Posiview's Photo 52 'Nature' added **FINISHED!!**

drodd said:
Hiya Andy

Great idea and agree with the comments Colin has mentioned.

Considering the mania you describe was happening at the time I think you did a fab job.

Cheers

Dawn :)
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Sterling Archer said:
I hadn't spotted the ordering until I saw it mentioned, but great bokeh.
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michael23 said:
Great photo for divided, agree with the comments already made. :thumbs:
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Mentalblock said:
I see you've been suffering for your art again Andy.

Power is good - great idea and good PP work, although I expect you to have good PP skills by now with all the Costa shots.
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whitedeer said:
divided - like it, could fit tropical too also :0)

and great idea for power, thats a giggle of a pic, nice one!
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blondie606 said:
Hi Andy


love your shot for DIVIDED , personnaly prefer your 2nd edit as the colors look more natural , the background sets it off perfectly :clap:
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TinaC said:
[s1]:agree:[/s1]
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Thanks, all.

On reflection my 1st divided is a tad shocking...:gag:

Anyway, I'll hopefully get my first divided idea done tomorrow....
 
I just love this pic. What a great idea. Such a strong image. I prefer the second version mainly for the more natural colours.
 
Andy, love the second shot of divided..but for me being closer to that delicious pineapple would have worked better... maybe at an angle... :thumbs:

i'm thinking of pineapple now....mmmmm
 
PatrickO said:
I just love this pic. What a great idea. Such a strong image. I prefer the second version mainly for the more natural colours.
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debrito said:
Again you deliver what is needed class : thumbs:
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SamuelSlade007 said:
Andy, love the second shot of divided..but for me being closer to that delicious pineapple would have worked better... maybe at an angle... :thumbs:

i'm thinking of pineapple now....mmmmm
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Cheers, All.

I did try an angle take but the gaps (divisions) weren't as pronounced.

Anyway, onto Promise....
 
Broken promise?​

2 takes.

#1 was taken in the back garden with my daughter's assistance. Tripod at full extension which was worrying as it was on gravel...:shake:

I went for b&w to give it a more gritty feel.

#2 was a test shot last night in the kitchen. The tripod was on the table and fell off once, but I caught it....gulp.

Thanks.


20 promise 1 by andysheader, on Flickr


20 promise 2 by andysheader, on Flickr
 
Hiya Andy,

Quite a powerful message of promise you have captured.

I'm warming more toward the b&w photo. I like the striped shirt and the way it looks like you are crouched on the floor trying to decide whether to or not pour that JD. Think it would have perhaps had more impact if you got the pose with your hand in a position as though to look like you were indecisive, making it much more of an action shot with thought.

The second image is also good, conveys the same message, but comes across as more reading the label of the bottle as opposed to the 'promise' not to have another. Perhaps if this one was in b&w it would have a different impact.

I can't help but notice the pants you have on .... please don't tell me those are your undies :lol:

For me, I really like the striped shirt, and think it may have worked better if you had the same attire in the second image, perhaps with the sleeves rolled up to reveal the tattoos (which really add to the image) and perhaps with the shirt hanging out creating a unkempt look (which I feel you have achieved really well in the first image).

I don't intend my critique to be negative .... far from. It is just the way I see the idea and what I would have done differently.

Great idea and well done :clap:

Cheers

Dawn :)
 
Hi Andy

A strong take on the theme :thumbs:

The b&w works best for me as it directs interest to the bottle. A stronger image might have been either with the top off or the other hand about to remove the top, though on reflection that might have reduced the view of the bottle. I like the focus on the bottle but wonder at the shot glass ;)

Your right hand looks too passive in both images, perhaps a fist? Your pose outside at the bench dressed more formally looks more like the need to keep the promise and the secrecy that might be involved in breaking it.

Re the colour version, I got involved in wondering why the top of your head was so red and what are those pants???? And did you worry you might forget your name? Other than that it is all too clean. The gritty look of the b&w does add to the strength of the dilemma.
 
TinaC said:
Hi Andy

A strong take on the theme :thumbs:

The b&w works best for me as it directs interest to the bottle. A stronger image might have been either with the top off or the other hand about to remove the top, though on reflection that might have reduced the view of the bottle. I like the focus on the bottle but wonder at the shot glass ;)

Your right hand looks too passive in both images, perhaps a fist? Your pose outside at the bench dressed more formally looks more like the need to keep the promise and the secrecy that might be involved in breaking it.

Re the colour version, I got involved in wondering why the top of your head was so red and what are those pants???? And did you worry you might forget your name? Other than that it is all too clean. The gritty look of the b&w does add to the strength of the dilemma.
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I second your additional comments Tina :thumbs:

Andy has a very powerful image here and with a few modifications could be fantastic.

