Policing for who?

[Phil V]

And I would have done you for assault.

The truth is of course you wouldn't have said it in a pub. In fact the idea you might have is quite a compliment.

 

[dejongj]

??? Sorry I do not understand what you mean by that. Anything I've said in this thread I would say in a pub or working mans club and too your face. I really don't see the issue you take with it. You make sweeping statements about businesses and how they treat their employees and I'm merely highlighting that if that is your view than you can't have had much experience with it as the fast majority aren't like that at all.

Then again as you say, you run a business. Do you treat your staff like that?

 

[SarahLee]

OK time to draw a line under this particular line of conversation because it's starting to get far too personal.

Kelly already posted a warning further up the thread, so can we get back to the original topic of debate please?

 

[StewartR]

Hmm. Do I sense some double standards here?

Exhibit A:

Businesses have a myopic view of the world and if more profit means cutting h&s corners they'd do it every time.

@Phil V - I own and run a business, and I take offence at that.

Don't take it personally Stewart

Exhibit B:

It sounds too me like you haven't lived and have a very warped view of what big (or small) business is about.

Well you were entitled to your opinion until the last bit, which crosses the line. I'll accept an apology or it can go to the mods.

So it's OK for you throw out gratuitous personal insults Phil, because we shouldn't take it personally? But when you don't like it, it's time to complain to the mods?

Yeah, that seems fair.

 

[SarahLee]

Stewart, looking at the timings of posts, you may well have been typing when I posted - but seriously, time to drop it and move on now.

 

[Blank_Canvas]

Ironic that a thread entitled 'policing for who?' Is acutely being policed !

 

[big soft moose]

so can we get back to the original topic of debate please?

you may have to remind us what that was...

 

[SarahLee]

you may have to remind us what that was...

You don't really expect me to read back through 6 whole pages to try to figure it out do you?

 

[Tigger.ufo]

You don't really expect me to read back through 6 whole pages to try to figure it out do you?

Nah, just close it!

 

[viv1969]

You don't really expect me to read back through 6 whole pages to try to figure it out do you?

Humor him.....it might be a necessity

 

[BBR]

Companies that take this approach will not prosper.

Successful businesses realise that their greatest resource are the people they employ. I have personally proven this several times when running significant parts of large organisations. You want to attract the best people, you need to develop them and keep them, every employee should be adding value (or what's the point in employing them) and therefore you need to look after them. I think if you are managing properly then unions become largely redundant. In the 1970's one reason the unions became so disruptive was to due to p*** poor management.

The other point I would make is that 'You can't manage it if you can't measure it' the key though is defining 'it'.

Getting back to the original post, IMO stopping and catching men who want to rape children surely must be priority number 1 bar nothing, it saddens me that anyone would do anything to divert necessary resources from this whatever targets they had and even if it put their own job at risk.