PLEASE help with the monochromatic blues?

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Hi. I am working on my ARPS panel (still) and I have decided that for my resubmission I want to make the images the same blue; they are all blue but not the same blue. This is now driving me mad! I have tried the following, after advice from an experienced PS user and Internet tutorials:

1 - convert to black and white, use the colour dropper and and note down the numbers to enter in the tint box. This worked really well on one and on the next one produced something with a really strong cyan. A different effect, with the same numbers applied produce different casts..some a bit yellow, some a bit magenta.

2- go to Nik Colour EfEx, use a preset and tweak that. I thought this was going really well and then, opening them again today, I could see that they had a magenta cast; the colour cast wouldn't go away.

3- I tried Colour Match using the neutralise option and it made the colour cast worse. Tweaking the sliders brings out other colours.

4- I have tried converting to black and white and using the curves blue. This was quite dark and perhaps the most effective on the image I tried but it was more dark grey than blue in many places.

So, my question is... How can I get the same blue and eradicate cyans eg that turn up?
Thanks for reading..fingers crossed.
 
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Do you have any visual examples of what you are trying to accomplish?
 
They are slow shutter speed birds for a visual arts panel. I don't have an online presence so not sure I can post them but can I PM an image on here or, if you were willing to give me your email address in a PM I could send a JPEG of the panel. Thanks.
 
It sounds like there sort of thing where split toning in Lightroom might do the trick, but without seeing the images is difficult to understand what your problem is.

In the absence of another option, you should have a forum gallery for sharing the images if you choose to use it. Instructions are available in the tutorial section of the forum.
 
Not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but if you take the black and white image into Photoshop (or just make it black and white in Photoshop), then add a layer above, change the blend mode to "colour" and fill it with blue. Does that look like you want it to?

If you then do the same to all images, they will match. Not saying that's going to be the best for each individual image, but they will all match.
 
You know that Nik also has a split-toning section? Try using that instead of PS (which is plainly not helping - I'd guess there's an uncontrolled variable you're not aware of).

Something I've found is that if tones are adjusted AFTER a split tone or tint has been added then it can very easily change the appearance of the image unintentionally, so only do your tinting as the very last step..
 
Ok thanks everybody. I'm remembering my club chairman saying that answer is yes now what is the question about Photoshop. So I will persevere and try these.
 
There are lots of ways to do the toning but if you can do it in adjustment layers without masks then duplicating across other images should be easy.

One way.. Instead of using a CFX preset do the toning in PS with a hue & saturation adjustment layer, check the colourise box and restrict the effect to highlights / shadows as desired with blend if.
Then duplicate that layer from one image to the others.
 
Jayst84 said:
Not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but if you take the black and white image into Photoshop (or just make it black and white in Photoshop), then add a layer above, change the blend mode to "colour" and fill it with blue. Does that look like you want it to?

If you then do the same to all images, they will match. Not saying that's going to be the best for each individual image, but they will all match.
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Hi, well I have done the same to the first two images ie apply the same preset so the alogorithms are exactly the same and they do not match. Even after doing a Match Colour to eliminate the cast it still doesn't remove it. O bother... Find myself wanting to chuck this lot in the bin.
 
juggler said:
There are lots of ways to do the toning but if you can do it in adjustment layers without masks then duplicating across other images should be easy.

One way.. Instead of using a CFX preset do the toning in PS with a hue & saturation adjustment layer, check the colourise box and restrict the effect to highlights / shadows as desired with blend if.
Then duplicate that layer from one image to the others.
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Thanks I will try this. I do not know about BLEND IF so will look that up on the net.
 
I have tried this - without the Blend if at this stage - and I do have a set of similar images finally. Thank you. I will still need to work on them some more but I have a set now that are all at the same starting point. IF you are ever near Ross on Wye, Juggler, PM me and I will buy you a pint! Or coffee or whatever.. :ty: I might be back for more advice. :D
 
Chipper said:
I have tried this - without the Blend if at this stage - and I do have a set of similar images finally. Thank you. I will still need to work on them some more but I have a set now that are all at the same starting point. IF you are ever near Ross on Wye, Juggler, PM me and I will buy you a pint! Or coffee or whatever.. :ty: I might be back for more advice. :D
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You're welcome :)

The hidden feature of blend if - which is a hidden feature in itself - is that you can split the little sliders by pressing alt to feather the effect. I won't try to explain the whole thing from memory as I'll probably get some important detail wrong.
 
Sorry for taking so long to come back about this - seems like you have a solution that works for you now :) If you have to do this type of thing again, try experimenting with Gradient Maps, as it allows great flexibility for adjusting shadow, mid tone and highlight colours so that you can fine tune each image to get the same overall visual balance.
 
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