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Hi everybody, can some one help me with my risk assessment?
I not really get understood wot i have to do.
I need risk assessments for landscape photography, architectural, portrait,...ect
Thanks
 
Risk assessment for taking photos?
 
There's more danger in viewing TP. I think we should have a risk assessment of it.
 
Easy tabulate it for each activity: Column one: Risk, column two: How risky (scale 1-10), column three: what can be done to minimize the risk?, column four: How risky afterwards (scale), column five: comments

Simple, effective and quick.
 
Who is asking for the Risk Assessments & what reasons have they given ?
 
Hazard tape on yer tripod legs...
 
oh blimey - had to do that carp on an adult Education course a few years back, for landscapes.

Just put in the usual crap - uneven ground - don't break a leg or two. Water - don't fall in and drown. Make it up, the wilder and wackier the more points you get. Mine took the pee so much... included hurting myself by carrying the tripod inappropriately, taking care to use the tripod properly, and cordoning off the area to make sure no one could trip on the tripod...... not pointing lenses etc at the big yellow thing in the sky... making sure people knew where i was and what time I could be expected to be back... i could go on.

Some of the above is sensible advice for other activities... though in all honesty if you have a bit of common sense, you should be able to take a photo of Southwold pier without endangering yourself or others.........
 
I have never seen a risk assessment or a Safe Working Practice that actually says use common sense.
It is an assessment of the risks involved in undertaking any task. Most companies are sh!t scared of letting anybody do anything on there property unless they have the appropriate bit of paper.
Have an accident at work and the first thing that is said is was there a risk assessment in place for that task and had we completed a Safe Working Practice oh and buy the way how is the person we injured.
 
munch said:
I have never seen a risk assessment or a Safe Working Practice that actually says use common sense.
It is an assessment of the risks involved in undertaking any task. Most companies are sh!t scared of letting anybody do anything on there property unless they have the appropriate bit of paper.
Have an accident at work and the first thing that is said is was there a risk assessment in place for that task and had we completed a Safe Working Practice oh and buy the way how is the person we injured.
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That's about it!:thumbs:
We had a winch operator killed when his winch tower hit a 33KVA power line. From that HSE & Scottish Electric said in future getting a shut down would be no problem. I asked for a shut down on the same power line a month later & was told the line was more important than felling trees near it & the line would not be shut down. They then suggested pulling the trees, that were in danger of hitting the line, with a winch!:thinking:
 
MisterE said:
There's more danger in viewing TP. I think we should have a risk assessment of it.
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risk of overdose in sugar and E numbers from excessive jaffa cake consumption

risk of high blood pressure at ridiculous trollage

risk of RSI from enjoying the N&G forum too much :naughty:

Eye strain from over long usage

risk of electrocution from spitting out tea all over keyboard ...
 
munch said:
I have never seen a risk assessment or a Safe Working Practice that actually says use common sense.
It is an assessment of the risks involved in undertaking any task. Most companies are sh!t scared of letting anybody do anything on there property unless they have the appropriate bit of paper.
Have an accident at work and the first thing that is said is was there a risk assessment in place for that task and had we completed a Safe Working Practice oh and buy the way how is the person we injured.
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Sadly 'common sense' isn't too common.

If a risk assessment is done properly and if there is very low risk it will show that nothing needs to be done, the point of a risk assessment is to show that someone had actually considered the potential risks involved.
 
Splog said:
Sadly 'common sense' isn't too common.

If a risk assessment is done properly and if there is very low risk it will show that nothing needs to be done, the point of a risk assessment is to show that someone had actually considered the potential risks involved.
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I kinda agree with you.
Iwas shadowed by a HSE Inspector weekly for 4 months. I argued the common sense angle, he denied such a thing existed & insisted I call it a risk assessment!
I also argued that someone like him who had never set foot on a timber felling operation,could not be qualified to do a risk assessment. We agreed to differ on that one.:lol:
 
doing a risk assessment in taking a photograph...........

Oh hang on..... the Southwold meet has been organised via the medium of TP, so should I trip on a pebble at dark o clock on Monday morning, I assume I can hold the big three of TP responsible as they have not insisted on risk assessments for TP meets..... :shrug:

Actually, if TP had not existed, I'd never have met Don S, and never have had the sea king experience......... :cuckoo:

Where there's a claim...... there's blame....

Common sense is what people had up until about 1990. And then came blame culture...


To be honest I can see it but not appreciate it in the workplace after being told my weirdfish fleece was a fire hazard by the H&S honcho

"why's that then?"
"well it's near the heater"
"oh. But it's not switched on."
"But someone could switch it on."
"Yes, I'll give you that, if they wired a plug onto the cord."
"what?????"

