Remeber To Back Up Your Photos!

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Got a virus on my laptop, and problems with the harddrive meant I was unable to backup my work, I lost 10% of my photos, which is very lucky considering, but its a lot of work when you have over 1000 photos.

Lost all my software and programs, and with photoshop all the added brushes etc.

I now have CS2 installed, instead of 9.0 editor which I used to have, so struggling to work with it.

Remember to back up your work, I was damn lucky to only lose 10% it could have been a hell of a lot worse, so let it serve as a reminder, even if you only back up your most important images!
 
all photo,s backed up to external h/d :thumbs: get one NOW!!!!!!!!! :lol:
 
Only have a 1000 pictures? Man 10% would be about 6,000 images for me. External disk- only connected when doing the backup- sorted :)
 
reminds me of times I used to be on windows and lost all my wife's graduation photos due to a virus!

I have a very good backup system now on my iMac, and thankfully in 4 years haven't had to use it yet
 
Thankfully I have a good habit of storing my files online, so worst case scenario I'd lose all my raw files and just have jpegs...

Still, agree 100% with it being the best £50 I'll ever spend! Must pick up something this weekend.
 
If the stuff important then remember a good back strategy would be to backup off pc to a External Hard Drive as well as maybe some online backup system there are many and most will give 2gb space free and for loads of space cost is minimal.

As no doubt you external hard drive will stay in same location as your pc what happens if your hit by a flood, fire theft.

Multiple location and disk backups are only way yo avoid any heart ache if you value it back it up otherwise cry in your cornflakes

Only ever lost files once due to HD failure and that was back in the early 90's when usb drive were not even main stream and Internet was mainly html based.
 
dinorock said:
all photo,s backed up to external h/d :thumbs: get one NOW!!!!!!!!! :lol:
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Good advice, but not perfect. I archive my images to an external HDD after i've finished working on them on the laptop. I then replicate that HDD to another external HDD. So in theory I should be fairly safe. Only I wasn't. the archive HDD failed and I had overlooked replicating it to the other HDD for a week or so. I was lucky in that I didn't lose very much and had additional copies elsewhere to recover most of them. But the only real safety net is to make sure you have 2 copies of all your images at any one time. 3 copies would be better...

My data management process is now:

Copy left on CF card whilst copy on laptop.
Copy left on laptop and copied to archive HDD, CF card recycled.
Archive HDD replicated to backup HDD, then delete laptop copy.

Now I think I'm covered :lol:
 
I have a time machine back up of my entire Mac, including photos obviously.
I then back up all my photos & music once a week to 2 separate external drives and store one at home and one at work!

Belt & braces ftw :thumbs:

:)
 
I cant believe theres anyone who has spent any time on TP who doesnt back up there files.. Madness!
 
hepburn said:
Good advice, but not perfect. I archive my images to an external HDD after i've finished working on them on the laptop. I then replicate that HDD to another external HDD. So in theory I should be fairly safe. Only I wasn't. the archive HDD failed and I had overlooked replicating it to the other HDD for a week or so. I was lucky in that I didn't lose very much and had additional copies elsewhere to recover most of them. But the only real safety net is to make sure you have 2 copies of all your images at any one time. 3 copies would be better...

My data management process is now:

Copy left on CF card whilst copy on laptop.
Copy left on laptop and copied to archive HDD, CF card recycled.
Archive HDD replicated to backup HDD, then delete laptop copy.

Now I think I'm covered :lol:
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set auto back up and no need to "forget" :thumbs:
 
Just partition the HDD and keep your data separate from the O/S on the other partition, wont safeguard you from HDD failure but it will safeguard against a virus or O/S crash.
 
KIPAX said:
I cant believe theres anyone who has spent any time on TP who doesnt back up there files.. Madness!
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I do, but with the harddrive virus the more I used it, the more I put my laptop at risk so I couldn't back up my latest images.
 
Whatever you backup to you should also test it periodically to make sure what you are backing up actually works. Applies to online, CD, Hard Drives etc, try copying some files back and make sure they are ok.

The time to test is not once you have lost everything on your primary drive! (that's not directed at you Gothgirl)
 
akr said:
Whatever you backup to you should also test it periodically to make sure what you are backing up actually works. Applies to online, CD, Hard Drives etc, try copying some files back and make sure they are ok.

The time to test is not once you have lost everything on your primary drive! (that's not directed at you Gothgirl)
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Which is why I mirror - can see directly which files, if any, are corrupted in some way...
 
i've loaded on close to 10,000 images since the start of the year, thought on fri night, ****, must back up those images... sat morning go to pc, dead! bye bye images
 
chris_f said:
Just partition the HDD and keep your data separate from the O/S on the other partition, wont safeguard you from HDD failure but it will safeguard against a virus or O/S crash.
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This won't protect your data from a Virus only good Antivirus and common sense will help minimise the risk of being infected by a Virus, Trojan or Rootkit.
 
