Portrait editing - help needed!

kitschenalia

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Hi there, long time no see, I've been taking photos though, and *gradually* getting better.

I'm now at the stage where I realise that to make my portrait shots (any shots of course, but it's portraits I concentrate on) I'm going to need to get good at editing them. I've taught myself some basics in Lightroom including softening skin and eye popping, as well as brightening and warming up grey days etc.

But I'm having some issues. For some reason, my shots in Lightroom look softer and less focused than in Digital Photo Professional (the software that comes with my Canon).

At first I thought it was when I was exporting them, but no - it looks this way when I look at it in Lightroom as well...

Is this normal, or is something wrong? Is it because it converts the RAW to a JPeg before you start work on it? Help!

I'm also losing SO much sharpness when I convert to JPeg and resize to 800xwhatever to post online. (in Digital Photo Professional as well)... This is especially true when I need to sharpen the RAW a bit first before I save it. Once it's sharpened in RAW, it looks perfect, but then when I convert it it's a blurry mess. Can't it take those changes over to JPeg??

Basically, comparing my Lightroom and converted/reduced JPeg versions against the original RAW, they look much softer. Even when I sharpen afterwards (although I only do this in DPP too, haven't worked out how to do it well in PS yet).

This shot was a tad soft SOOC, so I sharpened it with good results in RAW, but this is what you get once you convert it to JPeg and reduce in DPP. Perhaps it's because I'm looking at it on a big screen and it's reduced, perhaps it will look better smaller, here:

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And edited in Lightroom, then size reduced in DPP:

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Another question whilst I'm here, I've been practising sharpening and eye popping using the brush tool in Lightroom, am I overdoing it? Here's an example (maybe you can see that this one I've had less problem with mainly because the image was sharper in the first place, I think. I've also used the spot remover and soften skin function on this picture:

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I'm also feeling that I'd like a MUCH higher hit rate focus-wise, I want to start offering free shoots to friends with kids for practise and start a blog, so I need to be able to rely on my focusing. But I'll start a thread in the right place for that.
 
Initial thoughs - when you convert to 800 pix and then put on flickr (as I do) they look so soft. From now I'll be posting full res to flickr (as i used to do until very recently) and then putting the medium size one on here.

HTH
 
Resize then sharpen for web is the way to do it..........not the other way around.

Sharpening should be the last thing you do before hitting the save and upload buttons
 
Do a search for MCP actions, it is free and it will blow you away with the clarity it provides.
 
Do a search for MCP actions, it is free and it will blow you away with the clarity it provides.

OK, thanks! I've yet to use actions as I was scared that I might not learn the basics properly if I did that first, BUT if it's just for one aspect like sharpening, that shouldn't be a danger.

I'm having trouble seeing a different between my daughter in first and second go..... but I think I've been looking at them for too long now :nuts:
 
When I use lightroom, I export to a folder for web but in the export setting I stipulate the size and sharpening amount, I don't usually touch the sharpening sliders in the development module.
 
can you post a link to a raw file?

Sign up to Microsoft Live.you need an msn account I think. You can store your raw files on there and we can download them to have a look at.
 
Yes I'll do that then, later on.... I'll try and post a selection of images I'd like to edit for a blog/site. Many of them look sharp to me but some I know AREN'T sharp enough in the SOOC, but looked good once I sharpened them with the basic sharpen slider in DPP. It's just then finding a way to keep that improved sharpness when they're edited in LR, and reduced in size, for the interweb!
 
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