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Bernie174 said:
Nope,

What I have quoted you is correct, it's legislation not case law, that's something totally different.

What I omitted was the preamble which I took as read due to the fact there has been an accident.

Given that an accident, or collision as I believe it now says, has happened, there is an obligation to stop and exchange particulars, name, address etc.

IF that does not happen or there is an injury then it MUST be reported to police AS soon as practicable, and in any case within 24 hours. That does not mean go home have a chat on the internet and see what everyone else thinks, it means exactly what it says on the tin.

If no ones injured, no one is making allegations (in this case there is evidence of an offence, but if neither side want to go into it, then so be it), names/addresses were exchanged, then there is no need to report to police. But there's nothing stopping you from doing that, however, it must be within 24 hours.

I have no idea what you are on about, but its wrong. You mentioned S20 RTA 1998, which does not apply to accidents, so I am correcting and clarifying what the law actually says.
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Bernie174 said:
Simple, one car into the back of another is careless.
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Bernie174 said:
No Viv, I said, there evidence of an offence. It's much better if you read what I actually say, not what you think I said.
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So which is it, an offence or not an offence. Can't be both and still intrigued to know why.
 
boliston said:
agreed - if you cannot see something as large as a car in front of you what hope have you got of seeing a pedestrian or cyclist
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All collisions or accidents are down to someone being careless so I fail to see your point, it doesn't make it an offence.
 
So which is it, an offence or not an offence. Can't be both and still intrigued to know why.
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Rear ending a car is good evidence of careless or reckless driving. The reason being you should be a sufficient distance behind the car in front to stop if he does.
Of course few people do, and fewer still are looking beyond their bonnet.
I've never seen anyone get off with it if summonsed.

Viv asked if I was advocating prosecution of all drivers who hit someone else from behind, to which the answer was that isn't what I said or suggested.
 
viv1969 said:
PLease tell me that you don't think every rearender should be charged.
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I'll confess that just after I'd passed my driving test I went into the back of someone. Someone had been stabbed on the other side of the road, police everywhere, I looked over for too long, lights had changed ahead, went into the back of the car at the back of the light queue. 100% my fault, admitted it, exchanged details.

As there were many police over, I was asked to submit details to the police station re license and insurance. I did this, then a few months later came back from holiday for find a court summons for driving without due care and attention, driving with no license and driving with no insurance. The latter two the police station I'd provided the details of insurance and license to had not sent them on. Not sure I'd have been charged if they had, was told as the scene probably not, but who knows. I was clearly guilty of the first charge though, no disputing that, and got 3 points on my license.
 
I hit a car a couple of years ago, sat at a roundabout waiting for him to go. Saw a gap and watched him start to roll, looked right, saw another gap and went for it. Problem was, Mr hesitant in front had stopped and I hit him. It wasn't a high speed hit and the only damage to my car was a cracked number plate. Turned out their car was a write off, he got £3k and his girlfriend got £2k for their whiplash injuries. Don't you just love no win no fee companies :rolleyes:
 
Bernie174 said:
Rear ending a car is good evidence of careless or reckless driving. The reason being you should be a sufficient distance behind the car in front to stop if he does.
Of course few people do, and fewer still are looking beyond their bonnet.
I've never seen anyone get off with it if summonsed.
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I recall reading of a case where a car ran into the rear of another car at the roundabout after an exit from a motorway. They driver of the offending car claimed that the car in front was hesitant at the roundabout and may have been influenced by their vehicles decor. The magistrates agreed and the police officer was acquitted. Mind you it was some years ago so I am unable to provide other than anecdotal evidence.

It was memorable as my immediate response was "One law for them - another for us"
 
I was waiting to pull out onto a roundabout, saw a gap in the cars on the roundabout and started to move out so I could blend into the gap. The woman behind me, must have noticed me pull away but then saw the same gap herself, not realising it was the one I was going for. She accelerated a lot faster to get into the same gap and drove straight into the back of my car. My sister in-law was sat in the middle of the rear seat. She said she actually felt the back of her head touch the parcel shelf. She got around £5k compensation but still suffers pain from time to time, 19yrs later.
 
Bernie174 said:
Viv asked if I was advocating prosecution of all drivers who hit someone else from behind, to which the answer was that isn't what I said or suggested.
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Which is an evasion of the question, not an answer to it.
 
I would certainly report it to the police. They'll give you an incident number that you might well need.

I was hit about March 12 by someone reversing against the flow of traffic in a car park. I spoke to the police on my way home and they said as the lady who hit me accepted full liability then they weren't even going to log it. I got a quote for the repair then called the woman who said she didn't want to pay that much so we had to go down the insurance route. I wasn't too bothered and we contacted the insurers and I was shocked to see she had disputed liability and had logged a claim for personal injury for her and her passengers!!! I went straight to the police to report her for fraud as she was in the car herself at the time and they wouldn't get involved. They told me they couldn't do anything until she actually got money and when I asked them how they would know this the officer shrugged his shoulders and said it was for the insurers to flag to them.

2 years later my insurer settled 50/50 and as far I know her and her passengers could be spending ill gotten gains whilst the police do nothing at all.

Lesson learned. Report everything in detail just in case.
 
no need to report to police.
 
For once, Im going to stick up for insurance companies. I had a non fault crash in 2012, which caused injury to myself. Eventual cost was around the £30k mark after treatment and car repairs. I was dreading my next insurance renewal which coincidently was due not long after it was all settled. My renewal was actually lower than the previous year. Also, the 2013 renewal was lower again.

So they don't always shaft you after a crash if you claim.
 
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