Sharpening software?

I seem to get adverts in my facebook feed for Photo AI , pro photographers endorsing the software, which is fine they need to make a living
The examples they show often aren’t very good unfortunately, one recent one of a cheetahs face the original one was better
nothing against their software just think that whoever does the adverts could show better before and after examples
Similar here. There are some big names, like a well-known Canon ambassador, who otherwise appears to know what he is talking about on his yt channel...
I don't mind them recommended products, decent products that they themselves are happy to use like Canon R5 II for example. However, I have an issue where the advert is for something you either don't use because they prefer a different product or would not even consider using.
I saw some application in the original 3 and did recommend it to people even though it never converted. This photoAI thing is just hard to recommend, this is like an early beta quality software
 
I had a recent email that included some before & after examples...that made the look oh so plastic!

If that is supposed the be a 'good' example of the output, I am not impressed:

PS I tried to copy them in here but that did not work ...will try again!


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IIRC there was some discussion on the Topaz community forum that the default settings are too strong and, as in many post processing programs, the user needs to 'take control' to get the best results.

PPS also PC Mag editors choice
There's nothing in that review that I can see about sharpening....... :(
 
There's nothing in that review that I can see about sharpening....... :(
There are 5 mentions of "Sharpen" in the article.... found by using 'Find in page' search function.
 
Ahh I see thanks , I was tempted but will stick with what I have :)
That is galling to not have received any (meaningful?) response.

AFAIK you cannot buy 'used Topaz' software. The original purchase is linked to the buyers email with a unique license number. Possibly, also when first registered the Topaz servers use the owners IP address or even a hash number based on the computer Identity???

I have a confession to make!:)

I again contacted Topaz directly about my problem file and they suggested I send it to them and they would have a look at it.

I tried Photo AI again and found that it did a really very good sharpening job on the file. I can't imagine what I was doing wrong the first time I tried it......

Now to see what Black Friday brings......
 
I have a confession to make!:)

I again contacted Topaz directly about my problem file and they suggested I send it to them and they would have a look at it.

I tried Photo AI again and found that it did a really very good sharpening job on the file. I can't imagine what I was doing wrong the first time I tried it......

Now to see what Black Friday brings......
A good outcome !

Was that with IIRC the most current version 3.3.0 ?

Did they advise/suggest specific settings in the sharpen tool? If so, what were the settings?

TIA:)
 
3.2.2

No, I played around with various settings and got a range of different results.
Looks like I will have given the most recent version a go and see how I get on with it :thinking:

PS the reason I asked about settings (suggested?) was on the Topaz community forum I saw various comments that the auto/default settings are too aggressive.
 
Looks like I will have given the most recent version a go and see how I get on with it :thinking:

PS the reason I asked about settings (suggested?) was on the Topaz community forum I saw various comments that the auto/default settings are too aggressive.

Under sharpen I'm offered various AI models to choose from (standard, lens blur, motion blur etc) and then a strength slider, The latter makes a lot of difference.
 
I bought both Topaz DeNoise AI, Sharpen AI at BF 2022, and also ON1 NoNoise AI. Returned the ON1 version within a month.

Half a year later I found out that Topaz had stopped the development of DeNoise and Sharpen, so I asked for a refund since I didn't want to buy a dead horse. I got the refund and stopped using the software. Both DeNoise and Sharpen was too slow anyway on my MacBook Pro from 2012, so I didn't mourn the loss.

Instead I bought the NoNoise AI once again from ON1 the following BF (2023) and later got a free update during the spring to the 2024 version. Got a new MacBook Pro M1 during Christmas 2023 that made a huge difference in speed and performance. NoNoise AI have both a denoise and a sharpen function built in, and as far as I can tell it works very well.

I believe that Topaz made a mistake when they killed the standalone apps DeNoise and Sharpen. I will continue to use ON1 NoNoise AI.
 
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I bought both Topaz DeNoise AI, Sharpen AI at BF 2022, and also ON1 NoNoise AI. Returned the ON1 version within a month.

Half a year later I found out that Topaz had stopped the development of DenNoise and Sharpen, so I asked for a refund since I didn't want to buy a dead horse. I got the refund and stopped using the software. Both DeNoise and Sharpen was too slow anyway on my MacBook Pro from 2012, so I didn't mourn the loss.

