Police and Photographers

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This happened to me back in May.
I decided to go up London and do some photography etc, and visit the butterfly house and science and history museum for some photos etc.

So I hop on a tube line to Westminster and there are these 3 Americans on there and I over here them talking. They say Is this the line that goes under the channel....... I can tell you right now everyone in the carriage gave them strange looks; they got off the next stop.

So I am walking around London by big Ben etc and taking a few photos of it and the London eye, when some guy comes up to me with a D300 (I have the D200) he is taking photos of things and we get talking etc and I find out he does photography work for the companies who do those London postcards etc and so on.

Anyway I leave and continue walking down towards embankment and hop on a train to London Bridge. I take a few photos there when I’m stopped by police.

There were like 3 of them and they all come to me and I am thinking what I have done. They were like Sir just stays there. They then say we are stopping you on suspicion of a robbery. I am like come again?!?! We have reason to believe you have committed a robbery. Your description fits. They then take my name and address etc, and make me sit in the back of the police car while this is going on. You have NO idea how embarrassing this is, as I had gathered a mini crowed. Around 20 mins later they say you’re free to go. So I continue on my way.

An hour later guess what? Some other police men come and guess what. Oh yes it happens again, I explain I have been pulled over once for this etc but they don’t appear to be listening to me. They then radio in the dispatcher checks my information, and then I hear the dreaded word. Bring him in. They were like you’re going to have to come to the station with us, I am like why, they were like for ID checks, and the fact your name is flagged up.

So I go to the police station they take my finger prints and check the database and no match, they were like we are sorry and I am like this is the 2nd time this has happened to me. They never even offered to drop me back to where I was, I had to ask for directions.

So anyway I get my way back to the London eye to finish some photos there, I’m just walking back from around the back end of the eye when a police man walks around the corner behind me, I think nothing of it, until another one walks in front of me, and they were like sir please stop. I am thinking to myself if you pull me over for that robbery thing I am going to go mad.

They were like what have you been taking photos off; I am like the London eye. They were like we are going to have to ask you show us, so I show them the pictures. Then they are like you can't take photos here I am like excuse me there are others around here doing the same. They then wanted to search my equipment, I am like no as its some expensive stuff and I don’t want it broken. They were like fine you’re going to have to come with us, and then out of the blue this other photographer comes over and says to the police what are you doing, they were like we don’t have to explain to you, and then comes the funny bit, yes you do and he pulls out a police id badge that says detective constable on it. He then went on to explain and argue it with the other officers. He then came over to me and said are you all right I said yes, and he said I will be speaking to their Commanding officer about this, as it's appalling the way some seem to think they can boss around photographers like this. He then said should this happen to you again just point them in my direction. (He gave me his card and name etc)

At this point I was so dam annoyed I just went home

What is it with police now days where they see a photographer and are like get him!!!! Yet people with point and shoots they ignore!!!
 
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It happened in May, and you are telling us now.

I'm guessing you are still bitter and traumatised :)
 
Get a life and grip on reality.
 
The police arn't legally allowed to search you without reason unless it's under the terrorism act, so they were not permitted to search your bags.

Taking photos in a public place of (more or less) anything from said public place is completely legal.

You don't even have to show them your photos.
 
that sounds like the worst day ever....
 
I'd suggest a complaint to the IPCC for the way you were treated over the robbery thing.

I'd also demand your fingerprints are not kept on record - ditto if they took any samples for DNA.

I wonder how bad this police state is going to get
 
Wow, sounds like a bad day.

So I hop on a tube line to Westminster and there are these 3 Americans on there and I over here them talking. They say Is this the line that goes under the channel....... I can tell you right now everyone in the carriage gave them strange looks; they got off the next stop.

I like that bit.
 
perhaps some sort of pm from admin to all stating your legal rights as an individual on what the police/security can and cannt do and what you should say and do in return.

Telling the police to do one is obviously not one !!!
 
What is it with police now days where they see a photographer and are like get him!!!! Yet people with point and shoots they ignore!!!


Perhaps they justed liked you...........like :shrug:
 
The police arn't legally allowed to search you without reason unless it's under the terrorism act, so they were not permitted to search your bags.

Taking photos in a public place of (more or less) anything from said public place is completely legal.

You don't even have to show them your photos.

but i thought they suspected him of half inching something ? hence the could i have a look in your bag bit
 
The police arn't legally allowed to search you without reason unless it's under the terrorism act, so they were not permitted to search your bags.

Incorrect.
 
Incorrect.

Please explain?

Police cannot stop and search a person unless they have reasonable suspicion they are committing a crime. Taking photographs in a public place of one of London's biggest tourist attractions is not grounds for a search.

He would have been stopped under the terrorism act. The police however were in the wrong to search hims under this and could be described as misuse of an act.
 
Please explain?

Police cannot stop and search a person unless they have reasonable suspicion they are committing a crime. Taking photographs in a public place of one of London's biggest tourist attractions is not grounds for a search.

He would have been stopped under the terrorism act. The police however were in the wrong to search hims under this and could be described as misuse of an act.

You are wrong.
 
Glad to see your formulating a constructive argument,

Please correct me, rather than just stating i am wrong

I do not need to construct an argument with anyone so misinformed as you are.

Thanks.
 
Taken from this months BJP:

"NPIA reminds officers that public photography is lawful

The National Policing Improvement Agency has reminded police officers that photography in public places is legal in its Practice Advice guide to stop-and-search powers under the Terrorism Act of 2000.

The guide, put together on behalf of the Association of Chief Police Officers, states that stop-and-search powers under the Act are exceptional and should only be used in specific circumstances. Plus, it adds, the Act 'does not prohibit people from taking photographs or digital images in areas where an authority under section 44 is in place. Officers should not prevent people taking photographs unless they are in an area where photography is prevented by other legislation'."
 
Does that lead to the suggestion that photography of London's land marks is classed as street crime, anti social behavior or an attribute to a serious crime.

The photographer could be the victim of the anti-social behaviour and the search would be valid. An example would be a crowd of people objecting to the photographer's activities and causing a disturbance.
Sadly, we appear to have reached this point in some isolated incidents. A citizen was warned about taking photographs of youths commiting vadalism in case it promulgted a disturbance.

Bob
 
I was going to suggest to the op I would have enjoyed reading it had he not used the word "like" as often as he did, but I see other members took it upon themselves to get their point over by mocking him in their replies.
This was only the 4th post by by the op and probably his last thanks to your comments, can we not be a bit kinder in future to new members.:nono:
 
I was going to suggest to the op I would have enjoyed reading it had he not used the word "like" as often as he did, but I see other members took it upon themselves to get their point over by mocking him in their replies.
This was only the 4th post by by the op and probably his last thanks to your comments, can we not be a bit kinder in future to new members.:nono:

Was actually his 3rd ;)

Haha :lol:

Is this story for real?

Well I seriously didn't think it was!
 
I kinda like, read that whole post like, u kno..
Sounds like a pretty fun day actually, like this one time... the cops pulled me over... like.
 
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