Re: sports photography (raw or jpeg)

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Hi,

I'm doing some sport photography over the weekend for a soccer team I have the 70-200 and teleconverter but unsure should I shoot in either raw or jpeg without my d90 Nikon camera buffer acting up .

Should I shoot burst mode also any help and tips very much appreciated

Thank you
 
From the wording I presume you have been booked and maybe being paid for this or are you just going along to 'have a go'???
 
Hi

No not getting paid for it doing it for the experience really
 
shane1980 said:
Gary get a life
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For christs sake Shane, listen up before you get shirty and spit the dummy out, i was giving you 100% genuine advice to get a Mod to move the topic to the correct section, this is the wrong section, there is a specific talk sport section for discussing this exact sort of thing and as a semi professional sports photographer i would have given you the advice you sought but if you want to give a muppet reply then fair enough, just dont expect any help from me and im sure your muppet reply will also disaffect other pro/semi pro togs as well

A simple look at the number of replies you had with advice (none) should have told you i was right. :cuckoo:

And i see that someone took my advice and asked a Mod to move it to the correct forum, now wait and see if you get replies, im sure you will because its now in the correct section. DOHHHHHHH
 
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Well Shane just to give you a semi decent answer :D If it were me then shoot RAW if you are comfortable using any relevant software you have for editing. I do not know the Nikons but would imagine that using burst mode should not cause you problems, that is unless you keep your finger on it and dont let go ;) If you are experimenting with this type of photography then perhaps consider (Depending where you are on the side lines :shrug: ) to perhaps not use the converter all the time. There will always be that shot that you wished you had it on or not had it on. Without it it will obviously give you the advantage of using a higher shutter speed, go back home and when you look through them you can then decide what gives you the best results.
 
Sorry, I moved it earlier when I was having a read through the forums and was going to post that I'd moved it but got called away

Shane, please don't tell people to get a life when they're trying to help

Thanks :)
 
Gary Coyle said:
For christs sake Shane, listen up before you get shirty and spit the dummy out, i was giving you 100% genuine advice to get a Mod to move the topic to the correct section, this is the wrong section, there is a specific talk sport section for discussing this exact sort of thing and as a semi professional sports photographer i would have given you the advice you sought but if you want to give a muppet reply then fair enough, just dont expect any help from me and im sure your muppet reply will also disaffect other pro/semi pro togs as well

A simple look at the number of replies you had with advice (none) should have told you i was right. :cuckoo:

And i see that someone took my advice and asked a Mod to move it to the correct forum
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And there is imo a more polite way of pointing someone in the right direction Gary.

Perhaps :shrug: You might find this the wrong section Shane. Try asking a Mod to move it and I am sure they will oblige. Simples!!
 
Let's get this back on topic and not start quibbling now please
 
u8myufo said:
And there is imo a more polite way of pointing someone in the right direction Gary.

Perhaps :shrug: You might find this the wrong section Shane. Try asking a Mod to move it and I am sure they will oblige. Simples!!
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Long winded replies like that arent that easy with my fat fingers when replying on a phones tiny keypad hence the simplicity of my original post :bang:
 
shane1980 said:
Gary get a life
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Gosh, that really makes me want to pass on advice.

It's people like you that made me remove my tutorial, and when people PM me asking why, I'll be sure to point out your crap attitude in this thread.
 
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Rich has given good advice, I have no idea what real relevance it has to your question if your getting paid or not is.

The main reason a sport tog would shoot in jpeg is the need to get the shots off to the picture editor quicky, ie as it happens. Now if this is not an issue for your shoot, then I would shoot in raw, just to give you that little bit of extra leeway as you gain sports photography experiance.

As Rich says so long you dont just press and spray (keeping the shutter button pressed) then the buffer should not be a problem. In time it will get easier to get your timming right to capture the moment of action, but I'd certainly use burst mode at the start.


I will add the Gary's first post did come across a bit blunt, probably unintentionaly
 
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Gary,

I took you up wrong Garry my apologys... didn't realise there was separate section..

Thanks for help mate
 
kelack said:
Sorry, I moved it earlier when I was having a read through the forums and was going to post that I'd moved it but got called away

Shane, please don't tell people to get a life when they're trying to help

Thanks :)
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He wasn't helping if you read his reply more carefully...
 
As a relatively newcomer to sport photography I started with RAW but soon got bored with all the PP that I had to do. I now shoot Jpeg and apply some standard settings in Lightroom 3 when importing, leaving me to crop/straighten and the odd exposure adjustment.
I also use continuous shooting to improve the chance of getting the timing spot on.

