Rechargeable batteries for Speed light

Ben6 said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sanyo-Enelo...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1361640404&sr=1-2
These should suit you fine, they're the 2nd gen ones which are supposed to hold their charge for longer and have a recharge life of 1500 times.
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I originally ordered my first set from those people (iCell Media).

Be aware they ship from Switzerland via DeutschePost. Mine took 12 days to arrive, despite their FAQ showing UK ETA as 3-5 days. Since I complained to them, they have changed their Amazon page to now say 3-18 days !!
 
savvy249 said:
I originally ordered my first set from those people (iCell Media).

Be aware they ship from Switzerland via DeutschePost. Mine took 12 days to arrive, despite their FAQ showing UK ETA as 3-5 days. Since I complained to them, they have changed their Amazon page to now say 3-18 days !!
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Have you found a better place?
 
rookies said:
Have you found a better place?
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No, not for the price if you only want one set.

I ended up ordering my next lot from Dandy shop who I have ordered from before, but it's 3 sets including plastic separator boxes.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sanyo-HR-3U...4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1361641277&sr=1-4

They are a German company, but the difference is that the order is fulfilled by Amazon on their shipping terms. I got my stuff from them quite quickly.

You could chance eBay, but beware, fake batteries abound there.
 
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looking at getting a set of Eneloops,

Can anyone recommend a trickle charger? Mainly from Amazon as i have vouchers to burn
 
The 7dayshop one doesn't have user variable charge rates - and 'super fast charger' doesn't bode well for eneloops.

I already have a fast charger for regular AA Ni-Mhs so IQ-328 for the eneloops was a no-brainer for me.
 
Robert Davies said:
The 7dayshop one doesn't have user variable charge rates - and 'super fast charger' doesn't bode well for eneloops.

I already have a fast charger for regular AA Ni-Mhs so IQ-328 for the eneloops was a no-brainer for me.
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Ah right , ill nab the Accupower then :) Cheers Robert

I take it this would be fine for the newer 1x8 Sanyo Eneloop Mignon AA 2000 mAh
 
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Tugster said:
These are similar to the tech used in the Eneloops. Cheaper and slightly higher capacity...I have just purchased some for my EX600RT's and CP-E4's.

What attracted me to them was the LSD characteristics and the cost.
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Tug, this is very interesting, especially the price compared to Eneloops.

I couldn't find anything in the 7DayShop description about their Low Self Discharge characteristics (unless I missed it with my eyesight!!), and the Tech Specs tab is blank - where did you get this info that they are similar to Eneloops?

Thanks.


Les.
 
Right...

I 100% know im going for eneloops batterys now
but i'm still undecided on a charger to go for.?

I was going to go with the basic setup Sanyo MQN04 HR-3UTGA Battery Pack at 13 quid but have read about the charger not being as good as the rest as they don't charge single cell's only 2x..

so have now been looking at the one posted above AccuPower LCD Fast Charger IQ328 at 23 quid. BUT with a pack of eneloops on top its going to be 30 quid


SO 3rd option would be this.. Technoline BL-700 at 30 quid but comes with a set of batterys so "ALL" complete ready to go BUT not eneloops...

I didn't really want to spend so much on a set of batterys just to get the flash working BUT I remember from flying model helis if you buy cheap you usualy end up having to buy twice so sometimes it pays to spend that little bit extra the first time round. :(

whats the best option.?

or is there something else to go for cheaper & as good.
 
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The eternal mantra of charging individual cells, is to charge each cell individually. I cannot say for definite, but that charger appears to charge in pairs - the quick and dirty way of making an educated guess about whether a charger will charge cells individually, is to count the idiot lights above/below the cells - four idiot lights, four cells, it's a fair guess that the cells will be charged separately. Two idiot lights, four cells - not so much.
 
I am a cheapskate - yet after all my research a few years ago I plumped for the Technoline BL-700 and am very glad I did. They also do a BC-700 which is the same charger with a European plug that was about a tenner cheaper, you may be able to find that still around.
 
I've used http://www.battery-force.co.uk/ many times and the service has always been brilliant.

Prices always seem fairly good but its the quality of service that keeps me going back. They have special offers quite a bit as well.

Worth a look



:thumbs:
 
Tugster said:
redhed17 said:
I use 7Dayshop AAs, powerful and cheap. :)
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These are similar to the tech used in the Eneloops. Cheaper and slightly higher capacity...I have just purchased some for my EX600RT's and CP-E4's.

What attracted me to them was the LSD characteristics and the cost.
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I've done some more research, and these are not the same as Eneloops, the 7DayShop equivalent are these ones :-
http://www.7dayshop.com/7dayshop-go...?backUrl=L2NoYXJnZXJzLXBvd2VyLWJhdHRlcmllcw==

Still a good price, though.
 
