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Shell garage in Long Stratton tonight

£1.32 for a litre of petrol
£1.37 for a litre of diesel

:gag:

OK, so it's an Aston Martin / Lotus dealership and the owner needs to pay for his private helicopter, but.....

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125.9 for Petrol

Plus the fact I drive a 1.8 Focus Zetec means I'm getting about 20 something to the gallon....which means I'm literally pouring money in the tank every week.
 
124.9 at my local Morrisons, Sainsburys are doing it fro 127.9

guess where I go shopping :)
 
local garage, more exp than supermarkets is 1.28
 
so glad i plumped for an oil burner last time I changed cars (admittedly a 2h one)

but 63mpg and similar performance to the 38 mpg 16v "yellow rocket"......... and this one is chain cam so no cambelts to change........
 
Why are they allowed to quote prices retail in .1 of a pence? It's a scam. Cheapest up here is 130p or thereabouts.

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Marcel said:
125.9 for Petrol

Plus the fact I drive a 1.8 Focus Zetec means I'm getting about 20 something to the gallon....which means I'm literally pouring money in the tank every week.
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You should get alot more than that.:(

£1.38 BP Ultimate Diesel
I get 50mpg at the moment, expect to get alot more as the weather warms up. I also expect to get more after a remap too.
I did get 59mpg average on tank during the summer. Not bad for a Mondeo 2.2 ST TDCi.:thumbs:
 
When I started filling up 14 years ago I remember it being less than 60p a litre....
 
Lynton said:
so glad i plumped for an oil burner last time I changed cars (admittedly a 2h one)

but 63mpg and similar performance to the 38 mpg 16v "yellow rocket"......... and this one is chain cam so no cambelts to change........
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I know exactly what you mean, thats the reason I recently bought a new car, more MPG, 60 combined is so much better than the 20 I was getting in my last motor.

129.9 here at Sainsburys in Norwich by the way.

Check out http://www.petrolprices.com seems ok except is always a day or two out, but normally a good guide
 
lawrie29 said:
When I started filling up 14 years ago I remember it being less than 60p a litre....
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LOL - when I first filled my wee morris van - it was 4/6p a gallon! (about 22p in new money!)
 
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Just outside Colchester at the pace in elmstead market the diesel is 134p however 2 days a week they do a discount day which makes it 131p then there is a 3p per litre off if you use the token in the eadt paper so 128p wednesday & sunday
Local supermarkets are 132p but I don't use thier diesel as it returns poor mpg and other problems imo.
 
141 here

It's a joke that the government wont lower the fuel costs.

Cornwall is one of the heaviest areas for low wages and unemployment and the public transport is chit.

Work this out. Cheap public transport AFTER 9.00am. So anyone wanting to use the bus to get to work has to pay full wack. What an excellent incentive.

My mate has to pay nearlt £900 to fill his fuel oil tank and it last only 3 months in the winter.

It's true when they said that wages have gone back to 2005 levels. The worst drop since the beginning of last century. I feel lucky to be in a country where I can turn on a tap and get fresh water, but the prices are screwing us with out pants on. If interest rates go up to 1980 levels then i dread to think what will happen.

It's not going to stop either. Cereal will get more and more expensive as demand grows world wide. There will have to be drastic action taken on a world wide scale with global warming getting out of control.

On a lighter note, I had at least 2 inches of solid chocolate in the bottom of my corneto tonight.
 
124.9 at Asda and the Shell garage across the road .Remember 1978-79 when I used to fill my moped up for 50p a week
 
really dumb question coming up, buy why so much better mpg in the summer?

