Sell all your slr's

I recently bought a Sony a7iii as a backup and for video. The plan was to use my canon glass with the metabones adapter. I lasted two weeks with it. Took it back and got a 1dx mkii. The Sony was good, very good but unfortunately without spending thousands on native Sony lenses not good enough! I ended up spending a lot more than planned but my system works and that’s worth more to me than anything.

And this is the biggest problem if you want to move to Sony from Canon, the Canon lenses are not going to work like native Sony FE lenses.
However for some, selling up and going all native Sony FE is worth it.
 
I think EVF's are already better than OVF's in some ways, for example in low light I can see more detail through my EVF than I could with any traditional optical DSLR system and when using the magnified view I can see more detail in any lighting.
I've used EVFs in low light conditions and ended up temporarily losing my night-vision in one eye, which is an odd feeling when trying to move around at night. You can try closing the offending eye, but then you lose depth perception if your used to stereo vision. So pros and cons really, but I'd rather look at an LCD display screen on a camera in such conditions and preserve equal vision in both eyes.
 
I've used EVFs in low light conditions and ended up temporarily losing my night-vision in one eye, which is an odd feeling when trying to move around at night. You can try closing the offending eye, but then you lose depth perception if your used to stereo vision. So pros and cons really, but I'd rather look at an LCD display screen on a camera in such conditions and preserve equal vision in both eyes.

Yup the light in the eye is a killer in near darkness but if you want to see what you're pointing the camera at it's maybe a price worth paying. With a DSLR there's always less than eyesight vision and so less detail perception and in near darkness maybe there'll not be enough discernable detail to even frame the shot never mind see fine detail.
 
Yup the light in the eye is a killer in near darkness but if you want to see what you're pointing the camera at it's maybe a price worth paying. With a DSLR there's always less than eyesight vision and so less detail perception and in near darkness maybe there'll not be enough discernable detail to even frame the shot never mind see fine detail.

Just use live view.
 
Battery life, schmattery life...

How many people take 500 shots a day?
If you do, take another battery.

It's not as if DSLR users don't carry around a spare.
I carry a spare if I'm using an SLR, a mirrorless or a DSLR.
 
And this is the biggest problem if you want to move to Sony from Canon, the Canon lenses are not going to work like native Sony FE lenses.
However for some, selling up and going all native Sony FE is worth it.

Remember when Canon went from FD to EOS? I bet that was pretty expensive for people who wanted to stay with Canon.

It could happen again with the change to mirrorless....







But I doubt they'll do it :D
 
On the back screen? Arms length picture taking isn't for me, not with a compact and deffo not with DSLR or any larger camera :D

You're taking this shot in very dark conditions (seeing as you can't see anything through OVF) so it's going to be the exception rather than the norm. Likely to involve a tripod as well. LCD view finders can be used as well, but bulk things up!
 
Mirrorless still aren’t there yet. I nearly made the swap recently by ditching all my Nikon gear for the A7riii and there were a few deal breakers for me. Size, there wasn’t enough room between the grip and lens. Also balance was wrong when using in portrait mode with the grip, the weight was too one sided. And lastly as good as the EVF is (and it is very good) there’s still a hint of a lag when panning. And before anyone comments about not having the camera set up properly to reduce EVF lag there was a Sony rep on hand to set it up ;)

I’ve not tried the A9 to be fair, but that’s £4K and hardly going to appeal to the consumer ;)

I think mirrorless will take over, and probably soon. But I don’t think DSLRs will suddenly be obsolete, I think it will take time for them to phase out.
 
You're taking this shot in very dark conditions (seeing as you can't see anything through OVF) so it's going to be the exception rather than the norm. Likely to involve a tripod as well. LCD view finders can be used as well, but bulk things up!

Back screen shooting is always going to be second best for hand held shooting.
 
Mirrorless still aren’t there yet. I nearly made the swap recently by ditching all my Nikon gear for the A7riii and there were a few deal breakers for me. Size, there wasn’t enough room between the grip and lens. Also balance was wrong when using in portrait mode with the grip, the weight was too one sided. And lastly as good as the EVF is (and it is very good) there’s still a hint of a lag when panning. And before anyone comments about not having the camera set up properly to reduce EVF lag there was a Sony rep on hand to set it up ;)

I’ve not tried the A9 to be fair, but that’s £4K and hardly going to appeal to the consumer ;)

I think mirrorless will take over, and probably soon. But I don’t think DSLRs will suddenly be obsolete, I think it will take time for them to phase out.

