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Any one recently switched from DSLR to canon r5 or r5 mk2?
I got my last new camera over 12 years ago which was a canon 5d mk3 and a 1d mkIV.
For my 60th i thought i would treat myself to a new body and a ef to rf lens adapter for all ef L glass.
Then there was the added expense of a new cfexspess memory card and reader and then software to edit the images.

I use lightroom the last version you could buy on disc so no support for r5. So went with ON1. No subscripions for me.

When i first got the camera i was very disappointed with the size and quality of build.
Does canon think peoples hands have got smaller.
To make things worse the added more buttons moved the control wheel and made it smaller.
And dont even go there with canons battery grips. I dont think they have built a decent battery grip since the film days.
My eos 1V and and eos 3 battery grips look like and feel like the camera and grip are 1. Even my eos 5 with its vertical grip feels amazing (no extra battery).

Any one else have these thoughts or any other issues moving from dslr to mirrorless.
 
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I went from Canon 6D mk2 and 7D2 to an R5 4 years ago, I am still using EF lenses haven’t felt I needed to change to RF and it would be expensive anyway
No regrets at all
No real issues the camera was complicated to setup but that’s because it can do so much, I have got used to it now
My camera had the random lockup issue but Canon and Panamoz were excellent and anyway your mk 2 does not have that issue as far as I know
See what you mean about body size , I have got used to the controls now
I still use my 6D as a second body the autofocus on the 6D isn’t in the same league as the R5 but its ok for what I do, wildlife and macro
 
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Whinge, moan, grumble, groan.

If it's so bloody awful, sell it and buy something else.

Oh, wait, if you did that you would have nothing to gripe about.
 
Or:
This new camera is fantastic.
A better quality sensor than the previous DSLR’s, and a focus and shooting rate faster than the best of the 1 series cameras.

Its ergonomics leave a little to be desired and it doesn’t appear to have the build quality. Though there’s no body of evidence they fall apart. So let’s consider that the older DSLR’s and previous semi pro SLR’s might just have been over engineered
 
John_L said:
Whinge, moan, grumble, groan.

If it's so bloody awful, sell it and buy something else.

Oh, wait, if you did that you would have nothing to gripe about.
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OH you must have small hands. well make some things you hold look bigger
 
@ard-tullaich I find the ergonomics of the larger bodies much better and enjoyed using the R5 with the basic canon battery grips. Last year I switched from R5s to R1s. If you prefer the larger body try the R3 or event the R1?

The 5DM3 is an amazing camera and I remember using a colleague's 1DXM4 too. But there's no doubt that the R5 M1/2 is so much better in every way.
 
I think I go against the grain, I have large hands but prefer smaller camera bodies, I find it more comfortable and more secure to have my little finger wrap under the body :thinking:
 
Smallrig bracket thing fixes the size issue. You just throw away the sticking out l part. It is not ideal to have to resort to it but at least it works well enough to make the camera usable.

Wait until you discover limitations of rf mount, and prices of canon rf lenses and their specs
 
snerkler said:
I think I go against the grain, I have large hands but prefer smaller camera bodies, I find it more comfortable and more secure to have my little finger wrap under the body :thinking:
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Errrr..... Hell no
 
TimHughes said:
@ard-tullaich I find the ergonomics of the larger bodies much better and enjoyed using the R5 with the basic canon battery grips. Last year I switched from R5s to R1s. If you prefer the larger body try the R3 or event the R1?

The 5DM3 is an amazing camera and I remember using a colleague's 1DXM4 too. But there's no doubt that the R5 M1/2 is so much better in every way.
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I would have gone for the R1 but i was looking for the 45mp sensor. I nearly pulled the trigger on the nikon z9 with an ef adapter but i got drawn to the R5mk2
My perfect camera would be the R3 with the workings of r5mk2.
I only paid £2720 new for my R5mk2 which is cheaper than you can get a new R5 in the uk. I Know i would never have paid the full uk asking price of around £4500.
One thing that has impressed me is how sharp and quick focusing my ef L lens are with the r5mk2.
 
