Processed Meats are Carcinogenic

camerassassin said:
Remember when we were told that coffee was bad for you because of the caffeine content ?So we were advised to switch to decaff.
What happened next ?
Decaff was thought to have some bearing on the incidence of stomach cancer so what were we to drink ?
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If over the years I'd listened to the advice offered to me, by each and every agency, what was good for you / bad for you / good for you / we really aren't sure / but this'll scare the crap out of the general populace,
I'd be long dead, possibly from starvation, or more likely dehydration.

These agencies have to justify their existence and therefore funding ( from mostly public money) somehow.
Must have been a slow news week, or funding is getting low, who knows?
 
The key is to ignore the recommendations and read the rationale.
Many of the recommendations are not based on any studies (e.g. Not feeding children nuts) or the risks are remote anyway (e.g. Pregnant women not eating unpasteurised hard cheese), or the science is just bad.
 
cambsno said:
Would rather live till 85 enjoying life than get to 95 living on lentils and cabbage!!!
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Plenty of other foods available. There could be all manner of foods causing ailments that stop you enjoying life at times, what makes you think eating healthily and living until 95 means you won't enjoy life.
I'd much rather attempt at a fit and healthy 95 year enjoyable life with my family, than eating crap food that serves no real purpose.
 
Cobra said:
I'd be long dead, possibly from starvation, or more likely dehydration.
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Why would you. I've not eaten red or processed meat, nor drank alcohol, tea or coffee in around 25 years, yet I'm still here, alive and kicking and enjoying life.
 
Cobra said:
Right that settles it, I'm cutting out the veg from my food, that should half the likelihood (y)
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Your Mum will be cross, bet she told you to eat your greens :D
 
Gremlin said:
Your Mum will be cross, bet she told you to eat your greens :D
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I know seems it'll stunt my growth
Or not make my hair curl :(
 
I wonder what the long term health risks of using protein shakes and the like will turn out to be.
 
Cobra said:
That was quite tame :D
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I'm learning to behave
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Every single person over 40 who dies has some kind of cancer cells.

Radiation is all around us, pollutants etc etc.

Don't sweat it and live a great life. Loads of examples of people who eat healthy etc etc and still die of cancer, its all b*****ks.
 
Cobra said:
Poor lad :(
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Not at all, I enjoy my food and my life. last time I went to the doctors had to be over 18yrs ago, it'd been so long they had to send me a letter asking if I still wanted to be registered with them. :)
 
nilagin said:
Not at all, I enjoy my food and my life. last time I went to the doctors had to be over 18yrs ago, it'd been so long they had to send me a letter asking if I still wanted to be registered with them. :)
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I was pulling your leg, ;) but I'm surprised that you don't "beef up" ( sorry about the pun)
on red meat though.

As for Dr's the last time I went was for my HGV medical, and the time before that was for my HGV medical, and the time before that was for my .... well you get the idea ;)
 
Nod said:
I wonder what the long term health risks of using protein shakes and the like will turn out to be.
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Already have that sorted. There is another protein called L'arginine. It counteracts any negatives from a high protein diet, which is likely to just be kidney stones. It also helps keep the kidneys in good working order.
 
Cobra said:
I was pulling your leg, ;) but I'm surprised that you don't "beef up" ( sorry about the pun)
on red meat though.

As for Dr's the last time I went was for my HGV medical, and the time before that was for my HGV medical, and the time before that was for my .... well you get the idea ;)
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Higher concentration of protein in chicken and fish and none of the unnecessary fats.
Only been to the doctors 3 times in my life, once aged 7 for stitches after splitting my head open, then a few weeks later to have the stitches removed, then again as mentioned around 18yrs ago, I'd eaten far too many bananas in too short a period and ended up with bad migraine.
 
nilagin said:
Higher concentration of protein in chicken and fish and none of the unnecessary fats.
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Its very marginal on all counts though,
And really, apart from the required HGV medicals I really couldn't tell the last time I went to the Drs for anything medical.
Apart from a MC accident nearly 35 years ago.
 
dont use deodorant, dont drive cars, dont smoke, dont eat dead cow or pig, avoid sugar, dont have unprotected sex..the list goes on.

solution:

live in a cave, eating grass.
 
