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So I am still using my trusty old 20D at the moment but think its time to replace it, question remains though as to if the right answer is the desired 7D Mk2, 77D, 80D or possibly even the slightly older 70D but that seems less of a strong move.

Most of my photography is a mixture of portraiture group shots outdoors and landscapes. I cant claim to be an expert or vastly strong photographer but do enjoy it none the less. In terms of lenses I have a couple including the 17-70 Sigma that are crop sensor specific and I very much enjoy using so seems logical to stick with APS-C.

Thoughts? things I have missed?
 
I can't fault your sticking with APS-C logic Pete. It sounds like you don't need a blazing fast AF performance or high frames per second either, I guess the biggest question then is one of budget?
 
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Yeah, I think the budget is a big question, 800-950 is my target (ideally less but lets be realistic with my asks) and I sort of hope I can get a 7D Mk2 for that money for the weather sealing. There are occasions when I do bits of sport or wildlife photography that the higher frame rates would be nice but I cant see them being the key focus of my photography.
 
If this was my case, I would strongly consider Canon 6D.
Even a second hand one.
I moved to Sony now, but still remember my old Canon 6D and I believe it is a very good value for the money.
The only issue could be about your lens - are they EF-S or EF.
 
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Yeah, I think the budget is a big question, 800-950 is my target (ideally less but lets be realistic with my asks) and I sort of hope I can get a 7D Mk2 for that money for the weather sealing. There are occasions when I do bits of sport or wildlife photography that the higher frame rates would be nice but I cant see them being the key focus of my photography.
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My friend recently upgraded his 40D to an 80D and has been very happy with it, I see they can be had new, body only for £974 at present, whilst the 77D can be had from £809. The 7D2 looks to be a stretch too far unless you look to the second hand market.
 
Interesting thoughts on the pricing, I will consider second hand and was vaguely considering the grey import route where the 7d2 can be had for less than 1K which is an option, but lets not allows this thread to go too far in that direction.
 
I use to be canon and shot for a long time with a 20d then a 30d when it died. If i was you i would go for the 7d mark ii. This because it has a little joystick in the back to select the focus point. That was my main issue when i got a 70D. The disapearance of that joystick. Other problem with 70d is that there is the flip screen so the button have been move to the center which is really hard to use. On the 7d mark ii you have a joystick and some button along the left side! Much more like the 20D!
 
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If this was my case, I would strongly consider Canon 6D.
Even a second hand one.
I moved to Sony now, but still remember my old Canon 6D and I believe it is a very good value for the money.
The only issue could be about your lens - are they EF-S or EF.
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His post says they're crop, but I'd second your suggestion, he's not particularly invested in crop glass.
 
The 80d has a step up in sensor tech, and is no slouch when it comes to AF and frame rate.

Definitely what I'd buy.

Or a 2nd hand 6d. ;)
 
What did you like about the 20D and what didn't you like?
 
I do recognise that in some ways i should shop in my glass and get a 6D and go full frame but I have three lenses I like that are all EF-S and my head isnt ready for that at the moment. I liked the 20D focusing system back when I got it, but now the focus points and quality of focus seems poor compared tot he newer technology. I also now want to have the option to print larger than the 8MP supports at a good quality, how big? well I suggest that any of the above options will handle the sizes I am thinking about really. I wish my 20D was weatherproofed for when doing shots on beaches and other wet environments, and a bit lighter wouldnt go a miss as I think everything I am considering covers. My feeling at the moment is that there probably isnt that much in it between the 7D mk2 and the 80D but the user interface differs enough that it would be worth holding both to consider if I want the joystick in a better place and so on. The top screen on the 7D Mk2 I believe to be better too, guess its time to play with them soon.
 
I started with the 20D, then moved onto the 50D, 60D and now have the 7D2 and the 5D3. I can't really comment on the 80D, but I can't fault the 7D2 at all. an excellent camera. Where abouts are you based Pete? I'd be more than happy to meet for you to try the 7D2 hands on if you're near to Cardiff.
 
Pete_Photography said:
... I have three lenses I like that are all EF-S ...
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The related question is, what 3 EF-S lenses do you have?
If they are of a similar vintage to the 20D, they may be worth replacing in the long run anyway, in which case a move to full frame isn't so crazy.
If your EF-S lenses are good ones, then yes it may well make sense to stick with a crop sensor camera.

Also if you may be doing wildlife stuff, the fast AF of the 7D2 is great, BUT if your EF-S lenses aren't fast enough to focus, then you won't be getting the full benefit of the 7D2's AF system. AF motors in lenses have come a long way in the last couple of years particularly with Canon's STM models, Sigma's newer HSM and Tamron's USD systems.
However, you could buy the 7D2 and then upgrade the lenses at a later date as needed.
 
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