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Ive around £500 to spend on a new DSLR, im upgrading from my old Samsung GX-1S. Ive got my eye on the Canon 450d and the Nikon D60.

I saw someone saying that the D60 doesnt have an internal motor to auto focus a lens or something similar? (I may be completely wrong!) So your lens choices are somewhat limited?

If this is correct, does the Canon have the same problem?

I'd also appreciate any advice regarding what to buy. Im trying to gather as much info as possible so i can make a well informed decision :thumbs:

P.s i prefer the feel of the Canon!

Thanks
 
Yes the Nikon requires lens with built in motors.

From Nikon these are the AF-S range, Sigma HSM and Tamron just label them 'with AF motor'

The 450D will have the motor in the body.
 
Canon and Nikon have different approaches to autofocus.

With the Canon system, the AF motor is always in the lens. The coupling between the camera and the lens is fully electronic. The camera body tells the lens what to do, and the lens does it. All Canon bodies and all lenses work the same way.

Nikon started out doing it differently. Their first generation AF system had the AF motor in the camera body, and a mechanical coupling between the body and the lens. So the body did all the work. Nikon lenses which don't have a focus motor in them are designated "AF" or "AF-D".

But more recently, Nikon have been moving over to an approach which is essentially the same as Canon's: AF motor in the lens, and electronic coupling between body and lens. Lenses with the AF motor in them are designated "AF-S".

But where it gets messy is that (a) Nikon haven't stopped making AF(-D) lenses; and (b) some of the lower-spec Nikon bodies don't have an AF motor in them. The D60 doesn't. (Nor does the D40 or D40x.) So these bodies can only use AF-S lenses; AF(-D) lenses will physically fit but won't autofocus.
 
if you decide on canon then go for the 500d, much better than 450d
 
Hate to tell you this, but you're not going to be able to tell much of a difference in the quality of images produced from either of the two cameras you mention, over your GX-1S.

What is it about the Pentax mount-based cameras you don't like? Do you already have some money invested in good lenses.

It is only my opinion but you need to be moving to D90/40D territory (or actually even an older 20D or 30D) to gain any automatic improvement in picture quality.

Cheers,
James
 
Moos3h said:
Hate to tell you this, but you're not going to be able to tell much of a difference in the quality of images produced from either of the two cameras you mention, over your GX-1S.

What is it about the Pentax mount-based cameras you don't like? Do you already have some money invested in good lenses.

It is only my opinion but you need to be moving to D90/40D territory (or actually even an older 20D or 30D) to gain any automatic improvement in picture quality.

Cheers,
James
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Its not that i dont like the camera. Here are a few reasons :

- Im looking at Canon/Nikon as i plan to keep this camera for a while. Both these manafacturers have a huge amount of accessoried for them, all avaliable to me as and when i wish to build my arsenal!

- The Samsung is very slow at picking up an image sometimes (Obviously more so in low light)

- Autofocus isnt as sharp as i believe a Nikon/Canon would be

- The GX-1S is roughly 4 years old i believe? The features in the Canon/Nikon outweigh what the Samsung has to offer.

- I have some spare cash at the moment and fancy a present to myself :lol:

I only have the kit 18-55 lens at the moment mate. Again, i wanted to buy the 'base' as it were (Nikon/Canon) and then buy my accessories. I do appreciate im not going to see a massive difference in picture quality, i dont expect it for the budget im working on. Like i said, thats not the main reason im looking to upgrade.
 
I'd go for the 450D especially as you can get deals including kit lens and the very good 55-250 lens which will really expand your options.

On the Nikon AF thing, I doubt that it would trouble you much in practise. Still loads of lens options, or Nikon wouldn't have done it.

At this level, the way the cameras feel is perhaps the major difference.
 
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