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Hi all,

Following on from my previous thread 'recommend me a prime' i need some advice regarding straps for my D5500.

Firstly, i will be using the camera over water, hence my need for something secure! (I know the ultimate responsibility is in my hands)

Im not very confident using the standard nikon strap as i have had one slip on my before. Also the standard neck strap has two adjustment areas where slipage may be possible.
Im not bothered if a new strap has no adjustment possibilites as long as it is secure and isnt excessively long. (I.e doesnt allow the camera to dangle too far down the chest)

My second question - Is it possible to attach more than one strap to a camera to aid my above issue?. Im guessing there is only one anchor point, but perhaps having a neck and wrist strap is an option?

Thoughts / recommendations please?

Thanks all,
 
I have just purchased the peak design slide for my d750. That attaches to one of the lugs and then connects to a tripod plate. Feels very sturdy and secure. Had a walk about with my 150-600 attached the other day. Wish I'd found this strap sooner. You can also connect it to the 2 normal fixing points if you wish
 
nick16 said:
Im not very confident using the standard nikon strap as i have had one slip on my before. Also the standard neck strap has two adjustment areas where slipage may be possible.
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Just put a couple of stitches through the strap at the adjustment zone. Simples.
 
Alastair said:
Just put a couple of stitches through the strap at the adjustment zone. Simples.
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That is an idea, im not sure how confident i will be with the solution longer term though!

kingo15 said:
I have just purchased the peak design slide for my d750. That attaches to one of the lugs and then connects to a tripod plate. Feels very sturdy and secure. Had a walk about with my 150-600 attached the other day. Wish I'd found this strap sooner. You can also connect it to the 2 normal fixing points if you wish
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This sounds more promising, because it will still free up one of the normal fixing points for a wrist strap. (maybe optech as above) have you tried to 'abuse' the strap to see if theres any slippage?
How are the anchor points (small round circles) - are they very secure?

Thanks
 
nick16 said:
That is an idea, im not sure how confident i will be with the solution longer term though!
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A couple of tight stitches secured by a knot and that strap isn't going anywhere. Doesn't have the same retail satisfaction as a new strap system though.
 
Alastair said:
A couple of tight stitches secured by a knot and that strap isn't going anywhere. Doesn't have the same retail satisfaction as a new strap system though.
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I know exactly what you mean! lol

The other option is to buy a second strap like the peak design above and then just have two neck straps.
Attach the peak design to a tripod style plate, and the original Nikon strap to the standard fixing points. This means that the photographers hands can be free should they need to assist with anything, whereas a wrist strap wouldn't enable this.
 
Or a simple split ring through the strap lug and a paracord break-away wrist strap?
 
The peak design is very strong, like Kingo, I've had a 150-600 lens with a larger body and grip than yours with no problems.
 
I have a blackrapid that i use with a 7d2 and a sigma 150-600c no probs at all
 
nick16 said:
That is an idea, im not sure how confident i will be with the solution longer term though!



This sounds more promising, because it will still free up one of the normal fixing points for a wrist strap. (maybe optech as above) have you tried to 'abuse' the strap to see if theres any slippage?
How are the anchor points (small round circles) - are they very secure?

Thanks
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Yep abused it before I went out.
I was a bit dubious about the plastic lugs. But had a good tug of war with them.

So I quite confident that my d750 with a grip and my 150-600 are going to be secure.
Plus it sits nicely when walking
 
kingo15 said:
Yep abused it before I went out.
I was a bit dubious about the plastic lugs. But had a good tug of war with them.

So I quite confident that my d750 with a grip and my 150-600 are going to be secure.
Plus it sits nicely when walking
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Thanks Kingo, can i ask you a question about the strap? - Is it possible to attach it solely to the base of the camera (tripod mount) so it leaves the regular side fixing points free?
That way i can use two straps and have a redundant system.
 
I use a black rapid strap which screws into the base of the camera (where the tripod plate would normally go) and then I also have one of these which is connected to the normal bit where you'd expect to put the strap : https://optechusa.com/slr-wrist-strap.html

Yes, it's a pain if you want to use the tripod, but well worth it if you're worried about dropping the camera in water.
 
HopefulM said:
I use a black rapid strap which screws into the base of the camera (where the tripod plate would normally go) and then I also have one of these which is connected to the normal bit where you'd expect to put the strap : https://optechusa.com/slr-wrist-strap.html

Yes, it's a pain if you want to use the tripod, but well worth it if you're worried about dropping the camera in water.
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Yeah thats is one of my options, i will have a tripod however. Thats why the Peak Design is good as it has the Arca-swiss mount compatibility. Also it would mean i can keep my original strap and just buy the one thing.

