R5 mk2

Well well well. Kettle pot. How just RANTED about kit made for bigger hands. Oh ... that's YOU

If you think the below is ranting, then I'd hate to see your reaction when someone is angry :) - I am just questioning the presumption in the original post that its a problem - which is a totally legitimate stance to take. Feel free to disagree, but I fail to see how either of my posts were "ranting".

As someone with smaller hands I am appreciative that I can reach the DOF preview/stop down button without taking my hand off the camera..... Why should everything be built for people with big hands?
 
I really don’t get the ‘big hands’ issue with cameras.
According to glove manufacturers my hands are Large, and I’ve never had a problem with the handling of any camera. Whether the Fuji XE1 or a pro DSLR.

I think there’s always been so much nonsense talked about camera size.

The ‘small’ 6d which is comparable to the R5 and 6 is bigger than an AE1p, which was apparently a perfect size decades ago, but smaller than the EOS 5, which was also a perfect size. :thinking:

Early DSLR’s were ‘too big’ even though they were similar in size to the EOS5. And as soon as they got smaller, but still bigger than film SLR’s they became too small. :headbang:

So is the problem the size of cameras? Or simply that people now believe that if something isn’t exactly what they wish it to be, it’s WRONG.
 
I really don’t get the ‘big hands’ issue with cameras.
According to glove manufacturers my hands are Large, and I’ve never had a problem with the handling of any camera. Whether the Fuji XE1 or a pro DSLR.

I think there’s always been so much nonsense talked about camera size.

The ‘small’ 6d which is comparable to the R5 and 6 is bigger than an AE1p, which was apparently a perfect size decades ago, but smaller than the EOS 5, which was also a perfect size. :thinking:

Early DSLR’s were ‘too big’ even though they were similar in size to the EOS5. And as soon as they got smaller, but still bigger than film SLR’s they became too small. :headbang:

So is the problem the size of cameras? Or simply that people now believe that if something isn’t exactly what they wish it to be, it’s WRONG.
I think we can adapt to most things, however we do have a preference. For example I can use small cameras such as the Sony RX100 but it does feel small and fiddly. That doesn't mean it's not useable of course.

What I don't get is people who buy something and then moan about it. I get that not everyone has access to a store to try before you buy, but I would hazard a guess most people do. And for those that don't you have 14 days to return if you don't like it :thinking:
 
I think we can adapt to most things, however we do have a preference. For example I can use small cameras such as the Sony RX100 but it does feel small and fiddly. That doesn't mean it's not useable of course.

What I don't get is people who buy something and then moan about it. I get that not everyone has access to a store to try before you buy, but I would hazard a guess most people do. And for those that don't you have 14 days to return if you don't like it :thinking:
TBF I very quickly replaced all my short EF lenses with RF, because the added weight and size just felt ‘wrong’. An adaptor that almost doubles the weight and length of a 50mm is unwieldy to me.

I don’t really notice the extra when using telephotos, so thankfully I don’t have to replace those.
 
TBF I very quickly replaced all my short EF lenses with RF, because the added weight and size just felt ‘wrong’. An adaptor that almost doubles the weight and length of a 50mm is unwieldy to me.

I don’t really notice the extra when using telephotos, so thankfully I don’t have to replace those.
I must admit, I felt the same way about the adapter when I used the 50L on the R3. I was very impressed with how a lens that I'd have to take three frames to ensure one in focus would nail it every time but still give a less clinical look that it's modern version.

I also agree with you about the size thing even though I disliked the R6 partly due to its size, I think it was a combination of things that put me off. Mt current digital kit is probably smaller.
 
TBF I very quickly replaced all my short EF lenses with RF, because the added weight and size just felt ‘wrong’. An adaptor that almost doubles the weight and length of a 50mm is unwieldy to me.

I don’t really notice the extra when using telephotos, so thankfully I don’t have to replace those.
I get it, but haven't found that to be a problem. I'm still only at 2 RF lenses - 85 1.2 and 135 1.8.
 
XXXL paws (according to my almost too tight gloves) but have no problems using my RX-100 or Fuji X-T? bodies.
 
I get it, but haven't found that to be a problem. I'm still only at 2 RF lenses - 85 1.2 and 135 1.8.
Almost as soon as I got the R6 I bought the 50 and 85 because I hated the adaptor on 2 of my most used lenses.
Since then I bought the 24-70 (my retirement present to myself) and the 16mm as it was a bargain whilst buying the zoom.