Can't all be due to

a) thinner lighter air
b) less use of heater (offset by aircon)
 
Marcel said:
125.9 for Petrol

Plus the fact I drive a 1.8 Focus Zetec means I'm getting about 20 something to the gallon....which means I'm literally pouring money in the tank every week.
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125.9 for petrol here, plus the fact I drive a 3.2 Porsche Boxster means I get 20 something to the gallon, means you should get a more fun car than a Focus and it won't use any more petrol :naughty:
 
Well 41 years ago when my old man owned a filling station the price was

Super.. 5 shillings and eight pence a gallon.
Premium.. 5 shillings and six pence a gallon.
Regular.. five shillings and four pence a gallon.
Derv.. 5 shillings and two pence.
Parrfin.. 1 shilling and six pence.
Engine oil.. 1pint 2 shillings and four pence.

How it's changed over the years.:(

Peterborough Area Petrol £1-29 to £1-31 and Derv £1-34ish depending where you go..
 
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125.9 at asda here in reading.
Though we're saving 5% on each fill up because we use discounted vouchers to pay :) every little helps!
 
Lynton said:
really dumb question coming up, buy why so much better mpg in the summer?

Can't all be due to

a) thinner lighter air
b) less use of heater (offset by aircon)
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I think it will be less in the summer.

denser cold air so more power.

denser fuel again more power.

both equal more mpg

open window offsets aircon.
 
Curiously my local corner garage is actually (1p) cheaper than tesco at the moment @
127.9 for Sans Plomb
Diesel I don't even look at that price (company van claim it back
But do buy at Tesco for the points :D)

And I agree thats a right rip off it should be illegal!
in fact I am sure it is, that is, to sell something at a price that you can't pay. There is no coin of the realm that =0.9p

You don't get the supermarkets selling Baked beans at 10.5p do you?
I wanna by a litre of fuel, so I either get more or less than I require
and if you buy the required minimum of 5L thats even worse at .45p left over
Any Customs and excise guys on here wanna explain that little rip off ?? :lol:
 
simon44 said:
I think it will be less in the summer.

denser cold air so more power.

denser fuel again more power.

both equal more mpg

open window offsets aircon.
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I can assure you I get better Mpg in the summer compared to winter. As does wife. Around 10% better.
 
simon44 said:
My mate has to pay nearlt £900 to fill his fuel oil tank and it last only 3 months in the winter.
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I lived in an oil heated house until a few months ago. One fillup of 1000 litres (300-400 pounds in the last few years) lasted me a year - four bedroom bungalow and I like it warm. Now prices went up to 70p/litre before Christmas, but even so, 1000l lasting only 3 months, does he live in a mansion, or have badly fitting sash windows and no insulation?

It should of course be borne in mind that heating oil only attracts VAT at 5% and no other duty, so changes in the price are not due to taxes
 
Lynton said:
I can assure you I get better Mpg in the summer compared to winter. As does wife. Around 10% better.
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I suspect that because the air is less dense, the MAF sensor will report that there is less air and therefore inject less fuel.
Thats my theory ;)
 
Lynton said:
I can assure you I get better Mpg in the summer compared to winter. As does wife. Around 10% better.
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I just googled it and the answer is....

A Three words: "time to temperature." In cold weather, our vehicles take a much longer period of time to reach full operating temperature. And they take this extra time each and every time we start them up, even if they have not fully cooled down.

Modern engine-management systems are very efficient at optimizing the fuel/air ratio entering the engine. The oxygen sensor monitors the percentage of oxygen in the exhaust, compares this with the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere, and generates a low-voltage signal that communicates this ratio to the computer. The computer then adjusts the pulse-width of the fuel injectors -- the precise period of time each injector is open on each injection cycle --to fine-tune the amount of fuel reaching each cylinder.
 
Lynton said:
really dumb question coming up, buy why so much better mpg in the summer?

Can't all be due to

a) thinner lighter air
b) less use of heater (offset by aircon)
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If you are doing short journeys the colder ambient temperature in winter means that the engine takes longer to get up to temperature. Fuel consumption is much, much higher when the engine is cold. The use of the heater in winter acts as a radiator reducing the temperature of the water in the engine and it is not subject to thermostat control like the radiator itself, so delays the engine getting up to normal working temperature even more.

