Shooting Raw/jpeg...help

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Advice please:It has been suggested to me (not on this forum) that when taking photographs I would be advised to set my D80 to shoot the image in both 'raw & jpeg'

I realise that raw offers for better image editing but would like your suggestions as to the best way to proceed?

Thank you
digipix
 
No point in shooting jpeg as well. Just shoot RAW.
 
Raw & Jpeg, is that the setting were it is just one file combined with both. I would suggest to use raw as it has better editing as you are changing the data from the sensor rather than a processed (from the data by the camera itself) jpg image. RAW is better for controlling light ect ect.
 
The great RAW v JPG debate rages on, but basically, it depends on the size of your card and how much editing you want to do afterwards.

RAW - captures maximum amount of detail, with no loss due to the camera compressing it, therefore you have maximum post processing options. Against is size, a RAW file will take up more card space, although cards are not massively expensive. Needs software to convert it to a format your computer can read.

JPG - many more to a memory card, but camera will decide on what bits of detail to remove in order to compress...however, unless you plan major edits, most people find shooting in jpgs is fine fo rmost pictures.


Shooting in both - I know some people swear by it, but personally I never see the point of wasting card space like that....though I am sure someone will tell us why its such a good idea ;)
 
A good suggestion if you are shooting weddings or other massively important jobs because it'll automatically back up your images if it all goes Pete Tong - but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise (well, unless you have loads of memory & want duplicates of every image) I just use RAW normally :thumbs:

Edit: LL types faster than I do (either that or she started sooner :lol:)
 
moomike said:
A good suggestion if you are shooting weddings or other massively important jobs because it'll automatically back up your images if it all goes Pete Tong - but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise (well, unless you have loads of memory & want duplicates of every image) I just use RAW normally :thumbs:

Edit: LL types faster than I do (either that or she started sooner :lol:)
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you process better than I do, but one day I will catch up :p:lol:
 
moomike said:
A good suggestion if you are shooting weddings or other massively important jobs because it'll automatically back up your images if it all goes Pete Tong - but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise (well, unless you have loads of memory & want duplicates of every image) I just use RAW normally :thumbs:
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Backup is one application of shooting RAW+JPG. Another one is speed: RAW files need editing and conversion before they can be shown to others, i.o.w. TIME (often days or longer). The JPGs of that same session can be shown almost instantly.
 
W.Smith said:
Backup is one application of shooting RAW+JPG. Another one is speed: RAW files need editing and conversion before they can be shown to others, i.o.w. TIME (often days or longer). The JPGs of that same session can be shown almost instantly.
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Good point,well made!
thanks
digipix (still learning)
 
I shoot both - partly as I am not too confident that i will get the exposure right (the subject matter is another thing entirely - always rubbish in my case..) and as my pc is pretty old and slow, I can see the jpegs right away, so look at them, and then delete all the RAW images before they have opened if the jpegs are ok !
I am taking lots of black and white at present, and the jpegs are in B/W but the RAW's are in colour - it is good to see them both side by side at times..
As for storage space - I rarely take loads of pictures, so it is not an issue for me !
If you don't find yourself running out of space on your cards, then take both and see if it is of any use to you..!

Steve (also still learning, but not fast enough..!)
 
just seems a waste of space to save in both formats.

Everyone else as said most of what I was going to say, in the pros and cons for jpeg and raw.

To me it depends on what you are shooting. If you are working in a commercial environment when you won't have a chance to edit the images, and printing is done straight away, theres no real point in shooting in raw.

If you have the time to edit the raw files, then shoot in raw. Why loose quality when you don't have

digipix before every shoot ask yourself what the photos are for and then choose the format that best suits that occasion
 
But as space is pretty cheap, why not take both, unless, as you say, there is not time to edit the images..?
Should you loose a shot due to bad metering or whatever, the back-up of a RAW image could save it, and it is not an expense, given the price of memory cards these days, is it ?
 
I shoot both at my equine events.

I set my D200 to take a small Jpeg and when it comes to workflow at the end of the day I simply upload the jpeg (having quickly run an action for levels etc) for viewing on the net. Any purchases of my shots I then go to the RAW and do the edits and Roberts your fathers brother.

