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some weeks ago there was a thread about a virus

during the posts, one of the ''knowledgeable ones'' said to blocks scripts

so i dutifully installed the NoScript 2.1.7 Add-On into FF 7.0.1

now i cannot see half the drop-down lists on various websites

and little video clips in threads here wont run

is it more trouble than it's worth

I'm fed up having to authorize every page i open

not the best tech explanation but ''i know nothing''....:D

thanks
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The NoScript Firefox extension provides extra protection for Firefox, Seamonkey and other mozilla-based browsers: this free, open source add-on allows JavaScript, Java, Flash and other plugins to be executed only by trusted web sites of your choice (e.g. your online bank).

NoScript also provides the most powerful anti-XSS and anti-Clickjacking protection ever available in a browser.
 
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An awful lot of sites use scripts of one sort or another - as you have already discovered blocking them all severely limits your browsing.
Have you got a decent internet security programme installed?
Not only do you need virus protection but general security protection as well, e.g. Kaspersky Internet Security package.
If you have that sort of security protection installed then scripts should not be a major problem.
 
gramps said:
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Have you got a decent internet security programme installed?
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Just Dave said:
Id just uninstall it John :thumbs:
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neil_g said:
Never bothered with no script, just make sure you have decent av such as avast or Microsoft security essentials.
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thanks all..............:thumbs:

i have
MS Security Essentials
SuperAntiSpyware [lifetime subscription]
MalwareBytes AM
and Spybot Search & Destroy - altho it's never come up with a +ve...:shrug:

I'll take your advice and uninstall/disable NoScipt

thanks
 
I would disable the script, and re-assess your security

You need

- One single piece of AV software
- ne single piece of anti spyware software
- One firewall

Suggestions

- AVG
- Spybot
- Zonealarm

Make them regularly update, and check once a week that they actually have updated

Simple
 
Richard King said:
Suggestions

- AVG
- Spybot
- Zonealarm
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thanks for reply
it's very confusing to a non-techie

i constantly read AVG is ''bloated'' and MS S Essentials is the way to go....:thinking:

Spybot has never caught anything, whereas MAM has caught several Trojans

isn't the free ZA quite basic..?

i have a wireless router and assumed that was a good firewall..?

thanks..............john
 
Have to say I think AVG is bloated these days. Avast all the way at the moment....
Windows Firewall is as good as ZA too (assuming you're on Vista/7)..
I run Win firewall (I'm also behind a firewalled router too), avast and MBAM
 
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arad85 said:
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Windows Firewall is as good as ZA too (assuming you're on Vista/7)..
I run Win firewall (I'm also behind a firewalled router too), avast and MBAM
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W Vista Home Premium

when I loaded MS Security Essentials it disabled Windows Firewall
 
Windows security is a maze. You need to have AV- Sophie is best, followed by Symantec , followed by McGee. ( plenty of Gardner articles to support this). You need a firewall - preferably a next gen application layer firewall. You need decent password security. And a bit of common sense.

AnyAV product is only as good as its last update so make sure you turn on auto updates!,!!!
 
objohn said:
Windows security is a maze. You need to have AV- Sophos is best, followed by Symantec , followed by McGee. ( plenty of Gardner articles to support this). You need a firewall - preferably a next gen application layer firewall. You need decent password security. And a bit of common sense.

AnyAV product is only as good as its last update so make sure you turn on auto updates!,!!!
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Okay getting fed up with the iPad auto spell complete thingy. Meant....... Sophos, mcafee and Gartner. Etc. please ignore any other typos, my iPad has a mind of its own
 
objohn said:
Windows security is a maze. You need to have AV- Sophie is best, followed by Symantec , followed by McGee. ( plenty of Gardner articles to support this). You need a firewall - preferably a next gen application layer firewall. You need decent password security. And a bit of common sense.

AnyAV product is only as good as its last update so make sure you turn on auto updates!,!!!
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Lol what? Sophos is horrible and bloated and mse beats it hands down (at least it did 6 months ago when I wrote a proposal to swap works av over) you only have to look at how desperate Sophos were to get the renewal by massively undercutting their previous pricing for 3 years which annoyingly management favoured. Symantec is bloated, likewise mcafee which work replaced with Sophos many many moons ago.

You only have to look at our logs as to how much Sophos let's through and it's not pretty.

Talk of hardcore firewalls is all good and well but this isn't a business, windows 7 firewall is perfectly adequate for home users.
 
How much would you like me to prove that windows 7 firewall is not adequate? Give me your ip address and permission and let's test that theory?. Actually , don't other I have better things to do with my life.

Point is, you can't take this security stuff seriously enough. Some protection is better than none, but only just in some cases.


Sophie's is the best out there in terms of detection rates. It's a fact, backed up with more research than you can bat a stick at. May not be the best most lightweight admittedly, but certainly better than norton et al.
 
objohn said:
How much would you like me to prove that windows 7 firewall is not adequate? Give me your ip address and permission and let's test that theory?. Actually , don't other I have better things to do with my life.

Point is, you can't take this security stuff seriously enough. Some protection is better than none, but only just in some cases.