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i see a few threads all saying the same thing about eneloops ( or there equivalents ) and as good as they are i still think NI ZN batteries are a better choice for use with flashes
they recycle faster and still have a long shelf life

the only drawback if you can call it that is the need there own dedicated charger but i don't think that is a problem

iv'e been using hybrid batteries since they were launched by uniross known as hybrio batteries and still have quite a few sets of them and there very good but the higher voltage ( 1.6v ) NI ZN's are ideally suited for speedlights etc

batteries
http://www.maplin.co.uk/nickel-zinc-aa-rechargeable-batteries-4-pack-624782

charger
http://www.maplin.co.uk/nickel-zinc-aa-battery-charger-624781

at this moment ( maplins sale price ) their bloody cheep :)
 
Went for the Technoline BL-700 Intelligent AA-AAA battery charger (UK Version) in the end.

Currently have some vapextech instant 2300mah i currently use.

Ill just move on to Eneloops at a later time.

Whoa!! Your estimated delivery date is:
Saturday, March 09, 2013

17:26 (16 hours ago) Dispatch notice from Amazon 28th FEB 13

9:35 1/03/13 At my door!
 
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cosmicma said:
i see a few threads all saying the same thing about eneloops ( or there equivalents ) and as good as they are i still think NI ZN batteries are a better choice for use with flashes
they recycle faster and still have a long shelf life

the only drawback if you can call it that is the need there own dedicated charger but i don't think that is a problem

iv'e been using hybrid batteries since they were launched by uniross known as hybrio batteries and still have quite a few sets of them and there very good but the higher voltage ( 1.6v ) NI ZN's are ideally suited for speedlights etc

batteries
http://www.maplin.co.uk/nickel-zinc-aa-rechargeable-batteries-4-pack-624782

charger
http://www.maplin.co.uk/nickel-zinc-aa-battery-charger-624781

at this moment ( maplins sale price ) their bloody cheep :)
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There may be another drawback. I recently bought another Yongnuo speedlight (YN560-III) - the manual specifically states that Ni-Zn batteries should not be used. A quick google search would seem to point to there being some risk to frying circuitry due to the higher (>1.5V) supply voltage. Clicky here for an example.
 
Tugster said:
I did not say they were the same, I stated that they were similar. The price difference and the fact they are also LSD was what swung it for me.

£5.19 /4 pack with case is good value IMHO.
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But the link provided by redhed17, and referenced by yourself, does not refer to LSD at all; where do you get the information that says they are? (which was my original question to you)

The link to the "Good to Go" batteries I provided does state they are LSD.
 
savvy249 said:
But the link provided by redhed17, and referenced by yourself, does not refer to LSD at all; where do you get the information that says they are? (which was my original question to you)

The link to the "Good to Go" batteries I provided does state they are LSD.
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The link is an auto link that this site applies. It takes you to the site and not to any specific product.

The link you have provided is the batteries that I am referring to in my earlier post.

Just to add, the advice given earlier stating that the batteries needed to be charged prior to use as they are not fully charged 'ready to go' it true. I had them on charge for a good hour until the Duracell charger indicated ready.
 
Tugster said:
The link is an auto link that this site applies. It takes you to the site and not to any specific product.

The link you have provided is the batteries that I am referring to in my earlier post.

Just to add, the advice given earlier stating that the batteries needed to be charged prior to use as they are not fully charged 'ready to go' it true. I had them on charge for a good hour until the Duracell charger indicated ready.
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I can see the confusion.

Look back at redhed17 post. Just before the generic green 7DayShop link, he actually provided a shortlink to the batteries in his word "I use" in blue hyperlink. This is the post you referenced, and hence why I was so confused because I can't see those batteries being LSD.

Anyway, glad we got that cleared up :thumbs:

I agree on the charging of LSDs when you first get them. I go through a full Break-In cycle when I get them.
 
Ben6 said:
Out of interest what is your break in cycle?
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Mode 3 on my Powerex C9000

"Break-In: Also known as IEC capacity measurement and "Battery Forming". Charges battery at 0.1C for 16 hours, rest for one hour, discharges battery at 0.2C, then recharges again at 0.1C for 16 hours."
 
savvy249 said:
Mode 3 on my Powerex C9000

"Break-In: Also known as IEC capacity measurement and "Battery Forming". Charges battery at 0.1C for 16 hours, rest for one hour, discharges battery at 0.2C, then recharges again at 0.1C for 16 hours."
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The powerex looks to be the best, think it'll be my next purchase.
 
adrianday said:
There may be another drawback. I recently bought another Yongnuo speedlight (YN560-III) - the manual specifically states that Ni-Zn batteries should not be used. A quick google search would seem to point to there being some risk to frying circuitry due to the higher (>1.5V) supply voltage. Clicky here for an example.
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had a quick read of that and the mixed responses make it difficult to make a conclusion either way
my experience with them in a 550ex and 580ex has been good and a friend of mine has no problems with his sb800 and 900's
considering the sb800 comes with an extra battery holder it brings the voltages similar to the NI ZN's anyway so the only question would be about capacity and for me that has never been an issue but i am not shooting hundreds of shots with flash
 
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