Question to Wedding togs - providing just an album from someone else's photos?

[Broric]

This is a bit of a random one so please go easy on me.

We had our wedding photos back and while I'm happy enough with them (he's missed the focus in quite a few of the shots and a few were just sloppy framing but the majority are fine) the Mrs says how she "prefers how your photos normally look" which I'm taking to mean with a few curve adjustments and not as flat.

We have full rights to do anything (non-commerical) with the photos but the photographer retained copyright.

We've not yet got an album and we were going to get one from the photographer but he's having issues with his supplier changing or something and to be honest he was a little bit of a pain to deal with. Will other wedding photographers produce an album from someone else's photos?

I assumed the answer was no but thought it was worth asking on here.

 

[Phil V]

If he's given you the rights to get it done, and your Mrs likes your processing style, do it yourself.

 

[Broric]

If he's given you the rights to get it done, and your Mrs likes your processing style, do it yourself.

She wants an album with mounted photos rather than a photobook and I don't think I have the skill to do that to a decent standard.

Any suggestions much appreciated though

 

[Phil V]

She wants an album with mounted photos rather than a photobook and I don't think I have the skill to do that to a decent standard.

Any suggestions much appreciated though

EEK!!
They're not difficult to do, see the thread titled Spicer Hallfield for stockists open to the public.

 

[boyfalldown]

For what it's worth, I wouldn't produce this for you with written permission from the original photographer.provide that and I'd do it. But her mounted album wouldn't be cheap

 

[Broric]

Cheers

Is something like this from Loxley similar? https://www.loxleycolour.com/bellissimoapertura.aspx

It looks like they print the photos onto the pages like a photobook and then put mounts on top of them. She basically wants a "traditional" album and not a photobook and that looks like it fits the criteria but having never seen one in the flesh I'm not 100%.

 

[Serendipitous Sid]

As my learned friend from Doncaster says, matted albums aren't difficult. It's simply a case of ordering the album and the pages you want, then taping one side of the print(s) to the back of the mat, which has strips of double-sided tape round its periphery. Once your prints are in place to your satisfaction, it's simpy a case of removing the backing paper from the d/s tapes, aligning the mat on the page, and pressing it down.

You're now thinking "Yeah, but what if I get the mat on wonky?" to which the answer is that you very soon get the knack of just "tacking" the mount in place by one corner of it, checking the alignment, then holding it in place while you fish the backing paper strips out. There's bound to be videos on YooChewb.

And yes, you can lift a mat off that's gone on wonky. You just need to do it before the adhesive's started really grabbing, and the tool of choice is a table knife

 

[Broric]

For what it's worth, I wouldn't produce this for you with written permission from the original photographer.provide that and I'd do it. But her mounted album wouldn't be cheap

Did you mean "without"?

He provided a written statement along with the disk that states that we

"Have been granted a license to reproduce the images. No further permission will be needed to be sought from the original photographer for future reproduction unless for commercial purposes".

He then clarifies that it's so he retains copyright to use the images for promotional purposes.

We budgeted about £500 for the album. Is that realistic? I quite like the look of the Loxley album I linked to but not sure how it compares to hand-mounted stuff.

 

[boyfalldown]

Sorry, I meant without.

Even with that wording I'd be very wary. It could easily be classed as commercial use if I designed an album and made a profit.

I think you're on the low side for a decent album with that, especially if you want mounted

 

[Broric]

Sorry, I meant without.

Even with that wording I'd be very wary. It could easily be classed as commercial use if I designed an album and made a profit.

I think you're on the low side for a decent album with that, especially if you want mounted

Thanks for the advice, very much appreciated

Would you be able to provide an example of the kind of albums you do? Just to get an idea of our options, etc so I can work out exactly what the Mrs wants.

 

[boyfalldown]

Sure, I only now use a company called madera who only make digital books. Their prices and products fit very nicely with my customers. I found mounted albums were a bit too expensive for my customers so I struggled to make sensible money.

There's a photo of an example of one on my packages page www.boymeetsgirlphotography.co.uk/wedding-prices

 

[big soft moose]

tell her it was your wedding too and you want a photobook so you can do it yourself... when she gets arsey burst into tears and choke out between sobs that this is the only wedding you'll ever have and you just want this one thing and was that too much to ask....