Sophie's is the best out there in terms of detection rates. It's a fact, backed up with more research than you can bat a stick at. May not be the best most lightweight admittedly, but certainly better than norton et al.
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Arghhh auto complete spell check thwarts my efforts again. Sophos seems to come out Sophie all the time which is actually quite funny!
 
objohn said:
How much would you like me to prove that windows 7 firewall is not adequate? Give me your ip address and permission and let's test that theory?. Actually , don't other I have better things to do with my life.

Point is, you can't take this security stuff seriously enough. Some protection is better than none, but only just in some cases.

Sophie's is the best out there in terms of detection rates. It's a fact, backed up with more research than you can bat a stick at. May not be the best most lightweight admittedly, but certainly better than norton et al.
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How would you explain the users that keep getting malware with Sophos. It's rubbish.

You really think hackers would waste their time trying to penetrate a home network?
 
Yes absolutely. They are the easiest targets with the most to gain. A simple online banking password can yield lots
 
You'd have to have my ip to start with, now unless you're going to try and make me visit a site that logs my address or you're going to trawl my ISP ip pool I wish you luck with that.

Once you've got that really what do you expect to achieve, drop a key logger onto my system. Probably not, decent av should cover that. Check my files for passwords stored in clear text. That would just be moronic of me.

Businesses or those on a static ip with public addresses then a hardware appliance would be the best way forward.
 
Well we could go on with this thread for weeks. The point really is that "most" people don't take security seriously enough. I don't personally count you in that Neil as you seem to know a a little about security, but most people don't. It's sad but oh so very true. People put credit cards into non secure sites, click on links in email etc.
 
Again, though one of the last places to try to hack. They are far easier targets
 
Back on topic... I used to use NoScript and at first found it interesting just how much ran on scripts. it was good for blocking some slow external links that were giving me slow page loads on one site. in general though it was more trouble than it was worth so I no longer have it installed.

As to security. There is a hardware firewall in the router which I've left on default and Barclays Bank gives me Kaspersky for free so we use that for AV.

I've not worried about AV for years as Kaspersky has blocked everything so far. I also go back to a time before relying on AV software so I'm not in the habit of clicking things that shouldn't be clicked.

Back when I did worry if the firewall etc was working I used to use 'shields up' to test it. No idea if it really does report anything useful but lots of green light reports make you feel better :)
 
objohn said:
How much would you like me to prove that windows 7 firewall is not adequate? Give me your ip address and permission and let's test that theory?.
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OK! I think I have a secure system... I run avast, MBAM and windows firewall. I'm up for your challenge.

My (static) IP is 127.0.0.1
 
I'm a noscript user and I find it makes browsing an altogether more pleasant experience. TP was disallowed scripting until the "TP White" style was introduced.


objohn said:
Give me your ip address and permission and let's test that theory?
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For most people, their IP address will be an RFC1918 address so not routeable. Good luck with hacking in to that ;). Even if they logged in to the router to find its WAN side IP address that still wouldn't do you much good, while NAT isn't a firewall it does inherently stop outbound instrusions.

My home IP addresses are all routeable as they are on their own /28. No NAT here. I use a hardware firewall between the router and the switch to stop outbound instrusion attempts.
 
Yardbent said:
i have
MS Security Essentials
SuperAntiSpyware [lifetime subscription]
MalwareBytes AM
and Spybot Search & Destroy - altho it's never come up with a +ve...:shrug:
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There are around 10,000 anti-virus products - and around 10,001 opinions as to which one is best.

For a standard home user MS Essentials is great - very unobtrusive and user-friendly. And free! Personally I would put common sense use of the internet above any of the other products (although I am a fan of all of them in certain circumstances.)

Very few anti-virus products will prevent you from opening the email attachment from a spurious "Parcel Delivery" company. They rely a lot on you, the user, not to do such silly things. Otherwise the AV would be continuously asking, "Are you sure?", "Are you sure?", "Are you sure?", all day long - and you'd turn it off.

No Script is great - if you are prepared to choose which scripts you do want - and you know whether or not you do want them. Otherwise it over-complicates the matter. Again, use your own common sense when browsing the web and you'll be fine.
 
arad85 said:
OK! I think I have a secure system... I run avast, MBAM and windows firewall. I'm up for your challenge.

My (static) IP is 127.0.0.1
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Yor really dont want to let the wife see those pics you have in that password protected folder :lol:
 
arad85 said:
Now that's dedicated ;) What hardware firewall do you use?
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I don't like NAT ;) and my ISP gives you as many IPv4 addresses as you say you need at no extra charge (or they used to, guessing that's a bit more difficult now).

The firewall is a firebrick, which is configurable enough for my needs. I was using a linux box with two network cards and a set of ipchains (was a while ago) rules, but that was noisy, used a lot of electric for what it did and died, so I replaced it with a dedicated box.
 
Gary Coyle said:
Yor really dont want to let the wife see those pics you have in that password protected folder :lol:
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Yes... I have enough so you can stop sending them to me now Gary :eek: :p
 
arad85 said:
Cool. Not heard of one of those before. Bit pricey tho :eek:
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It's going to have to be replaced in the not too distant future as it's eight years old and so from before they had ipv6 support. While I don't need ipv6 yet, that will change.

Not sure what I will be replacing it with as yet, but not thinking about that until next year.
 
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