Pixel Knight TR 332 Triggers, thoughts..?

[Tyler138]

Anyone had any experience with these..?

Someone just mentioned these to me saying they are a good way to have high sync speeds with OCF. Which is just what i need.

All i want basically is to be able to set the flashes in manual and have a faster syn then 1/250th, would these be up to the job and draw backs that i am not thinking of..?

So anyone had any experience with these good or bad..?

Thanks,

Tyler

 

[HoppyUK]

I have no experience but they have a pretty bad rep. Search around, try www.photography-on-the.net

But you can get remote high speed sync with the Canon E-TTL system. I don't think it's available with the 7D's on-board - I'm not sure why, it only needs to send the codes as per any other slave mode.

But anyway, it's available with any other master unit, or with a cord. Check out the Yongnuo ST-E2 master unit clone - £80 eebay. Good rep on that little bargain jobbie

 

[Tyler138]

I have no experience but they have a pretty bad rep. Search around, try www.photography-on-the.net

But you can get remote high speed sync with the Canon E-TTL system. I don't think it's available with the 7D's on-board - I'm not sure why, it only needs to send the codes as per any other slave mode.

But anyway, it's available with any other master unit, or with a cord. Check out the Yongnuo ST-E2 master unit clone - £80 eebay. Good rep on that little bargain jobbie

Ok cheers, will have a nose about there.

Is the something like a canon version of this, triggers that can do HSS with about a massive price tag like the pocket wizards

 

[HoppyUK]

Ok cheers, will have a nose about there.

Is the something like a canon version of this, triggers that can do HSS with about a massive price tag like the pocket wizards

Yongnuo ST-E2 is a Canon ST-E2 clone, ie infra-red, but better (more range, rotating head, AA batteries) and half the price. AF-assist beam is said to be useless though!

 

[Tyler138]

Cheers was looking at the canon St e2 but was unsure about the infa- red. I didn't want to spend all that on the canon one n have problems, so I might look into the youngnuo one if it's cheaper.

Do you need line of sight with them..? Just unsure about it as I will be using the outside.

 

[Tyler138]

Also with the Youngnuo ST-E2 can you mix flashes, as i have a canon 430exii and a YN 460ii.

I might get the Youngnuo as its cheap and keep my rf602's incase.

 

[HoppyUK]

Ste2 cheers was looking at the canon St e2 but was unsure about the infa- red. I didn't want to spend all that on the canon one n have problems, so I might look into the youngnuo one if it's cheaper.

Do you need line of sight with them..? Just unsure about it as I will be using the outside.

Outdoors is difficult with IR. Yes, you need line of sight, which is where the rotating head comes in. I imagine it's similar to using a 580EX as master, and I find that's actually more reliable than some folks give it credit for, but when it gets sunny, or there's any distance involved, well, you could get stuck.

One way around that is to put the master on a cord, to keep the master-to-flash distance down, but that's hassle.

You can do remote HSS with regular manual triggers, or at least I've done it. It might not work with all guns, but if you first fire a remote slave gun in HSS mode using the Canon system, the gun retains that setting next time it receives a firing signal.

You need a trigger like the Yongnuo RF-602, which uses some of the E-TTL contacts (look at the foot) so the gun gets fooled, and it works with that and my 580EX guns. For the triggering signal, you need another HSS enabled gun (I use a 270EX) to trip an optical slave plugged into the RF-602 transmitter. It's a bit of a workaround, but gives you manual HSS with a cheap radio trigger at distance and under all conditions. You can get remote second curtain sync with it too, which you can't in any other way at all this side of Pocket Wizards.

Also with the Youngnuo ST-E2 can you mix flashes, as i have a canon 430exii and a YN 460ii.

I might get the Youngnuo as its cheap and keep my rf602's incase.

Any master unit will fire any E-TTL enabled slave gun, and any number of them on the same channel.

 

[Tyler138]

One way around that is to put the master on a cord, to keep the master-to-flash distance down, but that's hassle.

You can do remote HSS with regular manual triggers, or at least I've done it. It might not work with all guns, but if you first fire a remote slave gun in HSS mode using the Canon system, the gun retains that setting next time it receives a firing signal.

You need a trigger like the Yongnuo RF-602, which uses some of the E-TTL contacts (look at the foot) so the gun gets fooled, and it works with that and my 580EX guns. For the triggering signal, you need another HSS enabled gun (I use a 270EX) to trip an optical slave plugged into the RF-602 transmitter. It's a bit of a workaround, but gives you manual HSS with a cheap radio trigger at distance and under all conditions. You can get remote second curtain sync with it too, which you can't in any other way at all this side of Pocket Wizards.

sounds good but a bit confusing. Any tutorials or anything about or have you just found this out yourself..? Would like to look into this further.

 

[HoppyUK]

sounds good but a bit confusing. Any tutorials or anything about or have you just found this out yourself..? Would like to look into this further.

No tutorials - I must have invented it

It's an extension of a popular method of getting remote second-curtain sync, which is not available with the standard Canon system. You attach an optical slave to a gun and that picks up and transmits the flash signal, whatever it may be - first curtain, second curtain, or the high speed sync trigger which goes out very early, fractionally before the shutter even opens. Like this, though I now have a rather neater version using a cheapy 270EX.

That pulls the trigger out of the camera, but the trick is to then get the remote gun to fire in HSS mode, which the 580EX won't do unless you fox it. I don't know how other guns play with this (I suspect similar) but my 580EX guns will fire in HSS slave mode, providing they have been previously fired in this mode using a regular Canon master unit.

You then plug it into the RF-602 receiver and it will continue to fire in HSS mode, at the power level previously set. If you want to adjust the power, you've got to go through the priming procedure again at the new level.

It works great I use it to fire four HSS guns together, which is handy to restore some of the power lost through HSS operation.