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has anyone used a courier to ship lithium batteries with a charger on their own..?

Hermes quote ''Batteries (such as lithium batteries) – Unless included with the equipment they power ''
 
I have shipped just batteries using collectplus, shipped one on Tuesday.
Think you can still ship them with Royal mail if its connected to the charger and pins are sealed.
 
nandbytes said:
I have shipped just batteries using collectplus, shipped one on Tuesday.
Think you can still ship them with Royal mail if its connected to the charger and pins are sealed.
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Royal mails rules are with an electrical device but a limited quantity (see their rules for info). Whether ‘an electrical device’ means a charger isn’t clear.

I had heard some say collect plus can courier batteries but they are actually on their prohibited list:

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I have several Nikon batteries but I can’t sell them as I can’t find any couriers that will take batteries. It’s all down to airline cargo rules as a lot of post even within the UK can still go by air.
 
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nandbytes said:
I have shipped just batteries using collectplus, shipped one on Tuesday.
Think you can still ship them with Royal mail if its connected to the charger and pins are sealed.
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thanks -- I do NOT trust RM. I copied their guidelines EXACTLY to ship an air pistol to England, X-rayed at GLA and sent to Ireland as a 'suspicious object for inspection'
Guess what - Ireland bans air pistols so it was destroyed-- i'm out £100 with no recall.

thanks I'll try collectplus
 
rob-nikon said:
Royal mails rules are with an electrical device but a limited quantity (see their rules for info). Whether ‘an electrical device’ means a charger isn’t clear.
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cheers .. but I HATE RM
 
Yardbent said:
thanks -- I do NOT trust RM. I copied their guidelines EXACTLY to ship an air pistol to England, X-rayed at GLA and sent to Ireland as a 'suspicious object for inspection'
Guess what - Ireland bans air pistols so it was destroyed-- i'm out £100 with no recall.

thanks I'll try collectplus
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I won’t be surprised if other couriers would do exactly the same. It would be the same if you sent batteries when you aren’t supposed to if they are on the prohibited items list. They would be destroyed rather than sent back to you.
 
I had an online chat with Collect Plus some time ago. This is a copy of it:

Me: Can you please tell me if I am allowed to send two used Li-ion camera batteries and a camera battery charger (all in original packaging) to Northern Ireland using Collect Plus. Many thanks for your help.

Reply: As long as the batteries are packaged correctly, ie well wrapped and packaged, and that they have a warning sticker on the outside of the packaging to show that the parcel contains batteries then it will be ok to send them.

It's worth checking with them again to make sure the rules haven't changed. I've used them many times when sending batteries.
 
Akaik you can ship batteries with less than 30% charge once they are properly sealed [in battery cases or in battery bags] It is fine to ship a battery in the device it is intended for too, again once drained below 30%
 
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Al1944 said:
I had an online chat with Collect Plus some time ago. This is a copy of it:

Me: Can you please tell me if I am allowed to send two used Li-ion camera batteries and a camera battery charger (all in original packaging) to Northern Ireland using Collect Plus. Many thanks for your help.

Reply: As long as the batteries are packaged correctly, ie well wrapped and packaged, and that they have a warning sticker on the outside of the packaging to show that the parcel contains batteries then it will be ok to send them.

It's worth checking with them again to make sure the rules haven't changed. I've used them many times when sending batteries.
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It would definitely worth checking with them as terms and conditions say:

Articles not carried
  1. We shall not be required or caused to carry or convey anything if such carriage or conveyance would be unlawful.
  2. We shall not carry gases, pyrotechnics, arms and ammunition or corrosive, toxic, flammable, explosive, oxidising or radioactive materials or any other noxious, dangerous or hazardous goods or goods likely to cause damage. Neither shall we carry human remains, including funerary items such as urns and ashes or animal remains including taxidermy or ashes.
  3. We shall not, without specific written agreement, carry works of art, artwork, musical instruments, ceramics, deeds, tender documents, documents of every kind including passports, stamps, securities, vouchers, money, prescribed drugs, precious metals, livestock, liquids, foodstuffs, perishable goods, glass, bullion, coins, precious stones, fossils, stoneware, resin items, amber, composites, valuable jewellery, valuable antiques or plants or plant seeds or derivatives
Their T&Cs are a bit too open. RMs prohibited and restricted items list is pretty clear from the information they give you.
 
rob-nikon said:
Royal mails rules are with an electrical device but a limited quantity (see their rules for info). Whether ‘an electrical device’ means a charger isn’t clear.

I had heard some say collect plus can courier batteries but they are actually on their prohibited list:

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I have several Nikon batteries but I can’t sell them as I can’t find any couriers that will take batteries. It’s all down to airline cargo rules as a lot of post even within the UK can still go by air.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well I posted one on Tuesday and it was delivered today.
I previously sent batteries using them to a forum and also received batteries via. them from a forum member.

I sent batteries to a forum member using RM and they destroyed it plus sent me a letter saying why they did what they did.

I think worst case scenario is they destroy the batteries you send. So be ready to refund your customer.
 
Yardbent said:
cheers .. but I HATE RM
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Apart from being annoying about batteries, I actually find them to be the most reliable of the bunch. RMSD IMO is the best tracked service of the lot I have used.