Get low as possible when shooting and try and anticipate where the action will be. Golden rule is normally to have the players face and ball in shot and no wonky horizons/verticals.
 
Reading between the lines, it meant you will get more answers if you post in the dedicated talk sports forum.

There is still no need to tell someone to get a life. We're a friendly forum and if you are offended by anyone's comments on here, you can hit the RTM button and we will deal with it
 
kelack said:
Reading between the lines, it meant you will get more answers if you post in the dedicated talk sports forum.

There is still no need to tell someone to get a life. We're a friendly forum and if you are offended by anyone's comments on here, you can hit the RTM button and we will deal with it
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No need for RTM button as this is a very good forum and it's merely nothing I got my answers in relation to my question and I'm greatful to those *** thank you
 
If it helps, getting back on track, I do events and NEVER use RAW. This type of stuff isn't fine art. Secret is getting it right in camera 1st time (in events we don't have time to do endless buggering about in P.shop) Try jpeg, get ISO up so can use fast shutter to freeze action and also adjust saturation, sharpness etc a bit. Start using 'machine gun' to get the shot but you will find you get better after a while. Oh - and Enjoy.....
 
A couple of replies have said they don't shoot RAW because there is too much extra pp work afterwards, well I don't understand this.

You shoot jpeg, import images from card to Lightroom/Aperture
You Crop image and do any other necessary adjustment
You Export from Lightroom/Aperture

You shoot RAW, import images from card to Lightroom/Aperture
You Crop image and do any other necessary adjustment
You Export from Lightroom/Aperture


I don't see were you HAVE to do any extra PP work, unless your going straight from card to printer or client
 
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whiteflyer said:
A couple of replies have said they don't shoot RAW because there is too much extra pp work afterwards, well I don't understand this.

You shoot jpeg, import images from card to Lightroom/Aperture
You Crop image and do any other necessary adjustment
You Export from Lightroom/Aperture

You shoot RAW, import images from card to Lightroom/Aperture
You Crop image and do any other necessary adjustment
You Export from Lightroom/Aperture


I don't see were you HAVE to do any extra PP work, unless your going straight from card to printer or client
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Its not so much any extra time for PP but more the extra time it takes to download the large RAW files and then convert them to Jpeg. any time you can shave off this time is a bonus, theres also the buffer to contend with when shooting RAW.
 
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Gary Coyle said:
Its not so much any extra time for PP but more the extra time it takes to download the large RAW files and then convert them to Jpeg. any time you can shave off this time is a bonus, theres also the buffer to contend with when shooting RAW.
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Hmm Maybe, but a fast card will elevate any buffer issues, unless your shooting dozens of shots per burst and continually shooting those bursts (nobody is shooting 10fps for 90 mins in a game (54,000 images a match)) :) , and also with a fast reader (Firewire/ USB3) your only talking a couple of mins extra for a 16GB card, which unless your sending to client from pitchside/ground media center, is neither here nor there.

After the quick cull in LR or Apeture how many shot are people actually converting back to jpeg, we are not sending a few hundred shots to the newspapers every match .
 
I shoot RAW but I do have a least a day before I have to submit 6 - 8 images into the local paper.

I have a RAW workflow that suits me.

You may or maynot find this video interesting.
 
I only shoot Jpeg now, I always get 90% of it correct in camera dn Jpegs allow any PP if needed to get the desired effects I may want to adjust

I work in Jpeg to when submitting to papers, never felt the need to go back to RAW, I have only shot RAW for things like player profile pictures or team photos at the start of the season, nothing since
 
DemiLion said:
He hasn't been taken up there wrongly for an awfully long time!!!!!! :lol:
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But heck he enjoys when it does happen......

Sgt_Bilko99 said:
I now shoot Jpeg and apply some standard settings in Lightroom 3 when importing, leaving me to crop/straighten and the odd exposure adjustment
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What standard settings out of interest Dave?
 
P-E said:
I shoot RAW but I do have a least a day before I have to submit 6 - 8 images into the local paper.

I have a RAW workflow that suits me.

You may or maynot find this video interesting.
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Hadn't seen that all the way through before, but if shooting RAW and using Aperture is good enough for John McDermott then is good enough for me :)

Some good tips throughout that groups of videos.
 
P-E said:
I shoot RAW but I do have a least a day before I have to submit 6 - 8 images into the local paper.

I have a RAW workflow that suits me.

You may or maynot find this video interesting.
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Great video very interesting thanks for that :)
 
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