Instead I bought the NoNoise AI once again from ON1 the following BF (2023) and later got a free update during the spring to the 2024 version. Got a new MacBook Pro M1 during Christmas 2023 that made a huge difference in speed and performance. NoNoise AI have both a denoise and a sharpen function built in, and as far as I can tell it works very well.

I believe that Topaz made a mistake when the killed the standalone apps DeNoise and Sharpen. I will continue to use ON1 NoNoise AI.
Yes, it looks like Topaz are trying to maximise their profits rather than produce genuinely useful software that photographers can actually afford.

Lightroom+ Photoshop annual subscription @ the Black Friday price of £62.99 versus Topaz Black Friday price of £158. ($199.) No matter how good aspects of Photo AI are, it's a very limited piece of software.
 
Has anybody used Sharpener pro in the Nik Collection? The latter is genuinely on offer at the moment, so I've downloaded a trial.
I haven’t used it since during the era when Google used to own the Nik Collection, and that’s ages ago. Can’t remember what I thought about it’s performance or usability back then.
 
Yes, it looks like Topaz are trying to maximise their profits rather than produce genuinely useful software that photographers can actually afford.

Lightroom+ Photoshop annual subscription @ the Black Friday price of £62.99 versus Topaz Black Friday price of £158. ($199.) No matter how good aspects of Photo AI are, it's a very limited piece of software.
I feel the same way. I cannot blame any company for trying to stay profitable, but I would like their products to be demonstrably useful at the same time.

The 3 old apps definitely were uniquely useful, at least until Lightroom introduced Denoise functionality. That basically made Denoise AI and respective PhotoAI functionality redundant almost overnight. This was perhaps the main use of their software, at least as far as I am concerned.
Sharpen AI is still relevant today, but only when one truly messes up which I try to avoid as much as possible. So maybe less than 0.1% of my deliverables. It is nice to have because you never know just when you will misfocus or when these horrible edges from EF 16-35mm f/2.8 will make image look totally unusable (motion blur model for that btw.)
Gigapixel is similar story, just even less frequently used. Pretty much only really needed for printing very very large, or if client throws you some utter iphone junk to add to their presentation or design.

I certainly felt like the 3 could become one, particularly where you may want to do 2 or 3 tasks all at once. Now it seems like photoAI was trying to do just that. They however threw away their best models and started with pure junk. Even last update can't match the latest denoise or sharpen ai. Gigapixel was the only one that didn't degrade, but then they decided to put their latest models only to standalone app to milk it one last time (may sub is long expired on that). Even worse, they just run all tasks sequentially one-by one instead of a unified process. Their focus also seems to be also wondering to RAW processing, all the iphone crapshot recovery and all that - and it doesn't even work that great. If they truly wanted to be a sort of replacement of Lightroom they need a whole library system which is not getting done. It truly puzzles me where the software is headed and whether I have any use at all for it other than the old versions I own. Ligtroom on the other hand feels properly complete, and while they can always improve it, it is just an improvement not a game changer.

Video AI is their other endeavour, and it may be most important and successful one going forward. Same caveat may apply here: your footage probably needs to be either messed up or lacking in some significant way - for example low res, or low frame rate for intended use. It is quite expensive, very slow and requires monstrous GPU like 4090. Personally I just much prefer working cleanly. They may already have big clients from hollywood studios and TV stations trying to upscale crappy 1080p scans, or 720p footage to 4k-like content. This is what may just keep them afloat if they play it right.
 
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Well, the Topaz Photo AI Black friday offer was no offer at all, so I thought I'd try Luminar Neo. This is a fully featured programme although they base their publicity on the ease at which you can change the skies in your images. This has always been anathema to me but I swallowed my pride and signed up for a trial . When I worked out how to do it, I got a pretty good result on my trial image. However as a plug-in to Lightroom it just wouldn't work. So they asked me to go through a whole series of steps to send them windows logs which I just about managed to do (I think) and sent them off. Since then - nothing. Do these developers expect users to troubleshoot their software for them?
 
Well the Topaz Black Friday offer is no offer at all.

Photo AI is still $199 but you also get the dubious free offer of 800 Cloud credits which sound pretty useless to me.
Agree. Do they think we are stupid when they offer an offer that is no fair offer at all?
 
Agree. Do they think we are stupid when they offer an offer that is no fair offer at all?
I certainly feel very stupid over giving them money for photo ai. In 2 years I got no use out of it and I tried...
 
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