Cheers

Dawn :)
 
First shot is brilliant Andy. B&W works really well. My only slight crit would be that I don't think the bottle needs to be held to show the label, I think the message is strong enough without that.
 
..B&W...but maybe the bottle should be seen as being shoved away...? conveying promise..not perhaps the contemplation that is occuring here..?
 
I am really liking the black and white shot Andy. It has a sense of drama and indecision, looking like you are studying the label and contemplating the temptation. Brill idea and well shot mate.
 
Thanks for the comments.

This theme has very personal associations to it, which I won't bore you with. I enjoyed doing it very much. Composing the photograph was a real challenge because I was after a "Looking over the shoulder" effect. Special thanks to my daughter for her assistance taking the actual photographs :love:

There's 2 more below I took at the same time but I felt the ones I posted were the better 2. These 2 seem a little over exposed and, I guess, with all of them I really didn't convey the desperate feelings an alcoholic gets when faced with "That decision!"...

I plan to open the bottle tomorrow night so may have another go with an empty bottle...

Regarding the (cough....) undies....an Englishman's home is his Castle...:razz: and I was on my own so I did a Homer Simpson


20 promise backup 3 by andysheader, on Flickr


20 promise backup 4 by andysheader, on Flickr
 
If you retake as you um pour... I like the hand on head pic... now you need a tri..uh three pic picture... on before, one pouring and on with hesitationing reach to the full glass...

Do you have an AA badge or certificate or document?, just to litter to the side of the glass/bottle... :D
 
I like the B&W shots. The medium lends itself well to the theme. I’m guessing you only used natural light outdoors, and I think this has lessened the potential impact the shot could have.
If you have a chance next time you shoot this theme (it is such a good one, it is worth doing a reshoot) modify the light on the shot to increase impact. This is very easy with off camera flash, but with some patience and ingenuity, (and some helpers) it can be done with natural light.

Try adding a gobo (a sheet from a news paper for example) between the subject and the sun to add more shadow to him, and less on the bottle. Or under expose the shot slightly, and bounce more light onto areas of interest using small reflectors, such as CDs.
At the moment the B&W conversion is too "even", and although you can dodge and burn in PP, getting the light right in shot gives much better results.

Overall this is a very good shot, and handling of the theme, i just think there is more impact in there waiting to be let loose.

Rgds

Adie
 
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ecniv said:
If you retake as you um pour... I like the hand on head pic... now you need a tri..uh three pic picture... on before, one pouring and on with hesitationing reach to the full glass...

Do you have an AA badge or certificate or document?, just to litter to the side of the glass/bottle... :D
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Like the triptic idea.

Thanks for the input and ideas.

Webby962 said:
I like the B&W shots. The medium lends itself well to the theme. I’m guessing you only used natural light outdoors, and I think this has lessened the potential impact the shot could have.
If you have a chance next time you shoot this theme (it is such a good one, it is worth doing a reshoot) modify the light on the shot to increase impact. This is very easy with off camera flash, but with some patience and ingenuity, (and some helpers) it can be done with natural light.

Try adding a gobo (a sheet from a news paper for example) between the subject and the sun to add more shadow to him, and less on the bottle. Or under expose the shot slightly, and bounce more light onto areas of interest using small reflectors, such as CDs.
At the moment the B&W conversion is too "even", and although you can dodge and burn in PP, getting the light right in shot gives much better results.

Overall this is a very good shot, and handling of the theme, i just think there is more impact in there waiting to be let loose.

Rgds

Adie
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Many thanks for this advice.

I bought and off camera flash set up but would struggle doing this, taking the photograph and being the 'actor'.

Might co-opt my wife into this one...:D

Regards.
 
Hi

Sorry i've not caught up with your 52 in a while... I love your take on promise.

It's a moving and thought provoking image which you should be proud of... one of your best..

Great work

Mark
 
markelliot said:
Hi

Sorry i've not caught up with your 52 in a while... I love your take on promise.

It's a moving and thought provoking image which you should be proud of... one of your best..

Great work

Mark
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Thanks, I do like it but don't really feel I've captured the despair of a person in this situation. A possible reshoot in the future.

Cheers.
 
Twisted (just attempts).

My first idea came to mush, literally!

I bought a newspaper and wanted to twist it and retain the text/photographs. I wet it and slowly started to twist it and all was going well until the paper started to rip.....I tried to recover it but no luck.

Anyway, I went for my second idea water twisting in a glass, sheesh, not easy. I just could not get a twisting effect.

So I went for my 3rd idea but the water pressure wasn't strong enough. Even though, I decided to post some attempts with a view to having a go at idea 4 (when I have it...:thinking:)


Twisted by andysheader, on Flickr


Twisted 2 by andysheader, on Flickr
 
Hi Andy, thats a great idea for twisted. Out of the 2 pics I think the colour is slightly better, the water does seem a little more prominent to me. I would have thought the black and white would have done that though.
 