And dont get me started on the useless eye focusing feature. It dosnt work and never has on my eos 3 still going strong after buying it 26 years ago, but i was willing to give it a go on the r5 mk2 but so far every time i go to use it it needs recalibrating even after saving it.
loving the autofocus tracking on the R5mk2
 
ard-tullaich said:
And dont get me started on the useless eye focusing feature. It dosnt work and never has on my eos 3 still going strong after buying it 26 years ago, but i was willing to give it a go on the r5 mk2 but so far every time i go to use it it needs recalibrating even after saving it.
loving the autofocus tracking on the R5mk2
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I find the eye control reliable and extremely useful - much quicker to change the autofocus point.
 
As someone with smaller hands I am appreciative that I can reach the DOF preview/stop down button without taking my hand off the camera..... Why should everything be built for people with big hands?
 
snerkler said:
For me that Z8 is one of the worst bodies I've handled, from an ergonomic point of view :thinking:
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I'm "ergonomically loyal" to canon due to muscle memory my brain is wired to the button layout and menus. Trying to use Nikon or Sony is like typing with a scrambled keyboard. I have Fuji too and that has taken a long time to get used to, and I'm still not as fast as with canon.
 
So you clearly didn't try the camera in your hands before buying it, user error. :ROFLMAO:

I had no issue going from the 5D Mk IV to the mirrorless range. I love the R5 Mk 1 and have never felt it's too small in my hands.
I have the R3 and R1 which I use for sports and I do prefer the feel of these bodies, especially the ability to switch to portrait and have all the controls at my hand, but I don't look at the R5 in a negative way.

The R5 has been out for years now and I've not seen any reports of manufacturing / build issues so I think you're crying about nothing.

Battery grip - I have the grip for the R5. What's your problem with it or are you just looking for something to moan about?

At the end of the day, if you don't like it, sell it. :)
 
TimHughes said:
I'm "ergonomically loyal" to canon due to muscle memory my brain is wired to the button layout and menus. Trying to use Nikon or Sony is like typing with a scrambled keyboard. I have Fuji too and that has taken a long time to get used to, and I'm still not as fast as with canon.
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100% the same for me :ROFLMAO:

I covered for a photographer while they took a break, my camera was all packed away so I used their Nikon, felt very strange!!!

It'll be interesting to see how I manage with the Hasselblad when I get it.
 
TimHughes said:
I'm "ergonomically loyal" to canon due to muscle memory my brain is wired to the button layout and menus. Trying to use Nikon or Sony is like typing with a scrambled keyboard. I have Fuji too and that has taken a long time to get used to, and I'm still not as fast as with canon.
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I was using a Sony camera at work for a while and whilst Canon’s menu system isn’t perfect, the Sony was seemed incompressible. I was also sorely tempted by a X100VI for travel and learning different menu systems and buttons was one of the things that put me off - you really take for granted how you can just to do much stuff without taking your eye away from the viewfinder.

I went from a 5d3/4 to a r6ii and don’t notice too much difference - to me the biggest determining factor for ergonomics is really lens weight - which when too heavy can make it feel a bit unbalanced
 
TimHughes said:
I'm "ergonomically loyal" to canon due to muscle memory my brain is wired to the button layout and menus. Trying to use Nikon or Sony is like typing with a scrambled keyboard. I have Fuji too and that has taken a long time to get used to, and I'm still not as fast as with canon.
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I was a Nikon shooter for quite some time so am used to their bodies. I was in the minority that prefered the body of the D750 over the D800 and D850.
 
Hanley said:
100% the same for me :ROFLMAO:

I covered for a photographer while they took a break, my camera was all packed away so I used their Nikon, felt very strange!!!

It'll be interesting to see how I manage with the Hasselblad when I get it.
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Same here.
I had to photograph my friends wedding and he was a wedding photographer.
He insisted i use his Nikon gear and with only 48 hours notice to familiarize myself with it. Changing lenses was bad enough !!!
 
A_S said:
As someone with smaller hands I am appreciative that I can reach the DOF preview/stop down button without taking my hand off the camera..... Why should everything be built for people with big hands?
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Why should everything be built for people with tiny hands?
 
