RAW Problem..

[fraggle101]

Guys, iv just processed 70+ RAW files.. its taken ages!!

My first question is, the Clarity slider, i know its to adjust shharpness, but, if you adjust it and then convert to Jpeg and try and sharpen will it OVER do it?? i.e. will it take it to its limit on the sharpness front??

Second question..

Once iv processed the files i used PS3 to batch convert to Jpeg.. the thing is, when i did, the RAW's reverted back to their origional point!! it didnt save the changes!!! even the processed Jpegs havent got the changes..

What have i done wrong???

 

[fraggle101]

I think iv found what id done.. i didnt click Save Image.. i just clicked DONE!! its funnt though as it had saved them untill id done the batch conversion!! i dont know why it would have done that..

Whats the best file type to save it as?? it defaults to .dng but do i tick the box that says Embed original Raw file?? or not??

Compressed (Lossless) do i tick that too??

 

[fraggle101]

OMG... Im an IDIOT!!! when you process a RAW it leavs a .xmp file... could it be THAT that keeps the changes??? :bang:

I DELETED THEM!!!!!!!!!

Im gonna fish them out of the Recycle bin and see what happends..

 

[fraggle101]

Well, what do you know.. its all ok!! lol.. i need to goto photoshop school!!! lol

 

[Ugs]

OMG... Im an IDIOT!!! when you process a RAW it leavs a .xmp file... could it be THAT that keeps the changes??? :bang:

I DELETED THEM!!!!!!!!!

Im gonna fish them out of the Recycle bin and see what happends..

You are not the only one to do that - I also deleted them the first time I saw them ......

 

[Tattoo]

Guys, iv just processed 70+ RAW files.. its taken ages!!

My first question is, the Clarity slider, i know its to adjust shharpness, but, if you adjust it and then convert to Jpeg and try and sharpen will it OVER do it?? i.e. will it take it to its limit on the sharpness front??

Second question..

Once iv processed the files i used PS3 to batch convert to Jpeg.. the thing is, when i did, the RAW's reverted back to their origional point!! it didnt save the changes!!! even the processed Jpegs havent got the changes..

What have i done wrong???

I think iv found what id done.. i didnt click Save Image.. i just clicked DONE!! its funnt though as it had saved them untill id done the batch conversion!! i dont know why it would have done that..

Whats the best file type to save it as?? it defaults to .dng but do i tick the box that says Embed original Raw file?? or not??

Compressed (Lossless) do i tick that too??

OMG... Im an IDIOT!!! when you process a RAW it leavs a .xmp file... could it be THAT that keeps the changes??? :bang:

I DELETED THEM!!!!!!!!!

Im gonna fish them out of the Recycle bin and see what happends..

Well, what do you know.. its all ok!! lol.. i need to goto photoshop school!!! lol

Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.
Looks like you sorted your problem thought.

 

[pxl8]

My first question is, the Clarity slider, i know its to adjust shharpness, but, if you adjust it and then convert to Jpeg and try and sharpen will it OVER do it?? i.e. will it take it to its limit on the sharpness front??

The Clarity Slider adjusts local contrast, it's a bit like using USM with a large radius. It won't have an effect on sharpening as it's changes the image data over a much wider area.

 

[fraggle101]

You are not the only one to do that - I also deleted them the first time I saw them ......

Phew! im not alone then! lol, im just getting the hang of thisRAW stuff.. mind you, Editing in general is giving me a headache!!

Talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.
Looks like you sorted your problem thought.

And answering yourself is the second!! i KNOW now stop it!! Righto then..

The Clarity Slider adjusts local contrast, it's a bit like using USM with a large radius. It won't have an effect on sharpening as it's changes the image data over a much wider area.

Thanks for that pxl8, so i can still do some sharpening?? only i tryed the Smart sharpen as u can adjust how much ect and it didnt seem to do much.. other than go grainy when at 100% zoom..

Thanks guys...

 

[pxl8]

Your raw processor (ACR or LR I'm guessing) will do some sharpening by default anyway and this is a good place to adjust the "capture sharpening" to compensate for the AA filter over the sensor. Any further sharpening really depends on the use - after re-sizing for web maybe, or printing, etc. and the settings will really depend on the image, the size and the output device. It's really a case of playing around and seeing what works best. A good trick is to overcook the sharpening and then ease it back until it looks right.

 

[fraggle101]

at the moment my way is to goto filter-Sharpen and do it till it goes off and then step back till the bad bits are gone.. in the RAW converter there is the Clarity slide then in a seperate tab there is sharpening, iv used that too but with not much difference.. i'll keep on playing with it till i break something..

Thx for the advice..

 

[pxl8]

The sharpening in ACR is only visible at 100% zoom, same with noise reduction and other detail settings.

 

[fraggle101]

So hoe do you see the difference on the final image?? would you need to enlarge to postwer size to see it at 100% in PS??

Sorry for the dumb ass questions.. i really should get on a ps course!! lol..

 

[Shutterman]

Hi

We I compare my images I have the original open as well as the modified imaged then all I do is zoom in to the images at the same zoom value and evaluate. I just use the zoom tool.

This normally gives you a good representation and shows any halos or anything else.

Regards

Nigel.

 

[pxl8]

So hoe do you see the difference on the final image?? would you need to enlarge to postwer size to see it at 100% in PS??

Sorry for the dumb ass questions.. i really should get on a ps course!! lol..

The sharpening at the raw conversion stage is really just to compensate for the softening caused by the AA filter. Some people prefer to turn it off and do it later in PS, I generally leave it on the default setting.

To answer the question you have to zoom in because your display is made up of a number of fixed sized pixels so you can't view a 3000+px wide image without scaling. When you print the image you will see all the pixels at once. So you zoom in to assess the sharpening you need for the output device, some printers need a bit more than others but it depends on a lot of factors and it's really trial and error to see what will give the best results for your workflow.

 

[fraggle101]

Oh, i see.. so what you may not notice when viewing the image (Not zoomed) could well show up on the print because the printer shows most if not ALL of the pixels.. i get it..

Im starting to learn .. lol.. still gotta learn the HOW'S..

Thx guys..