If your commute is 50 miles each way then the effect will be very small, if (like mine) it is nine miles each way then it is significant - about 10% worse consumption in the coldest part of winter. I can get 35mpg out of my car on the motorway, 25mpg average soley commuting in summer and the last two tanks were 22mpg. The consumption was better from my old house, which was a 12 mile each way journey as the car was up to temperature for more of it.
 
onomatopoeia said:
I lived in an oil heated house until a few months ago. One fillup of 1000 litres (300-400 pounds in the last few years) lasted me a year - four bedroom bungalow and I like it warm. Now prices went up to 70p/litre before Christmas, but even so, 1000l lasting only 3 months, does he live in a mansion, or have badly fitting sash windows and no insulation?

It should of course be borne in mind that heating oil only attracts VAT at 5% and no other duty, so changes in the price are not due to taxes
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I don't know I was just passing on his moan.
 
RacingSnake said:
I suspect that because the air is less dense, the MAF sensor will report that there is less air and therefore inject less fuel.
Thats my theory ;)
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Good enough for me.........

SWMBO has a 1.9 megane oil burner --- summer mid to high 50's. winter high 40's v low 50's. data over 2 yrs.

I have a 1.3 TD punto with a remap (and yes ins co does know)

Summer - mid 60's, winter high 50's............ and neither of us drive like an old biddy either!
 
boliston said:
Hopefully this will see more people choose sensible cars as opposed to the monsters I see outside the school gates in my road.
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Even with the price of fuel as high as it is it's still peanuts compared to the £300 a month you lose on a new car so don't expect anything to change any time soon

I'll be keeping my 300 BHP 4 litre XK8 because it's paid for, forking out 15k for a more fuel efficient car is a fallacy IMO

The shocking thing is petrol was 88p a litre only 2 years ago
 
Noticed 129.9p for petrol when my bus stopped at Tesco's Bar Hill, Cambs this afternoon
 
alastairb said:
wrong, above about 30 the drag caused by the open window causes a worse effect that using air con and below 10mph an open window doesnt help
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Mythbusters did this one a few years back two indentical cars going around a track at the same time same speed same weights etc one with air con on one with open windows.

Air con car ran out of fuel first by quite a distance.
 
Keenbfb said:
Mythbusters did this one a few years back two indentical cars going around a track at the same time same speed same weights etc one with air con on one with open windows.

Air con car ran out of fuel first by quite a distance.
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so, if aircon is worse for economy WHY do I get better f/e in summer c/f winter?

15% upwards?
 
Keenbfb said:
Mythbusters did this one a few years back two indentical cars going around a track at the same time same speed same weights etc one with air con on one with open windows.

Air con car ran out of fuel first by quite a distance.
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just reading about that now, and there are a fair few flaws in that test and even so the 30mph figure might be wrong, at normal road speeds of 60-70(honest :thinking:) the drag caused will be far higher than in the test they did at 45mph
 
I had a BMW in South Africa that was fairly thirsty, around 12.0 l/100 kms or whatever that is in mpg. Using the air con didn't seem to make much difference, so I just left it on most of the time.

Johannesburg is nearly 6000 ft, and high altitude does sap engine power so most of us found that we drove a bit "harder" than we did at the coast. Higher revs meant heavier fuel consumption. Not a factor in the UK, but a couple of engineers told me air temperature comes into it too, with higher temperatures also reducing power. I don't know if the UK really gets hot enough to matter, but maybe..........?

FWIW, petrol was about 75p/l in SA last week and the price is set by the government every month, no discounting. It does go down as often as it goes up though.
 
I know when it's "proper" cold my fuel economy goes down because I start the engine, put all the heaters on and then spend 10 minutes scraping all the ice off the windscreen!

Diesel's about £1.29 around here... or £1.39 at Charnock Richards services!
 
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Martyn,

Hasn't gone up much in SA in 4 yrs then. We were there Nov 06 and it was eqivalent to about 45p a litre. But then it was 17rand to a £. Today approx 10.5 rand to £
 
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