And I’m now eyeing up the 70-200 f4 as I’ve recently spent a lot of time using my old 2.8 and I really think the weight saving is worth the spend. It’s about a kilo lighter :oops: :$
 
Almost as soon as I got the R6 I bought the 50 and 85 because I hated the adaptor on 2 of my most used lenses.
Since then I bought the 24-70 (my retirement present to myself) and the 16mm as it was a bargain whilst buying the zoom.

And I’m now eyeing up the 70-200 f4 as I’ve recently spent a lot of time using my old 2.8 and I really think the weight saving is worth the spend. It’s about a kilo lighter :oops: :$
Thanks Phil. How do you rate the 24-70 vs the EF mark 2?
 
Thanks Phil. How do you rate the 24-70 vs the EF mark 2?
I never owned the EF version - long story, my std zoom was the 17-55, then I started using primes almost exclusively.
But I find the RF faultless, but that’s what I’d expect for the price.
Actually it’s better than I expected, it’s now on the camera almost always. And generally I only use other lenses when I’m carrying 2 bodies.
 
I think it is all personal preference.

I have OM1 bodies and recently purchased the Z8 (after trying the Sony A74 and canon R6 mk2 / R5 mk 2).

The om1 is as small as I would go and similar to the Sonys. I found the Sonys to be too small though and my fingers were squished between the grip and the lens. When my knuckle only just fits between the grip and the lens barrel then it’s a no from me. This isn’t the case with the OM1, although I do find the buttons small for my fingers.

R6 mkii was ok and felt no better or worse than my OM1. The R5 mk2 felt really nice and chunky and would have been my choice out of the two.

The Z8 for me is great. It’s massive and everything is spaced well. Reminds me of my original LUMIX S1 that I absolutely loved. Not held a Z9 or R1/3 but would imagine I would enjoy those also.
 
I think it is all personal preference.

I have OM1 bodies and recently purchased the Z8 (after trying the Sony A74 and canon R6 mk2 / R5 mk 2).

The om1 is as small as I would go and similar to the Sonys. I found the Sonys to be too small though and my fingers were squished between the grip and the lens. When my knuckle only just fits between the grip and the lens barrel then it’s a no from me. This isn’t the case with the OM1, although I do find the buttons small for my fingers.

R6 mkii was ok and felt no better or worse than my OM1. The R5 mk2 felt really nice and chunky and would have been my choice out of the two.

The Z8 for me is great. It’s massive and everything is spaced well. Reminds me of my original LUMIX S1 that I absolutely loved. Not held a Z9 or R1/3 but would imagine I would enjoy those also.
I’m surprised you found the gap between the grip and lens too small on the A7IV. Mark III and older I definitely struggled with this but not anymore. The A1 II and A9 III have even more distance between the grip and lens so I’d imagine other future Sony bodies to follow suit. I guess we’ll see later this year (probably) when the A7V comes out.
 
I’m surprised you found the gap between the grip and lens too small on the A7IV. Mark III and older I definitely struggled with this but not anymore. The A1 II and A9 III have even more distance between the grip and lens so I’d imagine other future Sony bodies to follow suit. I guess we’ll see later this year (probably) when the A7V comes out.
No my knuckle was resting on the lens but we are all built differently, so what works for one may not work for the other :)

The Z8 and R5 mkii feel good, solid and chunky which I like. Others may feel completely differently and that is absolutely fine.
 
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I'm really liking my Olympus EM1X coupled with the OM Systems 100-400 Mk2 lens.

A really comfortable combination.
 
The most popular SLR of all time was the OM10, 136 x 83 x 50 m
The R5 which is ‘too small’ 138.5 x 97.5 x 88mm
 
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The most popular SLR of all time was the OM10, 136 x 83 x 50 m
The R5 which is ‘too small’ 138.5 x 97.5 x 88mm
I have Om4 ti and that feels more ergonomic in the hand than the r5 mk2.
Treated myself to a rf24-70mm f2.8 instead of using my ef version with a adapter. Now I have noticed the gap between the new rf lens and grip is very small,fingers only just fit in the gap.
 
I moved from. Canon 5D MkII to the R5 and love it.
You have to spend some time getting bused to the menus and options which are not radically different but technology has moved on (positively)

Love the MP and auto focus/tracking.

No issues with size.

You will have to factor in the change in memory cards and I’d also say extra batteries especially if using tracking a lot.

I have a mix of RF and EF (+ adapters) lenses. I changed my 24-105 as it’s my most used lens and my EF version was getting a little tired. I’ve kept my 100-400 for now as the usage scenarios don’t make the adapter too onerous.

LR will be slower due to the file size but not to the point it is unusable etc.
 
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