The fact the plug was needed for something else.... we never told him!
 
Lynton said:
doing a risk assessment in taking a photograph...........

Oh hang on..... the Southwold meet has been organised via the medium of TP, so should I trip on a pebble at dark o clock on Monday morning, I assume I can hold the big three of TP responsible as they have not insisted on risk assessments for TP meets..... :shrug:

Actually, if TP had not existed, I'd never have met Don S, and never have had the sea king experience......... :cuckoo:

Where there's a claim...... there's blame....

Common sense is what people had up until about 1990. And then came blame culture...

To be honest I can see it but not appreciate it in the workplace after being told my weirdfish fleece was a fire hazard by the H&S honcho

"why's that then?"
"well it's near the heater"
"oh. But it's not switched on."
"But someone could switch it on."
"Yes, I'll give you that, if they wired a plug onto the cord."
"what?????"

The fact the plug was needed for something else.... we never told him!
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And a few years before that thousands were killed and maimed in mining, factories and other places just doing their job!
 
Steve,

As the original poster and I clearly mentioned above, we are talking about taking a frigging photo, not dynamiting a mine or going down t'pit 25 hours a day for 8 days of the week and then sleeping in a cardboard box on the side of the motorway then getting up 30 mins before you went to bed.......

The words, "tongue" and "cheek" are coming rapidly towards this conversation...........:cuckoo:

oh and i fail to see the signifigance of your reply to my post..:cuckoo::cuckoo::lol:
 
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I do risk assessments often for work, massive waste of time for most things where common sense are involved, I can see the point on a building site etc but taking photos? You'd have to be some kind of mike to do yourself a mischeif there.

Using lyntons example, that would be covered by saying is the flooring flat and do you have adequate lighting
 
Lynton said:
Steve,

As the original poster and I clearly mentioned above, we are talking about taking a frigging photo, not dynamiting a mine or going down t'pit 25 hours a day for 8 days of the week and then sleeping in a cardboard box on the side of the motorway then getting up 30 mins before you went to bed.......

The words, "tongue" and "cheek" are coming rapidly towards this conversation...........:cuckoo:

oh and i fail to see the signifigance of your reply to my post..:cuckoo::cuckoo::lol:
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Indeed but the op didn't give too many details! My point was that it's easy to take the **** out of H&S but even just taking a photo could present serious risks such as trailing cables, electrical risks and maybe blocking fire exits etc.

The thread seems more about taking the **** out of H&S than answering the op's question?

Sorry, wasn't meant as a dig at you. :thumbs:
 
munch said:
I have never seen a risk assessment or a Safe Working Practice that actually says use common sense.
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You haven't seen one of mine then :thumbs:


Olena - do you need to follow a specific format or are you able to be more flexible in your RA? The HSE Five steps to risk assessment is pretty straight forward and common sense if you stick to it, but if you start going down the NEBOSH format you'll wind up mired in 3x3 tables and not end up any safer than you started.

If it's just an example, pick a situation that's really easy to produce an interesting risk assessment from as this will make it easier to demonstrate your understanding of risk. Indoor studio portrait is probably an easy one. Or outdoor landscape. Don't waste your time on trivial risks, focus on the serious ones.

The most important bit about a risk assessment is the actions to stay safe that come out of it. The RA itself is only so much a**ewipe unless it has actions at the end (some or all of which may already be in place).

If anyone wants to follow this up seriously, drop me a PM.
 
Look at the things like the persons present, the location, the time of day, the equipment being used, the type of photography being done and the prevailing conditions. Then think about what could go wrong and then what steps you can take to reduce those eventualities. Remember you don't need to remove all the risks as there is always an element of acceptance.

(and don't forget to recommend Hi-Viz filters for the cameras;))
 
Risk Assessment for a photographer/site - Is there any risk to the tog? will they be required to access areas which are potentially dangerous. in a vehicle yard, near moving equipment etc. Might any of the equipment to be used by the tog potentially be a risk to others, tripod or equipment bags in busy areas = trip hazard, flash going off in someones direction at the wrong moment distracting them. As said above Risk Assessment is just that, look for potential risks so that measures can be taken to prevent harm.
 
matty said:
I do risk assessments often for work, massive waste of time for most things where common sense are involved,
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This

I'm currently doing the tree risk assesments for our property - in very high and high use areas we have to assess every single tree , even if its patently obvious that theres nowt wrong with it. (like if its a one inch sapling for example)
 
20 years ago the school my niece attended didn't do a risk assessment when they showed the class how to wire a plug up

Each child was given a length of flex and a plug and showed how to strip the wire and wire it up

They were then given the finished product to take home

My brother in law is an electrician, he was horrified when he saw any child plugging it in could be holding the other end which was live and exposed
 
That reminded me of something I saw at work a number of years ago. We used to have a small hand-operated battery powered forklift. Obviously it was plugged in to the mains to charge when not in use. One day I saw the charging lead plugged in but the forklift was elsewhere. Laying on the floor at the other end of the charging lead was.......another 3-pin plug.
 
