Shall I or not?>

I agree with all the comments so far. I have a 40d and I have found the more familiar I become with the intricacies of the 40d the better my photos get. So my advice would be as others have pointed out, really get to know your camera. go on a canon course if you need to and then (and only then) you will be in a position to evaluate your ability to do good photography. It is the photographers ability first an foremost that set the standard, and where equipment is concerned concentrate on good glass when you can afford it.
 
NorthernNikon said:
I have read your first post in this thread, and I disagree with it. There's enough significant differences between the handling of different systems for it to be worthwhile for all photographers to spend time using systems other than their own to ensure that they have the best system for them. IQ is not the be all and all, so while there may be very little difference between output of both cameras in the lab, in the field, the way a camera handles can make the difference between getting the shot at all and missing it.
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Ok, re-read what i put in the original post as i think you will find that was exactly what you have just said but not in so many words and was a reply to both the original post and the other post about "will i see an improvement in my pictures" :


MJ Stebbings said:
Pointless argument. Why ask us when its your own personal choice mate? If you prefer the Nikon camera THAT MUCH then get it, but i bet you will be hard pressed to tell the difference really. As stated, its the user and the lenses that will improve an image... so spend your cash on new glass!
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Read all the posts that OP put and then maybe my answer will make more sense
 
MJ Stebbings said:
Ok, re-read what i put in the original post as i think you will find that was exactly what you have just said but not in so many words and was a reply to both the original post and the other post about "will i see an improvement in my pictures"
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But it isn't, you said quite clearly that it's the user and the lenses which makes the difference i.e. not the body. While I wouldn't disagree at all in the importance of the skills of the photographer and the quality of the glass, the handling of the body is far more important than the majority of people acknowledge.

Until the OP has tried a D90 over a sustained period of time he will never know whether the switch will be worth it or not.
 
You're boring me now
 
f1charlie said:
I looked in the manual before replying - I can see scene modes but not scene recognition - which page?
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I have the D300 so cannot tell you which page, not that it will explain it, there is just a reference to metering using scene recognition, it does not expand on it, which is strange considering how much hype they give it in the sales blurb, and on their web page.

As I said it matters not, as it is not anything that you can access, its just part of the metering/ autofocus software in the camera.
 
MJ Stebbings said:
You're boring me now
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I'm terribly sorry, I mistakenly thought that this was thread was about given the OP the best advice rather than serving as your entertainment.
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NorthernNikon said:
I'm terribly sorry, I mistakenly thought that this was thread was about given the OP the best advice rather than serving as your entertainment.
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I'm bored of arguing with you on more then one thread and it turned from giving advice to more "i'm right, your wrong" argument and i decided to stop before turning the more then one thread in to 50 page novels
 
Martyn... said:
I have the D300 so cannot tell you which page, not that it will explain it, there is just a reference to metering using scene recognition, it does not expand on it, which is strange considering how much hype they give it in the sales blurb, and on their web page.

As I said it matters not, as it is not anything that you can access, its just part of the metering/ autofocus software in the camera.
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Thanks Martyn. I know I haven't read the manual as thoroughly as I should, but I was sure I hadn't seen that mentioned, so I did a search on the pdf version and I still can't find any mention of it.

As you say you can't access it, and as it is not a brand new feature, there is no need to add more words to the manual.
 
Ok Folks thanks for all your input on this and like you say I am going to try and borrow my friend camera for a few days and see how I get on with it.. To be honest I like my Canon 40D and it prob be silly to sell it along with it other stuff just for a few gimmick on the nikon..
 
rookies said:
Ok Folks thanks for all your input on this and like you say I am going to try and borrow my friend camera for a few days and see how I get on with it.. To be honest I like my Canon 40D and it prob be silly to sell it along with it other stuff just for a few gimmick on the nikon..
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:clap:
 
The reason to this as I have a

Canon 17 - 40 L Lens
Canon 50mm 1.4 Prime
Sigma 105 Macro
Canon 430EX II Flash.