You are death and destruction aren't you? Inside of 24hrs you've told us your camera is broken and now your lappy is toast and your photos are history...

They say trouble comes in threes, be extra careful crossing the road today!

:D
 
hepburn said:
Good advice, but not perfect. I archive my images to an external HDD after i've finished working on them on the laptop. I then replicate that HDD to another external HDD. So in theory I should be fairly safe. Only I wasn't. the archive HDD failed and I had overlooked replicating it to the other HDD for a week or so. I was lucky in that I didn't lose very much and had additional copies elsewhere to recover most of them. But the only real safety net is to make sure you have 2 copies of all your images at any one time. 3 copies would be better...

My data management process is now:

Copy left on CF card whilst copy on laptop.
Copy left on laptop and copied to archive HDD, CF card recycled.
Archive HDD replicated to backup HDD, then delete laptop copy.

Now I think I'm covered :lol:
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You should setup the way I have. My photos on my hard drive are backed up automatically once and hour by time machine onto an external hard drive then my 2nd hard drive runs a program called WD Backup (it's a western digital program) to automatically back that up any time it changes.

Since my whole backup is automated I never suffer from the "I didn't have time to backup my backup scenario"

works a treat
 
desantnik said:
You are death and destruction aren't you? Inside of 24hrs you've told us your camera is broken and now your lappy is toast and your photos are history...

They say trouble comes in threes, be extra careful crossing the road today!

:D
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Trouble comes in more than 3's for us!

In the space of two weeks.

Lens broke
laptop broke(viruses)
oh's laptop broke (viruses)
bank card got ****ed (somehow got cancelled??)
laptop broke again (charger port gone)
Had to have our oldest and favourite Boa Put To Sleep.
Got my two breaks in photography but can't do it because no camera.

There's plenty more but can't be arsed to list.:thumbsdown:
 
doesnt sound like a virus to be honest, ive never come across anything that has prevented getting a copy of the data off.. what exactly happened?

but yes, have at least 2 copies of your data preferably with 1 off site. and no RAID is not a backup unless its 1 of 2 devices (not mirroring).
 
Nadeem said:
As no doubt you external hard drive will stay in same location as your pc what happens if your hit by a flood, fire theft.

Multiple location and disk backups are only way yo avoid any heart ache if you value it back it up otherwise cry in your cornflakes .
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This is why I back up onto an iPod, which is permanently in my pocket :clap:
 
Everyone always learns the hard way :( Myself included :(
 
neil_g said:
doesnt sound like a virus to be honest, ive never come across anything that has prevented getting a copy of the data off.. what exactly happened?

but yes, have at least 2 copies of your data preferably with 1 off site. and no RAID is not a backup unless its 1 of 2 devices (not mirroring).
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Problems with the hardrive, the more you accessed it, the more damage it did.
 
have a look at www.drobo.com - very reliable system. I bought one from someone on here. I feel safe(er) now!
 
c_robinson said:
i've loaded on close to 10,000 images since the start of the year, thought on fri night, ****, must back up those images... sat morning go to pc, dead! bye bye images
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A dead PC doesn't mean having to say bye bye to your photos. Please tell us that you do know this, don't you?

As for any of you who put your photos on the C drive - and judging from a recent thread, there are a number here - then you deserve all the grief that you will inevitably reap one day. Learn from other people's mistakes - not your own.
 
Hardly. If the photos are backed up it doesn't matter where you store them. A ruined hard drive doesn't have to mean a ruined day but it does for many people as they don't back up data.
 
1. Backup is a must (ideally multiple copies on separate drives, stored at different locations in case of theft or fire)

2. Macs and Linux workstations are thousands of times safer (and faster) than M$ bloatware

3. If you are unlucky enough to run windows, never ever use root (admin) privileges except for administration purposes (even that can be done with 'Run as' from limited user). Connecting a backup to an infected system won't do any good.

4. Be careful where you get your porn from. Don't ever use IE.
 
All the images I keep are uploaded to Flickr, but I need to get an external HDD to keep all of my raw files. I'd hate to lose even 10% of my work.
 
daugirdas said:
3. If you are unlucky enough to run windows, never ever use root (admin) privileges except for administration purposes (even that can be done with 'Run as' from limited user). Connecting a backup to an infected system won't do any good.