The zero EVF blackout on the A9 is awesome, that's what I find really annoying on mirrorless in comparison to DSLR. The X-T2 is improved, but I'd love to no blackout at an affordable price!
 
... and there is no blackout when the mirror goes up and down?
Must be magic :)

My SLRs are still going fine. They didn't stop when digi came along.
 
Last edited:
Snip:
Remember when Canon went from FD to EOS? I bet that was pretty expensive for people who wanted to stay with Canon.
It depends how and when you changed... I kept my FD kit (an A1 and two T90s) until the late 90s before buying and trying a used EOS 600 and kit type EF USM zoom. Realising they'd got autofocus pretty much sorted I sold the T90s and FD lenses while they were still fetching reasonable money, then chopped the 600 kit in for an EOS-3 and 2 USM IS zooms. Expensive at the time? Not when you think of the money I saved on the 'in between' cameras and lenses that I didn't buy as 'step upgrades', preferring to go in one big leap once I was happy they'd got things sorted with the 'new' EOS/EF system. I suspect I'm not alone in waiting and watching when new systems come in?
 
Last edited:
I recently bought a Sony a7iii as a backup and for video. The plan was to use my canon glass with the metabones adapter. I lasted two weeks with it. Took it back and got a 1dx mkii. The Sony was good, very good but unfortunately without spending thousands on native Sony lenses not good enough! I ended up spending a lot more than planned but my system works and that’s worth more to me than anything.
was that Tony's 1DXii ? :)
 
To be fair the battery life debate has been ended basically with Sony's new FZ-100 battery on the A7riii/A7iii/A9 - lasts mostly as long as a DSLR, I certainly expect Fuji to follow suit eventually.

Nearly as long? I thought it was about 700 vs 1500 odd on an dslr.?
 
Nearly as long? I thought it was about 700 vs 1500 odd on an dslr.?

Real-life evidence suggests that the A7riii battery is lasting well over 1000 shots, depends on the DSLR I guess though, the newer Nikon's (D850) have shorter battery life than the previous models.

Not a huge gap now though and a spare battery would cover most folk for a day.
 
Real-life evidence suggests that the A7riii battery is lasting well over 1000 shots, depends on the DSLR I guess though, the newer Nikon's (D850) have shorter battery life than the previous models.

Not a huge gap now though and a spare battery would cover most folk for a day.
Where are you getting that info from? The D850 is rated to 1840 shots compared to 1200 on the D810 (y)
 
The slr system has been around for about 100 years it does what it says on box. You cannot improve on that system. Mirrorless is playing catch up and is not there yet. One day it will be but at what cost. 1st generation will be expensive but price will fall. But today’s mirrorless are not quite there.
 
As an X100F user, I can say its a brilliant camera, as was the T, and I do find myself taking it out more than my D750 as its so good, lighter etc...

BUT, while it has improved lots on the X100, it lags behind the D750 in a number of areas like AF (speed and accuracy), range, handling, general speed. SLRs are going nowhere fast.
 
I started off with mirrorless and then went to dslr for the faster (albeit less accurate) phase detection focusing.

Assuming that mirrorless has completely caught up with dslr (ok it hasn’t quite yet) but let’s say it has what advantages does it offer?

Slightly smaller overall size? Is that an advantage? I love an evf but I love an ovf and it’s mainly personal.
 
Where are you getting that info from? The D850 is rated to 1840 shots compared to 1200 on the D810 (y)

Get even more than that if you have the new EN-EL15a version of the battery.

So basically mirrorless battery life still sucks even with the newer versions.

Maybe not a big deal for some, but as an example had a wedding today and took just under 4k photos between the 2 of us so battery life is important to me anyway. Although I have an A7S II and an X100T so can see some of the advantages of mirrorless but not ready to switch just yet.
 
Last edited:
Get even more than that if you have the new EN-EL15a version of the battery.

So basically mirrorless battery life still sucks even with the newer versions.

Maybe not a big deal for some, but as an example had a wedding today and took just under 4k photos between the 2 of us so battery life is important to me anyway. Although I have an A7S II and an X100T so can see some of the advantages of mirrorless but not ready to switch just yet.
Thats really beyond silly now. Cameras with a power consuming evf Will always have a power battery life than ovf's but thats not the point. Whats important is if its enough to last you through Day.
 