Matt said:
dont use deodorant, dont drive cars, dont smoke, dont eat dead cow or pig, avoid sugar, dont have unprotected sex..the list goes on.

solution:

live in a cave, eating grass.
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Organic grass though....otherwise you might just as well partake in all the other stuff ;)
 
organic grass...of course.
 
Matt said:
dont use deodorant, dont drive cars, dont smoke, dont eat dead cow or pig, avoid sugar, dont have unprotected sex..the list goes on.

solution:

live in a cave, eating grass.
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Why eat grass when you can smoke it!
 
Right everybody stop breathing!!

The biggest cause of cancer is the oxygen we breath, that is a fact

Why? Because all cancers need oxygen to survive and grow

So like I said.... Stop breathing
 
Matt said:
live in a cave, eating grass.
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Has this cave been certified by the British Geological Survey as being in a seismically benign area, and are we wearing hard hats?
 
Llamaman said:
Has this cave been certified by the British Geological Survey as being in a seismically benign area, and are we wearing hard hats?
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The risk assessment is ongoing, and following that will be the government sub committee for the allocation of cave residency permits, followed by the awarding of government contracts for the day to day operations of our new rock utopia.

Process should take, oooooh, 5,...10....let's say 30 years to be on the safe side? :-)
 
Llamaman said:
Has this cave been certified by the British Geological Survey as being in a seismically benign area, and are we wearing hard hats?
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The rest of us are, hard hats for Llamas are still in the development stage however. Until such times, you'll just have to keep your head down and take your chances. ;)
 
I wish the food and drink nazis would say that there is something in chewing gum that causes a horribly disfiguring terminal condition. Perhaps there would then be less of it stuck to our pavements.
 
arclight said:
I wish the food and drink nazis would say that there is something in chewing gum that causes a horribly disfiguring terminal condition. Perhaps there would then be less of it stuck to our pavements.
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I doubt it as there is a sugar free alternative :D
 
All of these scares about various foods being bad for you, yet we are all living far longer than we used to, with staggering numbers of people living to be 100 - well over 13,000 in 2012.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26681306

"Internationally, the UK lagged only behind Spain, Italy, France and Japan for the number of 100-year-olds in its population."

I reckon if we all give up the bangers and the bacon sarnies, we will be living to 120.
 
Cobra said:
Johnny Ball cum Witchfinder General’ performs a successful detox on a Barbie doll,
:D I wonder if he ever watched weird science?
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Bet he wouldn't hassle this lot

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Llamaman said:
Has this cave been certified by the British Geological Survey as being in a seismically benign area, and are we wearing hard hats?
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I've just been reading the green paper about lighting this cave.

According to the WHO air pollution caused by fossil fuels is confirmed as carcinogenic to humans therefore all carbon based fuels will be prohibited as a means of providing power and light to the cave.
Nuclear power is obviously deemed far too risky due to the carcinogenic effects of radioactive waste, so consideration has been given to alternatives such as solar and wind power.
Unfortunately early studies show that solar panels emit hazardous "electronic waste" just like mobile phones, computers and TVs which may be linked to an increased risk of cancer.
And although further research is needed into "wind turbine syndrome" and the associated health effects, this committee considers that it's only a matter of time before it's conclusively proven to be detrimental to human health and has also ruled that out as an option.

In conclusion, to ensure that everybody is kept safe and secure from any possible carcinogens the cave will be permitted to be illuminated by natural light only.
Since direct contact with sunlight increases the likelihood of contracting skin cancer by 99%* the cave skylight will be fitted with UV protective glass and will only be exposed during non daylight hours to moonlight.
As a result of this precaution, the cave's inhabitants will be required to adjust their body clocks to a nocturnal cycle.

This does raise serious concerns about a lack of vitamin D within the inhabitants which has also been linked to a possible increased risk of cancer.
In order to counter this risk all cave-dwellers will be given daily injections of Vitamin D and a study has been commissioned to review the health risks of over-dependence on artificial vitamins.

Unfortunately, another possible side effect of adjusting to a nocturnal cycle is sleep deprivation and the associated increased risk of cancer.
To date, this committee has been unable to find a viable solution to this last problem . . .


In short, we're all doomed.

*I may have just invented that particular statistic
 
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