It only reduces the capacity of my card by a little bit but the
speed of my workflow is now much faster.

Cheers,

Bob
 
Has has been mentioned, there is a basic Jpeg embedded in the Nikon Raw files (don't know about other manufacturers Raw files :shrug:), there is a handy free utility which can extract the Jpeg as a separate file. :) It is called Preview Extractor, and it can be found here.

You get the benefit of saving space by shooting Raw only, but you can also extract the Jpegs to quickly review your pictures and so choose which to edit further. Also, on the few times that the Raw file was has been corrupted, (which can happen to any file) I've been able to extract the Jpeg from the corrupted file. :)

Despite what the website says, the software also works with the D80. :)
 
redhed17 said:
Has has been mentioned, there is a basic Jpeg embedded in the Nikon Raw files (don't know about other manufacturers Raw files :shrug:), there is a handy free utility which can extract the Jpeg as a separate file. :) It is called Preview Extractor, and it can be found here.

You get the benefit of saving space by shooting Raw only, but you can also extract the Jpegs to quickly review your pictures and so choose which to edit further. Also, on the few times that the Raw file was has been corrupted, (which can happen to any file) I've been able to extract the Jpeg from the corrupted file. :)

Despite what the website says, the software also works with the D80. :)
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Thanks for the info!
digipix
 
Slapo said:
Er... every NEF has a basic quality full resolution jpeg embedded in them, you can extract those with e.g. Preview Extractor :)

I use raw all the time anyway :P
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:eek: now I didnt know that!! You learn something everyday...off to download that software :D


edit: bloody hell that fast too!! For wedding snappers and those that need a quick preview before serious edits on the RAW files, that free software is worth having. It just did an entire folder of some 250 raw files in about 2 minutes. Thanks Redhead, thats worth knowing about and having. :thumbs:
 
OK, If we edit our images in raw, we then if posting on a website need to convert the final image back to jpeg.If someone wished to purchase the image from you would they not wish to have the original raw file to work on.(supposition on my part,just trying to work it through in my mind)

digipix
 
Exactly, Lady L.
The photog keeps the RAWs and disseminates only JPGs, BMPs, or GIFs derived from it. Or TIFFs if it's for printing (mags and brochures, etc.).
 
Perhaps you might want to know that IrfanView can use those embedded jpegs instead of the actual nefs for viewing, which makes it very fast for previews and you don't need to use Preview Extractor. It's faster than ViewNX, which also seems to be using them.
Unfortunately, IrfanView is only free for non-commercial use, but the fee for commercial use isn't too high and if it saves you some time then...
 
Shoot RAW unless you really need to do otherwise - the RAW+JPEG facility is useful for Press Phots who wi-fi their images straight to the picture desk at sporting or other news events. Otherwise it just uses up disk space - yes space is cheap, but if you run short and have a limited supply of cards...
I use Nikon Transfer to import the images (using that to embed a basic File Info caption into the RAW/NEF file itself, rather than as a sidecar file as with Photoshop) and Nikon View to preview my images and PS3 to edit everything. Nikon View has a browser that brings up the embedded JPEG from the RAW file and I use that to scroll through and hit 'Edit' whenever I get to a good one (few and far between, sadly...lol).
 
Arkady said:
Shoot RAW unless you really need to do otherwise - the RAW+JPEG facility is useful for Press Phots who wi-fi their images straight to the picture desk at sporting or other news events. Otherwise it just uses up disk space - yes space is cheap, but if you run short and have a limited supply of cards...
I use Nikon Transfer to import the images (using that to embed a basic File Info caption into the RAW/NEF file itself, rather than as a sidecar file as with Photoshop) and Nikon View to preview my images and PS3 to edit everything. Nikon View has a browser that brings up the embedded JPEG from the RAW file and I use that to scroll through and hit 'Edit' whenever I get to a good one (few and far between, sadly...lol).
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thanks for the info, as aim just starting to download/edit/file
wondering best systems to use in terms of me not having much experience.

digipix (good luck)
 
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