I would prefer not to have wrist strap as arms are often near the water level and the photographer may need their hands free to assist with the subject matter. (fish)
It is a last resort option though as it offers more security than just one neck strap!

thanks for your suggestions!
 
nick16 said:
Thanks Kingo, can i ask you a question about the strap? - Is it possible to attach it solely to the base of the camera (tripod mount) so it leaves the regular side fixing points free?
That way i can use two straps and have a redundant system.
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I'll have a look later. But I don't think that would work that well. What you could do is put 2 tabs on the standard fixing points and one on the Base plate. So you could swap from Base plate to standard style strap if wanted to in seconds
 
I bought the Peak Design Slide last year. Love the way the system works and it is the most comfortable strap I have ever used, and I have tried a lot of straps. :)
Edited to add, you can buy extra connectors so the strap can be used between different cameras. They also have a wrist strap than connects the same way if you want extra security.

Cheers
Kath
 
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nick16 said:
Im not very confident using the standard nikon strap as i have had one slip on my before. Also the standard neck strap has two adjustment areas where slipage may be possible.
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The standard method of securing a camera strap w/ the sliding buckle is *not* actually the most secure way. The most secure way to lace that type of buckle is by back-lacing, the way it is done w/ a climbing harness.

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Peak Design slide all the way
 
kingo15 said:
I'll have a look later. But I don't think that would work that well. What you could do is put 2 tabs on the standard fixing points and one on the Base plate. So you could swap from Base plate to standard style strap if wanted to in seconds
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Just like he says you get 4 anchor link so put 1 on each lug and 1 on tripod mount... You can use it as Sling Strap or a Neck strap then that the beauty of this strap..
 
Im not disagreeing that its a bad strap, i just need to have them attached to different points so if a strap fails, the other will hold it.

For example - in the below photo. The red arrows are the standard attachments for my Nikon strap. And the blue arrows would be the Peak Design strap. So both of the Peak Design strap ends are anchored in the same place.

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The other option is to add an extra anchor link to the points where the red arrows show, and attach the Peak Design there. so you basically have a double neck strap in the conventional manner.
 
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If your going to worry like that then what if they both fail. How far do you go.
How many times do you back a hard drive to different drives incase they fail and you lose everything.
I know it's over the top possibly but I'm sure peak design have stress tested beyond anything we can to make sure it's as safe as can be.
 
Its not the snapping, its the slippage. I have had a nikon strap slip on me fairly recently. luckily i had hold of the camera so it didnt fall.
I would only be as an insurance, especially as i may not be the only one using the camera.

I guess i have answered my own question, i buy the strap and either use option A or B from above.
 
The peak design comes with 4 attachments, so you can use it like the original strap or the sling way.
I've used many a strap for camera and binocular and this is by far the best.
I use the op-tech neoprene wrist strap as it's the comfiest, the peak design one isn't for me.

You can buy the peak attachments separately, to add to any other bodies.
 
I've been looking at both the peak design and the black rapid 'womens' strap. The peak design don't take women's boobs into account though!

I couldn't wear a regular shaped strap across my chest because I feel conscious that one boob is squashed and lower down LoL or the strap makes one point out more than the other and it's uncomfortable and embarrassing. I'm suffering with my neck so I am really trying to find one that suits what I want.
I prefer the way the peak design connects for tripod mounting because I don't want to be unclipping a strap and fiddling about with a strapless camera while I get my plate on and get it onto my tripod (usually on a beach!)
The only other way would be to use the collar on my 300mm and have the tripod plate on the foot but still will have the issue when shooting a landscape with my smaller lenses.

What a hassle finding a strap!
 
I know what you mean. Perhaps consider mounting the peak design as a neck strap from the standard fixing points. That still leaves the tripod mount free, or attach the strap to the tripod mount but then it wont sit right on your chest. Boobs or no boobs.
 
munchycarrot said:
I've been looking at both the peak design and the black rapid 'womens' strap. The peak design don't take women's boobs into account though!

I couldn't wear a regular shaped strap across my chest because I feel conscious that one boob is squashed and lower down LoL or the strap makes one point out more than the other and it's uncomfortable and embarrassing. I'm suffering with my neck so I am really trying to find one that suits what I want.
I prefer the way the peak design connects for tripod mounting because I don't want to be unclipping a strap and fiddling about with a strapless camera while I get my plate on and get it onto my tripod (usually on a beach!)
The only other way would be to use the collar on my 300mm and have the tripod plate on the foot but still will have the issue when shooting a landscape with my smaller lenses.

What a hassle finding a strap!
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Another option is to have an arca Swiss clamp attached to the black rapid screw in connector. It allows quick changing, and if you worry about it working loose then add a safety tether between the strap and camera lug. I often use the black rapid like this.

Black rapid now do an arca Swiss compatible plate too. There is also the fusion photo arca Swiss plate that allows quick changing between strap and tripod.
 
nick16 said:
I know what you mean. Perhaps consider mounting the peak design as a neck strap from the standard fixing points. That still leaves the tripod mount free, or attach the strap to the tripod mount but then it wont sit right on your chest. Boobs or no boobs.
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Thanks :)

The problem is the peak design is a 'straight across the chest, fine for men' strap so I like the way theirs attach but don't like the strap. Black rapid have a nice women's round the boob problem free strap but mount awkward... I need a bit of both

Also, I want to avoid a neck strap, I have 3 rotten discs so can be painful with anything hanging round my neck and not sure the slide would work right with side attaching. Shame I can't try them all out
 
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rob-nikon said:
Another option is to have an arca Swiss clamp attached to the black rapid screw in connector. It allows quick changing, and if you worry about it working loose then add a safety tether between the strap and camera lug. I often use the black rapid like this.