In these days of litigation doing a proper risk assessment is as much about protecting yourself as protecting others. Although you may have used common sense unless you have something on paper there is no proof that you have thought about the risks and you may be deemed liable for any accident.
 
schastleveca said:
Hi everybody, can some one help me with my risk assessment?
I not really get understood wot i have to do.
I need risk assessments for landscape photography, architectural, portrait,...ect
Thanks
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Take a look on the C&G website. There's an example given within this workbook.
 
I did at one point, have to fill in a risk assessment for (and I titled it with this):

"Putting a camera on a tripod".

Hi vis was involved, but I did stop short of hard hat and steelies...
 
I assume from the high-vis reference this involved working in a traffic area and in the vicinity of moving vehicles?

If not, it sounds like one of the pointless RAs requested by people that don't understand OH&S. To paraphrase someone who will be known to anyone involved in H&S in East Anglia..

"I don't want to see risk assessments for making a cup of tea. Making a cup of tea is a life skill. If you employ someone who can't make a cup of tea safely you really should be asking yourself whether you should be employing them at all".

This is from a senior HSE inspector. Who has also stated that he doesn't want to see "bits of paper" (risk assessments), because he'd much rather not have cause to read them (i.e. be safe, don't write safe).

There is common sense in H&S, it's just that it's a rare commodity in some organisations.
 
Alastair said:
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"I don't want to see risk assessments for making a cup of tea. Making a cup of tea is a life skill. If you employ someone who can't make a cup of tea safely you really should be asking yourself whether you should be employing them at all".

This is from a senior HSE inspector. Who has also stated that he doesn't want to see "bits of paper" (risk assessments), because he'd much rather not have cause to read them (i.e. be safe, don't write safe).

There is common sense in H&S, it's just that it's a rare commodity in some organisations.
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Lol - in a previous job i was required to produce (amongst others)a RA for making the tea - I started off with the blindingly obvious risk that boiling water is hot, then because i was bored and found the whole process fatuous moved on to lesser known risks such as "excessive caffeine consumption may lead to irrational rage and psychosis in staff - mitigating factor straitjackets and tranquilizers to be kept on hand", and " the smell of some herbal beverages may attract passing bears - mitigating factor, a high calibre rifle to be kept in the office at all times"

My imediate boss complimented me on a job well done (which shows how well he read the produced RAs ) and forwarded the RAs upwards , and the big boss eventually went apes*** and both of us got a severe *******ing :lol:
 
I've got a Client who against my advice has a Risk Assessment for "Boiling a Kettle"



He did give me a funny look when I pointed out that as he had a RA in place he should really give the Staff working to it formal Kettle training :D
 
i don't have a problem with H&S at all, in the workplace, however when a bulb goes at home, I change it. When i want a cuppa I make it.

What does annoy me is we have to call in an electrician to change a bulb as I could damage myself / someone else in doing it.

I would hope at the age of 38, I can use a step ladder and change a bulb without H&S a RA or having to sign something to say I have been trained.
 
Trouble is that someone somewhere has probably fallen off a step ladder and sued their employer - its the compensation culture thats at the route of all this silly over red taping as employers try valiantly to cover their arse.

I'm also annoyed to find that you are younger than me :lol:
 
big soft moose said:
Trouble is that someone somewhere has probably fallen off a step ladder and sued their employer - its the compensation culture thats at the route of all this silly over red taping as employers try valiantly to cover their arse.
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^this^

Last year an idiot was awarded damages because he fell off his ladder whilst cutting branches from a tree, he cut the branch the ladder was leaning against..........

There was no RA or proof of ladder training so "injuryclaimingdirectlawyersforyou" had another success :bang:
 
mrgubby said:
^this^

Last year an idiot was awarded damages because he fell off his ladder whilst cutting branches from a tree, he cut the branch the ladder was leaning against..........

There was no RA or proof of ladder training so "injuryclaimingdirectlawyersforyou" had another success :bang:
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No doubt because the insurance company wouldn't defend the claim.. if insurance companies decided that for five years they would defend every claim, no matter how small the claim value.. they'd put the no-win-no-fee cowboys out of business..

Because in the situation given above, I'd be tempted to try a defence based on:

Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974
7 General duties of employees at work..
It shall be the duty of every employee while at work—
(a)not to be an ar$$; and
(b)not to p*ss about.​

(I've paraphrased for clarity) :lol:
 
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