 

[Broric]

This might be a stupid question but do G F Smith and/or Loxley sell to the public?

 

[boyfalldown]

I don't know about gf smith. But you need to register with loxleys. I'm not sure what info they need to create your account

 

[Phil V]

This might be a stupid question but do G F Smith and/or Loxley sell to the public?

Anyone can register with Loxley, GF Smith ask for a website etc. Not sure how well it's policed.

 

[testbloke]

Depending on album size and spreads we could do you a Loxley Apertura for £500. These are hand mounted albums, process pretty much as Dan described above. You can now mix image only pages and apertura mount pages in the same album.
Contact details in the sig ...

 

[Broric]

Depending on album size and spreads we could do you a Loxley Apertura for £500. These are hand mounted albums, process pretty much as Dan described above. You can now mix image only pages and apertura mount pages in the same album.
Contact details in the sig ...

Thanks, I might be in touch for a few more details.

I've already been in touch with Loxley and they said they anyone can sign up and order from them. Is there any difference between what I could order an an individual and what a professional would get? I assume that Loxley handle all of the production/fulfillment/etc so the professional is just the middleman handling the actual album design/layout?

 

[Phil V]

Thanks, I might be in touch for a few more details.

I've already been in touch with Loxley and they said they anyone can sign up and order from them. Is there any difference between what I could order an an individual and what a professional would get? I assume that Loxley handle all of the production/fulfillment/etc so the professional is just the middleman handling the actual album design/layout?

Yes.

The difference between me doing it and you doing it, is that I'll be a bit quicker and (hopefully) better. Loxley are one of a handful of companies that'll supply direct to customers. Which is what puts some pros off them.

 

[Broric]

Yes.

The difference between me doing it and you doing it, is that I'll be a bit quicker and (hopefully) better. Loxley are one of a handful of companies that'll supply direct to customers. Which is what puts some pros off them.

Cheers. Just wanted to make sure I understood and not adverse to paying a bit extra for someone who knows what they're doing to handle it all

 

[boyfalldown]

Thanks, I might be in touch for a few more details.

I've already been in touch with Loxley and they said they anyone can sign up and order from them. Is there any difference between what I could order an an individual and what a professional would get? I assume that Loxley handle all of the production/fulfillment/etc so the professional is just the middleman handling the actual album design/layout?

I don't think theres a difference. You may decide (assuming you can get any copyright issues squared away) that you'd get a better album paying Loxley to design it then doing is yourself

 

[testbloke]

I think you have been given slightly wrong information, Loxley deal with photographers only, not direct with the public. Not saying it would be hard to convince them but fundamentally they do NOT deal directly with the public. Although it was a long time ago I am sure we had to submit some proof of being a company before getting pricing through etc. but might be confused between Loxley, Graphi and Asuka. If you are dealing directly with Loxley, for about £50 they will do a layout for you for the album (architect service), which you proof before production. Might be best and most cost effective solution in your case.

 

[Phil V]

I think you have been given slightly wrong information, Loxley deal with photographers only, not direct with the public. Not saying it would be hard to convince them but fundamentally they do NOT deal directly with the public. Although it was a long time ago I am sure we had to submit some proof of being a company before getting pricing through etc. but might be confused between Loxley, Graphi and Asuka. If you are dealing directly with Loxley, for about £50 they will do a layout for you for the album (architect service), which you proof before production. Might be best and most cost effective solution in your case.

Unlike most album co's, they require you to register but do not ask you to give details of a website, a company name or any of the usual cursory 'checks'. There are many amateur photographers who use Loxley as their lab of choice.

 

[Broric]

I think you have been given slightly wrong information, Loxley deal with photographers only, not direct with the public. Not saying it would be hard to convince them but fundamentally they do NOT deal directly with the public. Although it was a long time ago I am sure we had to submit some proof of being a company before getting pricing through etc. but might be confused between Loxley, Graphi and Asuka. If you are dealing directly with Loxley, for about £50 they will do a layout for you for the album (architect service), which you proof before production. Might be best and most cost effective solution in your case.

I told them explicitly that our tog had given us photos on a disk and we were looking to get our own album made and asked if they sold direct to the public or only to professionals. They said they sold direct to the public.