Black rapid now do an arca Swiss compatible plate too. There is also the fusion photo arca Swiss plate that allows quick changing between strap and tripod.
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I will have a look at the arca Swiss compatible plate and see if it will work with my Mefoto road trip tripod, thanks (y)
 
Can't find the BR women's strap anywhere for sale apart from one in America on eBay which is floral (can't use vomit smiley on the app) and silly shipping

Back to the drawing board I think
 
rob-nikon said:
Another option is to have an arca Swiss clamp attached to the black rapid screw in connector. It allows quick changing, and if you worry about it working loose then add a safety tether between the strap and camera lug. I often use the black rapid like this.

Black rapid now do an arca Swiss compatible plate too. There is also the fusion photo arca Swiss plate that allows quick changing between strap and tripod.
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:agree:

I too had this issue and fixed it with an arca clamp (about 7£ from amazon) I also added an optech clip as a safety tether between one of the normal strap mounts and the swivel on the Black rapid, that way if anything happened with the clamp my camera wouldn't go crashing to the floor
 
These straps, slings and failsafes seem to get increasingly complicated and overkill.
Has anyone actually had a traditional strap fail or even heard of it happening?

Some of these designs look more suitable for rock climbing, probably cheaper to insure your gear for accidental damage than pay out on these carrying harnesses
 
tijuana taxi said:
These straps, slings and failsafes seem to get increasingly complicated and overkill.
Has anyone actually had a traditional strap fail or even heard of it happening?

Some of these designs look more suitable for rock climbing, probably cheaper to insure your gear for accidental damage than pay out on these carrying harnesses
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Nope I haven't, however due to a neck and shoulder injury, carrying a couple of kilos of camera and lens on a normal strap around my neck or over my shoulder for any length of time leaves me in a pain. This is why I now use a spider holster. Can comfortably carry a gripped 5d3 with 120-300 sport all day now
 
tijuana taxi said:
These straps, slings and failsafes seem to get increasingly complicated and overkill.
Has anyone actually had a traditional strap fail or even heard of it happening?

Some of these designs look more suitable for rock climbing, probably cheaper to insure your gear for accidental damage than pay out on these carrying harnesses
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No I haven't.

But when your carrying a heavy lens it's just more comfortable and sits in a better position imho.

I've used my peak slide all weekend and I must say I wish I'd found it sooner, especially when out walking the dogs it's so much easier well worth the 50 quid I feel.
 
Yes i have had the standard nikon strap slip on me and had i not been holding the camera against my chest at the time, it would be broken on the floor.
It would be very rare for a strap to actually snap, but the adjusters and fixings can work loose.

When you are using it over water for 2 weeks, you only get one chance.
 
Box Brownie said:
Hi Stef

Looks like these guys have at least one ladies pattern BR

https://www.calphoto.co.uk/product/...ing/999-872A?gclid=CJ2hnveX-9ECFYO87Qod2TgFPg

Looking on smartphone so searching not as simple, so perhaps more choices available if the above not 100% to taste.
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Wow, thanks! At least I can search for the 'kick' now and looks like Wilkinsons have stock that isn't pink lol so all is not lost. So now I just need to figure out if the alternative fastener fits my tripod plate :)

http://www.wilkinson.co.uk/blackrapid-kick-sling-camera-strap/
 
rob-nikon said:
Another option is to have an arca Swiss clamp attached to the black rapid screw in connector. It allows quick changing, and if you worry about it working loose then add a safety tether between the strap and camera lug. I often use the black rapid like this.

Black rapid now do an arca Swiss compatible plate too. There is also the fusion photo arca Swiss plate that allows quick changing between strap and tripod.
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ChrisHeathcote said:
:agree:

I too had this issue and fixed it with an arca clamp (about 7£ from amazon) I also added an optech clip as a safety tether between one of the normal strap mounts and the swivel on the Black rapid, that way if anything happened with the clamp my camera wouldn't go crashing to the floor
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I use a BR strap with my 5D3 and lenses, on the body I have an L plate and on the bigger zoom an Arca Swiss plate. The BR I have attached an Arca Swiss clamp so can connect as appropriate to either lens foot or body. I also use the BR tether for peace of mind :)

FWIW the BR has been great, the only foible/gripe is that sometimes depending on the clothing I wear the sling slide action pulls the strap round but not a biggie.

The other gripe I took up with BR was that the tether is intended IMO only for Nikon style body lugs not Canon, the answers I received left me a tad disappointed........... I may yet replace the tether with an OpTech style one but I will have to cut the BR one off of the Canon lug to avoid further scratches to the lug point.
 
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