A_S said:
As someone with smaller hands I am appreciative that I can reach the DOF preview/stop down button without taking my hand off the camera..... Why should everything be built for people with big hands?
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LongLensPhotography said:
Why should everything be built for people with tiny hands?
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Plenty of variety out there, just choose what suits you best (y)
 
LongLensPhotography said:
Why should everything be built for people with tiny hands?
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It shouldn't, but the implication that "I have big hands, therefore everyone thinks this camera is too small" is to presume your own opinion is the consensus which it isn't - especially as its the only part of the ranting post in big bold letters!.
 
Hanley said:
Regarding the ergonomics, I would imagine a company with a market value of £29 billion would have done significant research when designing these products
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You'd have thought so but it took Sony 4 generations before they designed a half decent body :ROFLMAO:
 
LongLensPhotography said:
Why should everything be built for people with tiny hands?
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From a design viewpoint, a body than smaller hands can handle is easily bulked up to fit larger hands but it's harder to shave a large body down for smaller ones.
 
A_S said:
It shouldn't, but the implication that "I have big hands, therefore everyone thinks this camera is too small" is to presume your own opinion is the consensus which it isn't - especially as its the only part of the ranting post in big bold letters!.
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Well well well. Kettle pot. How just RANTED about kit made for bigger hands. Oh ... that's YOU
 
snerkler said:
Plenty of variety out there, just choose what suits you best (y)
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sure there is Z8 or Z8 or Z8... oh wait... that is not choice
 
snerkler said:
You'd have thought so but it took Sony 4 generations before they designed a half decent body :ROFLMAO:
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half-decent is the key here. I like the functionality of A1 and A9 III but hell they all feel awkward in hand. It is not just the small size. it is that funny weird sculpting.... They better get A7V up to spec; A1 is not really affordable as the lowest decent model in the lineup!
 
LongLensPhotography said:
half-decent is the key here. I like the functionality of A1 and A9 III but hell they all feel awkward in hand. It is not just the small size. it is that funny weird sculpting.... They better get A7V up to spec; A1 is not really affordable as the lowest decent model in the lineup!
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For me I now prefer Sony bodies over any other I've tried including cameras like the R5 II, Z8, Z7 and many others. I've not tried the big body cameras like the Z9 and R1 as I've never liked these.
 
snerkler said:
For me I now prefer Sony bodies over any other I've tried including cameras like the R5 II, Z8, Z7 and many others. I've not tried the big body cameras like the Z9 and R1 as I've never liked these.
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Z9 style bodies are best for event and sports photographers. I could see myself wanting one if I heavily pivoted to portraits and did a lot in vertical orientation. If you rely heavily on tripod vertical grip is blocked by tripod plate from handholding and it only gets in the way.... So pretty much a no from me for current work.
 
Being a long time 5D series user I always preferred the 1D bodies for their size but for the work I do, they were massive overkill. I don't do sports or fast moving things. I find the R6 a bit......toy like in the hand and I personally dislike an EVF. The R5 is better but again, possibly too many MP for my standard uses (although I could live with it). I rented the R3 recently on a Canon test drive and it hit a lot of positive things. Better size, MP sweet spot, my 50L focussed better than it ever has on a DSLR but.....it's still not for me. It's a bit too.....good?! A bit soulless. So I didn't buy one.

The Canon Try The Kit is free and a risk free way of seeing if they are for you or not.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
Z9 style bodies are best for event and sports photographers. I could see myself wanting one if I heavily pivoted to portraits and did a lot in vertical orientation. If you rely heavily on tripod vertical grip is blocked by tripod plate from handholding and it only gets in the way.... So pretty much a no from me for current work.
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Again I'm against the grain in that I find it quicker and easier to just rotate the camera as opposed to having a battery grip :thinking:
 
snerkler said:
Again I'm against the grain in that I find it quicker and easier to just rotate the camera as opposed to having a battery grip :thinking:
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do you not find it harder to maintain decent horizon and camera shake definitely tends to creep up a bit earlier than usual.... probably depends on the lens also
 
LongLensPhotography said:
do you not find it harder to maintain decent horizon and camera shake definitely tends to creep up a bit earlier than usual.... probably depends on the lens also
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Can’t say I’ve noticed either issue.
 
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