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Hello,
Can anyone recommend a company for doing printer profiles (ICC). My set-up is an epson 2100 printer, ebay bulk pigment ink and 7day shop semi gloss/ pearl- satin paper (very good with epson carts - but now too expensive). I intend to eventually move to permajet or fotospeed papers, but I have about 50 sheets of A3 paper to use up!
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Andy
 
Thats why I will be buying their paper in the future, but they don't for my existing paper!

Thanks anyway!
 
Thankyou - How do we proceed? and How much is it going to cost?

Thanks Andy
 
cost nothing - send me a pm with your email and what software you print with
 
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Andy and POAH, does the ink not need to be taken into consideration when creating profiles? In my experience, paper manufacturer has far less effect on colours etc than inks. As I've said in the other, almost identical thread from you, Andy.
 
papers have quite an effect since the differ in base colour (white to yellow) and they will absorb different amounts of ink.
 
I've only recently got my head around this colour management thing!. It is my understanding that a profile takes into account ink density and colour applied to a given paper, and absorbtion of ink by the paper.
Poah is certainly far more expert in this field than myself.
Andy
 
POAH said:
papers have quite an effect since the differ in base colour (white to yellow) and they will absorb different amounts of ink.
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It does indeed have some effect but way less than inks do (in my experience). While I would never again use a 3rd party ink cartridge, I'm happy to use a selection of papers - from Canon's own, through Ilford's Galerie range down to Lidl/Aldi own brand (only in 6x4), which has on occasion been branded Agfa. Unsure about other brands of printer (apart from my wife's Epson R220) but my Canons have all had a good selection of paper types to choose from and a 6x4 proof or 2 has always given me good colour rendition with one of the presets, even on the cheapy Lidl/Aldi stuff.
 
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It does indeed have some effect but way less than inks do (in my experience). While I would never again use a 3rd party ink cartridge, I'm happy to use a selection of papers - from Canon's own, through Ilford's Galerie range down to Lidl/Aldi own brand (only in 6x4), which has on occasion been branded Agfa. Unsure about other brands of printer (apart from my wife's Epson R220) but my Canons have all had a good selection of paper types to choose from and a 6x4 proof or 2 has always given me good colour rendition with one of the presets, even on the cheapy Lidl/Aldi stuff.
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depends on the 3rd party inks - profiles make changes depending on the changes on the ink. if you didn't get the ink profiled then it stands to reason it would change the look. using an epson profile premium gloss on say olmec gloss will give horrific results because of the difference in paper base colour.
 
Can't remember what brand the 3rd party cart I tried was but I do remember that the results were not good at all and got worse over a short period of time. I had disposed of the offending cart before doing any profiling, the colours were so bad that I wasn't sure they were recoverable through the driver settings and then they got even worse despite being behind glass.

Having gone through the profile game with several different papers through my old s820 Canon, I now stick with the ones I prefer (Canon or Galerie) for larger (A4 and above) prints and use the cheap stuff (on which the prints last well and with the correct preset selected give accurate colours) for proofing. I have used a pack or 2 of the cheap stuff at A4 but always felt a little uneasy about it - a 6x4 or 2 failing is nongreat loss but A4s do cost a penny or 2. IIRC, Canon's "Glossy Photo Paper" preset is the one I use for the cheapy papers with the correct (or at least, to my eyes the most pleasing results) preset written on the boxes of the Galerie papers. Canon papers get put through using the appropriate presets as suggested in the spec sheets or on the preset list. Not on the machine the printer runs from which is in the room where the paper is kept,m so can't tell you what presets I use for what papers for certain - from memory I use Canon Photo Paper Pro (media finish) presets for the Canon stuff and Galerie but would have to look at the boxes to be sure.

In an ideal world, I suppose I should get hold of a ColorMunki and do "proper" profiles but my method gives me good results at a tiny fraction of the cost, so since it ain't ****** it ain't wirth fixing! (My prints are all for me and very rarely anyone else's consumption, so it's only me I need to please)
 
Not all 3rd party inks are created equally in quality or longevity. Totally agree if something works why change.
 
I completely agree with both statements! On the 3rd party inks though, it can take a few tries to find inks that really do perform as well as genuines and that testing costs, both in terms of paper and the (IMO) high chance of several reject sets of (cheap but not free) inks, not to mention time.
 
The dye inks seem to have the greatest level of crapness attached to them. Probably takes more effort I make pigment ones and they are generally found in most expensive printers.
 
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