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If you saw someone trying to shoot birds with an air pistol who should this be reported to :thinking:
 
RSPCA first instance and the police. Am sure it's illegal to pop out in public with an airgun. Just make sure your safe first of all, if someone is stupid enough to be firing an air rifle in a public place who knows what they would do if they saw someone calling the police...
 
RSPCA first instance and the police. Am sure it's illegal to pop out in public with an airgun. Just make sure your safe first of all, if someone is stupid enough to be firing an air rifle in a public place who knows what they would do if they saw someone calling the police...

Depends on the birds. It is legal to shoot many birds in Britain with land owners permission,

Thanks for the replies :) The guy was on private property when shooting at the birds, however these are Peregrine Falcons and I'm fairly sure they are a protected species :thinking:
 
yes they are! report them!
 
yes they are! report them!

Thanks, I know of someone else who reported this happening to the Police but they have shown no interest (apparently). The real problem is we don't know the identity of the shooter :shrug: and the Police seem powerless to do anything until the birds are either killed or maimed.

These birds have been nesting in the same place for at least three years and have reared several young and I'm fairly certain they have chicks now.

TBH, I'm seriously considering doing the same to him and he's a much bigger target for me than the birds are for him ...... :bat:
 
Its disgusting, why shoot peregrins?!! A*******
 
As I have said on many occasions, the RSPCA / RSPB
are only interested if its likely to be a high profile case / prosecution.
The wildlife liaison officer SHOULD take more interest. Some are "better"
than others as in all cases of "police work"

You may or may not get more sense out of DEFRA
Or Natural England
 
RSPCA would be out in a shot hurry...

Thanks :) although I doubt it .. but worth a try :shake:

Its disgusting, why shoot peregrins?!! A*******

:agree: Because some people are scum and need to be taught a serious lesson in what pain and suffering really is!


Try RSPB for advice. Police Wildlife Liason should help but aren't always as useful as we'd hope. Peregrine is protected.

Thanks for the suggestion :thumbs: I'll call the RSPB and get their advice, although I don't really know what they can do about it other than perhaps put some pressure on the police to respond quickly to catch the *******!
 
I would call as soon as possible, I believe there are big fines in place and even jail time..

google said:
The Police and the RSPB are warning that shooting a peregrine falcon is a crime as the bird is fully protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act.

Penalties upon conviction include fines of up to £5,000 or up to 6 months in prison or both. Court can also order the confiscation of any vehicle, weapon or other thing used to commit the offence.
 
As I have said on many occasions, the RSPCA / RSPB
are only interested if its likely to be a high profile case / prosecution.
The wildlife liaison officer SHOULD take more interest. Some are "better"
than others as in all cases of "police work"

You may or may not get more sense out of DEFRA
Or Natural England

Thanks Chris :thumbs: Just had a look at the links, I will contact them to see what they have to say about this :shrug: but it all looks very beaurocratic! what is needed is a quick response by the police ... Perhaps I'll dial 999 and say someone is taking photos of kids .... Should get them there quick enough :D ..... Seriously though, I reckon the only way to deal with this is as I said earlier :shake:

Is a wildlife liaison officer the same as a Force Wildlife Crime Officer?

Thanks again

Steve
 
Just phone the police and tell them you feel threatened by a man with a gun, they'll turn up!
 
Thanks Chris :thumbs: Just had a look at the links, I will contact them to see what they have to say about this :shrug: but it all looks very beaurocratic! what is needed is a quick response by the police ... Perhaps I'll dial 999 and say someone is taking photos of kids .... Should get them there quick enough :D ..... Seriously though, I reckon the only way to deal with this is as I said earlier :shake:

Is a wildlife liaison officer the same as a Force Wildlife Crime Officer?

Thanks again

Steve

I do need to contact DEFRA during the course of my work, Steve, They actually do answer
very quickly and do seem to know "whats what" .
And yep thats the "same person"
Where are you Steve? or where exactly was this, ? (PM if you like) I know "someone" that knows one or two WLO's ;)

Just phone the police and tell them you feel threatened by a man with a gun, they'll turn up!

Then follow that with, Oh forget it ,I have just shot the [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER].....
They will be there even quicker :D
 
Just phone the police and tell them you feel threatened by a man with a gun, they'll turn up!

That would work ... :thumbs: although I'd probably get arrested for wasting their time. Having said that .. If they stopped him it would be well worth it ...
 
I do need to contact DEFRA during the course of my work, Steve, They actually do answer
very quickly and do seem to know "whats what" .
And yep thats the "same person"
Where are you Steve? or where exactly was this, ? (PM if you like) I know "someone" that knows one or two WLO's ;)



Then follow that with, Oh forget it ,I have just shot the [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER].....
They will be there even quicker :D
:lol: :lol: .... May actually come true ....

Seriously though many thanks Chris and very much appreciated :thumbs: I will try some of the contacts mentioned earlier and if I get no joy from them I will send a pm as I really don't want to disclose their location on the internet.

Thanks everyone seriously appreciated :clap:
Steve
 
No worries Steve
if you do get stuck though pm me,
Just so you know that I am serious,
one of my friends is a police trainer,
and runs the wild life officers "training courses"
"down here" :thumbs:
 
Even if he was shooting at birds that are not on the protected list, using an air pistol instead of a rifle is a big no-no as they lack the power to guarantee an efficient kill. Under those circumstances I would be surprised if the RSPCA wouldn't be interested as the person involved could be charged with causing unnecessary suffering.
 
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