Arguably the Nikon 1 range were decent mirrorless cameras albeit 1” rather than FF. Same for the newest Canon M albeit APS-C. Scale either up to FF and you get a half decent Mirrorless camera so long as (a) the handling is right and (b) lenses (and a lens roadmap) and the rest of the system is there.
The lenses are already here. That's why sony shooters use canon glass.
 
Tell you what, I'll give you £5 for them, and I'm robbing myself at that price! No one wants them now, see; I believe they're even charging people to get rid of them down at the local tip. That's the problem when news like that gets out, I'm a fool to myself I know, but I can't help being generous, it's a fault of mine. So there you go, a nice new fiver for the camera, card and reader, and you don't need to worry about getting stuck with them. Lovely jubbly! (y)
;)
LOLZ.

Interestingly enough CFast cards are now obsolete too.
They will be replaced by CFexpress, Circa 3 X as fast.
 
Get even more than that if you have the new EN-EL15a version of the battery.

So basically mirrorless battery life still sucks even with the newer versions.

Maybe not a big deal for some, but as an example had a wedding today and took just under 4k photos between the 2 of us so battery life is important to me anyway. Although I have an A7S II and an X100T so can see some of the advantages of mirrorless but not ready to switch just yet.

Not true, the Sony A9 can easily clock over 4000-8000 photos on a single battery.
https://www.cameralabs.com/sony-alpha-a9-review/

One battery ended up lasting me the entire day with the final shutter count reading just over 8000 images – see photo below. Not bad for a camera that composes electronically.

Sony_A9_battery_life-945x751.jpg


Summary....

Summary
cameralabs_highly_rec_350px.png
Sony's A9 is a supremely confident full-frame camera that successfully takes on established high-end DSLRs for pro sports and event photography. It'll accurately focus almost anywhere on the frame and shoots long bursts of 24 Megapixel images at up to 20fps in complete silence, without any vibrations, and with no viewfinder blackout either. The silence in particular is invaluable for shooting discreetly at events and weddings, but also opens up shots at quieter sports too. The handling is so assured, it's easy to forget the A9 additionally sports built-in stabilisation, decent 4k video, 1080p at 120fps, and effective Wifi with Bluetooth. Sony also used the A9 to debut better controls and a much improved battery that banishes issues with older models. Sure, it's not perfect: there's no Picture Profiles for video, the touchscreen is underused, there's no built-in intervalometer or bulb timers, and the use of SD cards with only one slot that exploits UHS-II is under-specced compared to pro DSLRs. But overall the A9 remains a very impressive camera that even a year after launch still feels revolutionary. Pro sports and event shooters should consider it very seriously.
 
Last edited:
Not true, the Sony A9 can easily clock over 4000-8000 photos on a single battery.
https://www.cameralabs.com/sony-alpha-a9-review/



Sony_A9_battery_life-945x751.jpg


Summary....

Hmmm! Well Sony's declared CIPA figure is 650 images per battery.

I find it hard to believe that if it was capable in real world use to achieve >10 times that CIPA figure that they would not be shouting about it.

It makes me wonder if the Cameralabs number is conflated with the 8000 count being the total taken in the whole review period & the battery life being good enough for a whole days shooting IMO that scenario is more like the true outcome!

Unless of course other reviewers consistently report the same.
 
Get even more than that if you have the new EN-EL15a version of the battery.

So basically mirrorless battery life still sucks even with the newer versions.

Maybe not a big deal for some, but as an example had a wedding today and took just under 4k photos between the 2 of us so battery life is important to me anyway. Although I have an A7S II and an X100T so can see some of the advantages of mirrorless but not ready to switch just yet.
1840 is the quoted figure with the EL-EN15a figure. However, more often than not you get quite a bit more than the quoted figure, especially if using continuous shooting.

Sony seem to have cracked battery life for mirrorless so it’s just a matter of time before the other manufacturers catch up.

Of course there are other inherent problems with mirrorless in that the on sensor phase detection can cause pinstripe artefacts under specific extreme conditions. I highly doubt that it will cause most users any problems in the real world though. In fact since it was pointed out the the A7iii seems to suffer from it the worst I haven’t seen one complaint from a user.
 
Back
Top