Well the promise take one is pure class its perfect doesn't need any adjustment and say everything it needs to :clap::clap:
 
Andy

** hose idea is great.... Would be so much better though with an uncluttered background... Uv just given me another idea for twist also i might try later in the week... Great work and great idea. M
 
Hi Andy

Love the shot for Promise...the Backup 3 is my fave , B&W suits perfectly can almost feel the inner struggle not to break the Promise...great idea & well shot:clap:

Your shot for Twisted is also spot on theme & quite daring (water/camera not good mixers) , prefer the color version as the water does seem clearer .Just maybe a tighter crop to the righthandside to even up the amount of table shown ? Only a little nitpick & probably just me & my OCD about eveness:lol:

Great idea though & well captured:clap:
 
Hiya Andy,

Great idea for the twisted theme :thumbs:

Perhaps cropping the bottom bit, i.e., to just above the paving edge as it seems to break the lead-in line, and maybe a slight bit off the top too.

My son has just seen this photo and said "wow that's a cool photo" :D

You have a lovely garden and I like seeing the photos you take in it.

Out of the two I prefer the colour version. The water in the b&w one looks a tad to bright.

Cheers

Dawn :)
 
TinaC said:
Well! I never! I prefer th colour version as it has more impact as it looks more realistic somehow. I know that is nonsense but it's the best I can do :$
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Thanks, I hoped there would be more contrast by using b&w.

michael23 said:
Hi Andy, thats a great idea for twisted. Out of the 2 pics I think the colour is slightly better, the water does seem a little more prominent to me. I would have thought the black and white would have done that though.
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Thanks, as so did I...:)

Mentalblock said:
Hose pipes and cameras - very brave.
I like the idea and agree with Tina that the colour works better.

As for promise, the hand on head shot is the better one.
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Thanks and thanks...:thumbs:

Sterling Archer said:
Now Andy, this isn't a p*ssing competition.
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:lol:

debrito said:
Well the promise take one is pure class its perfect doesn't need any adjustment and say everything it needs to :clap::clap:
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Many thanks. It is one of my favs so far.

markelliot said:
Andy

** hose idea is great.... Would be so much better though with an uncluttered background... Uv just given me another idea for twist also i might try later in the week... Great work and great idea. M
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Nice one, looking forward to it.

blondie606 said:
Hi Andy

Love the shot for Promise...the Backup 3 is my fave , B&W suits perfectly can almost feel the inner struggle not to break the Promise...great idea & well shot:clap:

Your shot for Twisted is also spot on theme & quite daring (water/camera not good mixers) , prefer the color version as the water does seem clearer .Just maybe a tighter crop to the righthandside to even up the amount of table shown ? Only a little nitpick & probably just me & my OCD about eveness:lol:

Great idea though & well captured:clap:
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Thanks and edited version posted.

drodd said:
Hiya Andy,

Great idea for the twisted theme :thumbs:

Perhaps cropping the bottom bit, i.e., to just above the paving edge as it seems to break the lead-in line, and maybe a slight bit off the top too.

My son has just seen this photo and said "wow that's a cool photo" :D

You have a lovely garden and I like seeing the photos you take in it.

Out of the two I prefer the colour version. The water in the b&w one looks a tad to bright.

Cheers

Dawn :)
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Edited and posted. Glad your son enjoyed it.

Not exactly what I was after but......

I have another Idea in mind if I have time to get it.

Thanks all.


Twisted edit by andysheader, on Flickr
 
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Very well done Andy, looks really good. The colour one is stronger as others have said and the crop has worked too. The B&W might look better with a crop of the top. I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnk losing more of the trees would make the twist more prominent.
 
Barrysprout said:
Very well done Andy, looks really good. The colour one is stronger as others have said and the crop has worked too. The B&W might look better with a crop of the top. I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnk losing more of the trees would make the twist more prominent.
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Thanks, Colin.

I did quick crop and the water was emphasised...:thumbs:
 
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No problem Andy.
Still don't understand why people insist on calling me Barry though. lol
 
Barrysprout said:
No problem Andy.
Still don't understand why people insist on calling me Barry though. lol
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:lol::lol::lol: see I'm not the only one :p

Thanks Andy :D

Cheers

Dawn :)
 
Ah... you've beat me to my first idea... I was going to do something similar... but not now... back to the drawing board!

Great shot and well done! I think it might be better if it was slightly brighter... and maybe left in colour... I dont know... the shot I envisaged used white walls and a white cupboard door... but in a way this is good to as its sort of camouflaged!

Well done!
 
Hiya Andy,

Great shot for the theme of hidden. Agree with comments already made.

Well done

Cheers

Dawn :)
 
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