Second flash advice and 622n help

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I have an sb700 and am happily enjoying using off camera flash with my yn622N - tremendous fun experimenting with my d7K

I would like to add a second flash and have a question re controlling levels

I am happy with ambient vs flash and how to use my 622

If I were to buy the yn568ex so I could have hss with my sb700 and the second flash,
if I added a further yn622n to trigger the second flash rather than just optically slaving it to the sb700, how can I adjust the second flash power without walking over and dialling it in on the back? Would the new 622n controller thing with the LCD screen due in November do that?
Am I right in assuming that to use the camera menus to control ratios in manual I have to use the pop up flash as commander?
Am I also right in assuming that the sb700 could control another flash if it is is master mode (even though it is off camera?)?

Some wise sage like advice would be great here....

Thanks
 
No idea about the 622's but I suspect you can't control individual ratios from the camera w/ it.
Yes, there must be a flash on camera (popup or commander capable) to control other flashes using CLS (camera menus).
No, the SB cannot be a commander off-camera... well it can if it's connected to the camera via a TTL hotshoe cable.
 
Thanks for the reply. It seems odd that the sb700 can't be used as a master off camera when the triggers can do TTL and make the flash seem as if it was on camera.
 
MIKEROPHONICS said:
Thanks for the reply. It seems odd that the sb700 can't be used as a master off camera when the triggers can do TTL and make the flash seem as if it was on camera.
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The real master unit is in fact the camera. That's where the clever stuff is done and all the 'master' flash/controller/trigger does is transmit instructions received through the hot-shoe contacts. Any unit that's not not connected directly to the hot-shoe cannot master anything.
 
HoppyUK said:
The real master unit is in fact the camera. That's where the clever stuff is done and all the 'master' flash/controller/trigger does is transmit instructions received through the hot-shoe contacts.
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Kind of. But for a camera w/out commander mode; a unit that acts as a commander (i.e. SB/SU800) isn't getting most of the "commands" (i.e. mode/ratio/etc) from the camera. It has to be attached TTL in order to time the pre-commands for the other units (and usually for TTL metering as well).
 
sk66 said:
Kind of. But for a camera w/out commander mode; a unit that acts as a commander (i.e. SB/SU800) isn't getting most of the "commands" (i.e. mode/ratio/etc) from the camera. It has to be attached TTL in order to time the pre-commands for the other units (and usually for TTL metering as well).
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Yes, I see what you mean and the camera and master unit act in tandem. Point is it's the camera that decides TTL exposure level and sync timing, therefore the master must be directly connected (or hard-wired) to the camera to receive instructions.

All the remote units do, regardless of other capabilities, is respond to the master by firing at this power, at this moment.
 
Ok done a load more diggin around

You CAN control power of remote flashes with 622N transceivers from the 622N on the top of the camera- even if they are TTL or manual. You just can't do ratios.

Yongnuo are bringing out a trigger in the 622 series with a screen to help do this better. Way cheaper than a Nikon su800 controller.

I could also use my sb700 on the top of the trigger as a master - an decide whether it contributes to the light source or not.

Cheers
 
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