he takes it out of the shop?
 
What makes you think it will ever leave the post office Gary?
 
You're the one who is shoplifting, as you are the one intentionally setting out to deprive the shop of the money....I would assume...

On a similar "not that I'm considering doing this" note....

If a punter has sex with a prostitute and doesn't pay is it rape...




...or obtaining services by deception? :shrug:
 
Both interesting points!

On the first, if, let's assume, the shoplifted item did get shipped, would the Queen be classed as a criminal? After all, everything in transit via RM technically belongs to the queen and as a result, she would be in possession of stolen property.

:shrug:
 
Gary said:
i'm not considering doing this, but i just wondered what the legality is

if you go into a post office, pick up something decent, wrap it up, then take it to the counter and post it.. are you technically shop lifting? or is the postman shoplifting when he takes it out of the shop?
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are you hoping they start selling 5d mkII's in the post office. id try it!!
 
I used to have a guy that worked for me who would package up Power Tools and send them out each night on Securicor to his m8's house, this had been happening for a while before i found him out, when i notified the Police they didnt want me to talk to him about it as they wanted to watch him so that they could catch him an the handler.

This carried on for a few week until i didnt want to wait any longer so i confronted him, he then own up and had to go to court he then ended up being fined and had to do CS.
 
Woodsy said:
Both interesting points!

On the first, if, let's assume, the shoplifted item did get shipped, would the Queen be classed as a criminal? After all, everything in transit via RM technically belongs to the queen and as a result, she would be in possession of stolen property.

:shrug:
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thats only if you are posting a swan :) :)
 
as far as i am aware you can legal take something but the minitue you walk out the doors it becomes shop lifting if you watch tv programmes they always catch them outside as inside they can not prove they was actually stealing it
but as for sending it is a hard one but i would say it was shoplifting by the person who packed it the postman would not get done as he will not know what has happend several hours ago
 
"A person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it" so you're nicked! No ifs and buts about it.

Shoplifting isn't a crime as such, and no-one is ever charged with it. It's just a description of a type of theft, not a legal term. Hijacking/carjacking is much the same, the crime is robbery.

Staff don't actually have to wait until you pass the POS, or leave a store, to apprehend you for "shoplifting", because you're not breaking the law by putting something in your pocket while you browse, but it makes it easier to prove. That's why some stores also ask the "shoplifter" if they've "forgotten to pay" for anything, before they arrest him/her. People can forget, and it solves the problem, but it also strengthens the evidence if they deny it and are still found in possession of the goods.
 
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MartynK said:
"A person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it" so you're nicked! No ifs and buts about it.

Shoplifting isn't a crime as such, and no-one is ever charged with it. It's just a description of a type of theft, not a legal term. Hijacking/carjacking is much the same, the crime is robbery.

Staff don't actually have to wait until you pass the POS, or leave a store, to apprehend you for "shoplifting", because you're not breaking the law by putting something in your pocket while you browse, and it just makes it easier to prove. That's why some stores also ask the "shoplifter" if they've "forgotten to pay" for anything, before they arrest him/her. People can forget, and it solves the problem, but it also strengthens the evidence if they deny it and are still found in possession of the goods.
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Well that cleared that one up then! :thumbs:
 
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