Result (Boston Bomber)

JennyGW said:
Creating more martyrs is no way to break the circle.
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Rapscallion said:
Creating a martyr for the cause is one sure way of exacerbating the problem.
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As has been said, it'll make no difference. I much prefer a million dead martyrs, than a million live 5h1t heads on the loose!
 
OldCarlos said:
As has been said, it'll make no difference. I much prefer a million dead martyrs, than a million live 5h1t heads on the loose!
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Martyrs are one of the causes of just that. Kill one martyr and a thousand will take his place.
 
Bondy said:
Whilst the death penalty has little effect on preventing murder it does have a 100% success rate in preventing re-offending.
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Only if you've got the right person. And authorities are even less inclined to reopen old cases if they've already executed someone for it.
 
Rapscallion said:
How does it help vs keeping him jail for life?
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Help what? I simply see it as a punishment befitting of the crime committed, but then I personally am not looking try to use the outcome to in any way solve the problem of religious or political extremism, nor to salve the troubled consciences of those who see terrorists as being souls to be saved.
 
viv1969 said:
Help what? I simply see it as a punishment befitting of the crime committed, but then I personally am not looking try to use the outcome to in any way solve the problem of religious or political extremism, nor to salve the troubled consciences of those who see terrorists as being souls to be saved.
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Well, I think having both eyes closed as to how an action will affect / incite religious extremists has got us in all sorts of a mess.
I also think that perhaps Einstein was right in his definition of insanity...
 
woof woof said:
There's a little ditty which goes something like "Thou Shall not kill" and it's something that's been a part of most civilised societies for quite some time
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Doing things just because it is written somewhere, is an crackpot way to justify something. And probably just exactly what the bomber did.
There are plenty of sensible, longer sighted reasons not to have a death penalty. However the vengeance is strong in this thread.
Steep said:
I understand that, he's guilty by his own admission but even here the death penalty is wrong, because it's what he probably wants, to make him a martyr.
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As I understand it, a confession itself doesn't affect such a sentence, as it discourages people from confessing. It's probably not your point. But I thought it worth a mention.
 
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boyfalldown said:
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don't they have to bomb something before you execute them for it?
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Yes, although not only bombings though, they could murder individuals on a repetitive basis over long periods, or help plan/organise atrocities. So imo should be executed if found guilty.
 
Llamaman said:
Suicidal extremists convinced of an afterlife tend to be quite hard to intimidate with violence.
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Possibly true, but does that mean we should let them live & breed more violence?
Personally I'd behead them (after execution if it appeases some of the do-gooders) & bury them at sea, or feed their remains to pigs.

We are talking about extremists who have no respect for human life, no tolerance of any other society or beliefs & are hell bent on destroying other cultures. They shouldn't be able to use/be afforded human rights laws, which they don't believe in btw (until it suits them)

Simply put, they should lose the right to any civilised societies privileges. (apart from a fair trial)
 
It's not them you have to worry about once caught, it's the example that will be made of what you do to them by those whose 'job' it is to radicalise others.
 
OldCarlos said:
Possibly true, but does that mean we should let them live & breed more violence?
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My comment expressed no opinion either way so I don't know why you've quoted me?

I was simply pointing out to ST4 that executing one extremist won't create the 'fear' he craves in the convicted's colleagues. Which you failed to address in your own comment?
 
OldCarlos said:
As I posted previously, the `preachers` would also forfeit their right to life if found guilty.
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So we can kill ST4 for advocating murdering immigrants?

Volunteers?
 
Let's face it, there's very little chance this bloke will ever receive his sentence.

The US government has executed only three of those sentenced to death using federal laws...that's 3 out of 80 since the federal death penalty was reinstated in 1988, and none since 2003.
 
Llamaman said:
My comment expressed no opinion either way so I don't know why you've quoted me?

I was simply pointing out to ST4 that executing one extremist won't create the 'fear' he craves in the convicted's colleagues. Which you failed to address in your own comment?
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????? :confused:

I was just replying to what you posted. (not having a go at you) :cool:
 
ST4 said:
It's not murder, it's defence of the realm.
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Good response Steve. I may not agree with you on many subjects, but I admire your tenacity.
 
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