So really a got a few nice gear there. What lens should I add to it next as i like something with IS but easy on pocket. Then it prob be best to get GOOD at taking Nice images Landscape etc once I reach the target and know how to take good images. UPGRADE 5DMkII That is then where I would see a big advantage.
 
I think the d90 is a better camera......
but like everyone has said if you cant take a good pic with the 40d
how will the d90 help you ?
 
If you mainly shoot landscapes then yes, it would be sound advice to get a 5dmkII
Invest in a tripod as i think you have a nice set up for landscapes.
If you are after a general lens then the Canon 17-85is lens is ok. Maybe the Canon 17-55is is also a good option too
 
Hmmm your 17-40 covers the wide angle aspect, why not look at a 24-70/105 for that bit more reach and a different perspective on your landscapes. Failing that as MJ said a good tripod will do a world of good for your landscapes as will a set of decent filters (Graduated ND`s, polarisers etc).
 
MarkEvan said:
Hmmm your 17-40 covers the wide angle aspect, why not look at a 24-70/105 for that bit more reach and a different perspective on your landscapes. Failing that as MJ said a good tripod will do a world of good for your landscapes as will a set of decent filters (Graduated ND`s, polarisers etc).
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Have already got a great Tripod I have a manfrotto 190Xpro and it a great tripod.

Am going to invest into a 24 - 105 L as I have handled the D90 and find it small I like the feel of my 40D and as suggested get my photo skills to top standard then a 5D be on my list. Am sticking to canon
 
rookies said:
Have already got a great Tripod I have a manfrotto 190Xpro and it a great tripod.

Am going to invest into a 24 - 105 L as I have handled the D90 and find it small I like the feel of my 40D and as suggested get my photo skills to top standard then a 5D be on my list. Am sticking to canon
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:thumbs::clap:
 
Am going to invest into a 24 - 105 L as I have handled the D90 and find it small I like the feel of my 40D and as suggested get my photo skills to top standard then a 5D be on my list. Am sticking to canon
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Good move, the 24-105 is a great lens good for landscapes and people.
 
Northern Nikon.... Why thanks, not
 
rookies said:
So really a got a few nice gear there. What lens should I add to it next as i like something with IS but easy on pocket. Then it prob be best to get GOOD at taking Nice images Landscape etc once I reach the target and know how to take good images. UPGRADE 5DMkII That is then where I would see a big advantage.
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IS is useless for landscapes normally - you'll be looking to use a tripod and down to about f11 with associated longer shutter speeds.

You'll see more of an advantage taking a few courses to improve your skill rather than upgrading your equipment
 
I think you should buy a D90.
Just for the hell of it. :p

But the simple fact that you wanted to buy a D90 because it has scene recognition says to me that you need to improve your knowledge of how to use your camera first!
 
rookies said:
Have already got a great Tripod I have a manfrotto 190Xpro and it a great tripod.

Am going to invest into a 24 - 105 L as I have handled the D90 and find it small I like the feel of my 40D and as suggested get my photo skills to top standard then a 5D be on my list. Am sticking to canon
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Well done that man!

Just a thought, did your mate try and encourage you over to Nikon, in the hope you would jump in with two feet, buy as much kit as you could, so he has a ready made source of borrowing stuff he doesnt have? :D
 
rookies said:
The Nikon seem to have some cool feature I believe such as scene reconginsation how ever it spelt etc. Also I been told the D90 is better camera and easy to use and easier to take picture with than the 40d
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My nikon doesnt do that, my brain does
 
andrewc said:
d90 is a bit newer and has a few gimmicky features. doesn't make it a better camera, and doesn't suddenly make the 40d a bad one. its still the photographer and the optics that count.
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I agree

Unfortunatally, part of the optics includes the thickness of the filter infront of the sensor. That accounts for the softness in most Canons, and the harshness and unforgiving nature of most KODAK's

On top of that, you need to consider the size, geometry and spacing of each pixel site compared to the resolving power of the lenses you want to use, allong with the tangental and sagital shell errors the lenses induce off axis. On top of that, you need to look at the way each lens you use introduces diffraction at different apetures, and how pixel site placement and spacing effects the subsequent result
 
Sounds like the OP needs a point and shoot to be honest!
 
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