Yardbent said:
thanks -- I do NOT trust RM. I copied their guidelines EXACTLY to ship an air pistol to England, X-rayed at GLA and sent to Ireland as a 'suspicious object for inspection'
Guess what - Ireland bans air pistols so it was destroyed-- i'm out £100 with no recall.

thanks I'll try collectplus
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I posted batteries using Royal mail to NI and they destroyed them. As much as didn't like what happened its really on us for not following the rules and sending a banned item tbh. banned items are always destroyed.
 
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nandbytes said:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well I posted one on Tuesday and it was delivered today.
I previously sent batteries using them to a forum and also received batteries via. them from a forum member.

I sent batteries to a forum member using RM and they destroyed it plus sent me a letter saying why they did what they did.

I think worst case scenario is they destroy the batteries you send. So be ready to refund your customer.
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Worst case is it causes a plane crash. The couriers are complying with the ICAO/IATA regulations governing the shipping of Lithium batteries. It’s not worth the risk sending them when you know you shouldn’t and have seen the videos of them burning.
 
rob-nikon said:
Worst case is it causes a plane crash. The couriers are complying with the ICAO/IATA regulations governing the shipping of Lithium batteries. It’s not worth the risk sending them when you know you shouldn’t and have seen the videos of them burning.
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Do you not carry any lithium batteries with you on the plane then?
when stored and protected properly they don't down up.

besides not suggesting you ship it overseas. Just within the country.
 
I think that the IATA rules refer to batteries in the cargo hold. I believe that most airlines have restrictions which state that they must be carried in the passenger cabin and contained within the item there are used with.
 
Earley Man said:
I think that the IATA rules refer to batteries in the cargo hold. I believe that most airlines have restrictions which state that they must be carried in the passenger cabin and contained within the item there are used with.
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I know they do but not all batteries will be contained within the devices as people will be carrying spares. I actually contain mine and have pins of my batteries sealed. But I know most people won't have done that.
 
Try DPD
 
nandbytes said:
Do you not carry any lithium batteries with you on the plane then?
when stored and protected properly they don't down up.

besides not suggesting you ship it overseas. Just within the country.
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Even within the UK some post goes by air (hence RM not being able to meet special Delivery guarantees at present due to the lack of flights). Taking them as hand luggage on a plane as a passenger is totally different to a parcel that’s not been properly packed or protected from damage. The rules aren’t made by RM or other couriers. Sadly everyone won’t package them safely or as well as others do they apply a blanket ban across the board.
 
rob-nikon said:
Even within the UK some post goes by air (hence RM not being able to meet special Delivery guarantees at present due to the lack of flights). Taking them as hand luggage on a plane as a passenger is totally different to a parcel that’s not been properly packed or protected from damage. The rules aren’t made by RM or other couriers. Sadly everyone won’t package them safely or as well as others do they apply a blanket ban across the board.
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They are meeting special delivery gaurentees to just that the time is extended till later in the day rather than the standard 1pm.
In fact in my experience RMSD is the only service running with good reliability.

I understand the blanket ban and I am with you on it. Just saying in your case you can still sell and send your batteries via. Other courier with no planes falling out of the sky.
 
the black fox said:
Try DPD
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Unfortunately another who have batteries on their prohibited list

https://www.dpdlocal-online.co.uk/prohibited-items

nandbytes said:
They are meeting special delivery gaurentees to just that the time is extended till later in the day rather than the standard 1pm.
In fact in my experience RMSD is the only service running with good reliability.

I understand the blanket ban and I am with you on it. Just saying in your case you can still sell and send your batteries via. Other courier with no planes falling out of the sky.
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If you know any couriers that will officially take them I'd love to know. So far every courier I've looked at has them on their prohibited list as they may send some parcels by air so they impose a blanket ban. You can send them and not tell them what's in the parcel but its not really the right thing to do when you know you shouldn't send them on their own (I have several spare batteries now the camera is gone).
 
rob-nikon said:
Unfortunately another who have batteries on their prohibited list

https://www.dpdlocal-online.co.uk/prohibited-items


If you know any couriers that will officially take them I'd love to know. So far every courier I've looked at has them on their prohibited list as they may send some parcels by air so they impose a blanket ban. You can send them and not tell them what's in the parcel but its not really the right thing to do when you know you shouldn't send them on their own (I have several spare batteries now the camera is gone).
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ex-pro batteries use them just had a delivery .. I think the main concern is if there going by air
 
You can post factory sealed batteries even with royal mail I believe. If you bought new ones they are classified as such.
 
superpippo said:
MPB sell used batteries.
Anyone know how they post them and with whom?
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I gather business sellers can set up specific accounts where they have greater freedom on posting. They will be expected to meet higher specific criteria regarding how they are packaged safely. Unlike private users they are unlikely to take shortcuts regarding packaging or posting rules. For general public postal companies need to take into account the lowest denominator regarding the public. Following rules isn't one of the general publics best skills.
 
the black fox said:
ex-pro batteries use them just had a delivery .. I think the main concern is if there going by air
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there are likely different rules for business sellers and the general public. Business sellers are more likely to follow the rules and package them the same every time. If you have 10 people (general public) you are likely to get 10 different ways of packaging them and all of varying quality hence the rules are different for businesses and the general public.
 
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