4. Be careful where you get your porn from. Don't ever use IE.
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This has been done to death - honestly if it was true then the business world wouldn't run on Windows. I do all of those things you listed I shouldn't do, and I don't even use an antivirus program, my System is and always has been fine? :clap:

It's not the machine that's at fault it's the human, and as a person who works in technical support (the joys) I can guarantee you this is true. Your point about using 'Run As' from a limited user is null btw because if a program is going to get attacked you're running it under an administrative session anyway - the avenues of attack are still there because the program is running as a user with unrestricted access to the system.

Honestly I understand people who prefer Macs, it's fine but what I don't get is that so many of them feel the need to incessantly winge about how apparently inadequate Windows is, when as I've mentioned it is what upholds the business world. The only thing Macs are used for in the serious world is for drawing pretty pictures. Literally.
 
trencheel303 said:
This has been done to death - honestly if it was true then the business world wouldn't run on Windows.

M$ played a very clever game called "LOCK IN" back in the 90s. They are extremely clever at marketing and neutralising competitors, I wish they were that good at coding.

I do all of those things you listed I shouldn't do, and I don't even use an antivirus program, my System is and always has been fine? :clap:

How do you know your system is fine? Unless you have a very good firewall, and only visit clean websites like BBC or TP - it must be full of malware and keyloggers. It doesn't necessarily have to give symptoms apart from disappearing cash of your bank account.

It's not the machine that's at fault it's the human, and as a person who works in technical support (the joys) I can guarantee you this is true.

In the old days back at Warwick uni we had many major virus breakouts, and they lost my data including password a couple of times. I was well pleased.

Your point about using 'Run As' from a limited user is null btw because if a program is going to get attacked you're running it under an administrative session anyway - the avenues of attack are still there because the program is running as a user with unrestricted access to the system.

Root access is only used on very limited occasions, therefore there is only a tiny chance that the process would be hijacked (other than security holes). Running as root is insane.:cuckoo: Setting up proper file permissions is a must, but damn hard on windows.

Honestly I understand people who prefer Macs, it's fine but what I don't get is that so many of them feel the need to incessantly winge about how apparently inadequate Windows is, when as I've mentioned it is what upholds the business world. The only thing Macs are used for in the serious world is for drawing pretty pictures. Literally.

I could count tens of people working in the same place and using macs. Not a single one of them does graphics.
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I could reply, but as I suspected it will just descend into an 'Im right and you're wrong' kinda thing so I'll pass...
 
trencheel303 said:
The only thing Macs are used for in the serious world is for drawing pretty pictures. Literally.
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and web design, and movie making, and 3d game design, and music editing ...

The list goes on

that's as naive as saying all windows is used for in the serious world is creating spreadsheets
 
trencheel303 said:
Hardly. If the photos are backed up it doesn't matter where you store them. A ruined hard drive doesn't have to mean a ruined day but it does for many people as they don't back up data.
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You've just contradicted yourself. A significant number of people default to storing their photos on the C drive. It fails to boot one day and they don't know how to recover the situation. Often the drive ends up being wiped and Windows reloaded. Backup is a nice term to throw around but even those who do back up regularly still don't do it instantly, and will always lose something. If your PC fails to start for whatever reason, you don't need the hassle of worrying about your photos and documents on your C drive, and wondering how to recover them. If they are on a different, and preferably physically separate drive, there is no worry. I've lost C drives before but never photos on them because I have never put them there in the first place. Likewise the Documents and email folders have been moved elsewhere.

Just as there are lots of people here new to photography, there are also plenty who don't know their way around computers. As I have said - learn from other people's mistakes - not your own.
 
as said doesnt matter where data is stored as long as you have a copy. allway sync, set it to sync on detect of new files. sorted.

C drive, D drive, X drive or any other drive, you could get an instant fail and lose your data. swings and roundabouts.

daugirdas said:
2. Macs and Linux workstations are thousands of times safer (and faster) than M$ bloatware

3. If you are unlucky enough to run windows, never ever use root (admin) privileges except for administration purposes (even that can be done with 'Run as' from limited user). Connecting a backup to an infected system won't do any good.

4. Be careful where you get your porn from. Don't ever use IE.
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oh dear here we go again. and i suppose that the 2 drives that we've had fail connected to macs in the last 10 days is a fluke?

i have NEVER had a virus transfer from connecting a USB drive to an infected system. generally viruses hide in the temporary files and/or windows system files which you shouldnt be copying between machines anyway.

IE, FF, chrome.. who cares what you use, if you download something dodgy then youll still get infected. i think you should be concentrating more on your AV protection..
 
Enough already!!!

This thread is about the importance of backing up so lets get it back on topic.

This ain't going to descend into yet another Mac vs PC debate :nono:
 
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