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anyone heard anything through the great vine?

I really want a set to fix the few foibles my 602s have and to give me more redundancy

also intrigued by the new phottix flash if they're selling them over here

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I've been watching the development of these since they were announced a while back, the hints from the manufacturer Charles Verghese* suggested a rrp of around £50, however the Strobist post quotes $115 in Singapore, which would end up translating to around £115-120 over here, which is awfully close to the price of the real thing....







*"I came back the next day and decided to buy 3 of the (not yet officially released) Phottix Atlas for just a little over the price of 1 Plus II from PocketWizard" Source: Clash of the titans - Charles Verghese's blog
 
£120 for a knockoff pocket wizard from china... well damn, they're crazy. onestop do the real thing for £130....

£35-50 a unit and we might have been talking :( shame, they looked pretty neat.
 
balls if they were nearer 602 money I'd be buying the cleon seems to be a 602 with a locking pin on the tx which would be nice, espesh if it worked with my existing 602s
 
DH talks about the range being "at least that of the PWs" which would be 500 metres,however Phottix themselves are only quoting a range of 100m. DH's info comes from a review by Charles Verghese which does seem to show promise of the ability to fire over PW-like distances.

The one thing that worried me from the review was the phantom triggering, which also crops up with YongNuo's CTR-301, making me wonder if these "new" ones aren't simply a tinkered-with version of one of the old 433hz systems in a PW-clone case.
 
david1701 said:
balls if they were nearer 602 money I'd be buying the cleon seems to be a 602 with a locking pin on the tx which would be nice, espesh if it worked with my existing 602s
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:agree:

I can't see anything wrong with the 602's apart from the lack of a locking pin. If I really wanted to be picky, I'd like to see the transmitter look as sleek as the receivers but that's not exactly a deal-breaker! :)

Si
 
The trouble with Phottix is they have an official EU distributor channel that you need to go through. I signed up as a dealer with them, but when the price list arrived their wholesale prices were higher than the factory were punting the stuff on Ebay for :shrug:
 
Would the triggers be ttl?

I bought cheapo ebay triggers and they are just manual. With these would I be able to change power settings. (50d has this is if a flash is hotshoe mounted)
 
the locking pin is my only real issue - I'm a clumsy oaf and am gonna lose another soon and they aint that cheap
 
I could do with another pair tbh as that way I'd have a spare for each and maybe a dead long ttl cable but not right now as I'm dropping a lot on darkroom kit
 
I think I might have a Canon (?) tx that was DOA, if you want you can have it for nowt, see if you can coax some life out of it...
 
my flashes all use screwlock pc to 3.5mm jack cables now, my old triggers (that are actually pretty good with decent AAAs in and a cable connection rather than their crummy hot shoe) do the job, but not over massive distances, and don't take much of a beating... AAAs are pretty annoying too - all of these reasons were what was making me look towards a new solution... think I'll eventually end up with pws in a year or so's time, buy well buy once and all that...
 
Interested in seeing what these finally retail at, seriously need triggers. CLS has become a limit.
 
33L said:
Interesting, wil lbe looking forward to the canon models when they do come out.
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There's a user review here (applies to the Nikon version)....

"the normal pre-flash does not appear to be used for TTL calculations with the TR-331 trigger, the flash appears to be dumping full power or close to it each time it is fired by the wireless trigger."

The fact that cotswoldphoto, who are the self-proclaimed "European distrubutor" for these products have never listed them for sale would suggest that they're a waste of time...
 
Back to the Phottix Atlas. From Steve at Phottix:
The Phantom triggering problem and "hinky" burst mode has been corrected - the reviews were based on pre-production models, not the final. Syncing speed is 1/250 on cameras that will sync that fast (my 40D will sync with the Atlas at 1/250 no problem). The FCC models will be FCC approved - and should be on the street by late July.
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itsdavedotnet said:
£87?...just....wow. no.
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Selbosh said:
Back to the Phottix Atlas.

From Steve at Phottix:
The Phantom triggering problem and "hinky" burst mode has been corrected - the reviews were based on pre-production models, not the final. Syncing speed is 1/250 on cameras that will sync that fast (my 40D will sync with the Atlas at 1/250 no problem). The FCC models will be FCC approved - and should be on the street by late July.
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£50 each I could see them selling well, but well over £200 a pair (with the VAT/import duty)? As Dave says "no".
 
yes. Calumet have them, order code CF0085, as their new 'pro series' flash triggers. £83 each. Not yet on their website for some reason.

cheaper than the few sellers on ebay and the like.
 
They look great but for that money I'll stuck with skyports - ultra reliable, handle any weather and have good range
 
I have a personal hatred of skysports as the only flash trigger that I have ever used that completely refused to work - at all despite using 2 tx's 3 rx's and fresh batteries, I think it was something to do with whatever the guy who's they were doing something awful to them, but its stuck in my mind a bit and scares the crap outta me as I've always been able to bodge something into working (and canon flashes have no SU-4 mode)
 
I've had a really good experience with Skyports, since I moved to them from a frustratingly unreliable RF-602 set. I like the fact the battery in the receivers is mains charged (or car charged) so I generally can always keep them full. The transmitter annoys me now and then because of that stupid flat CR2 battery it requires.

Not had a problem with them otherwise - have withstood some serious downpours and kept working even after my SB-800 decides to shut up shop!!! :)

I know this takes things a bit off topic - sorry OP :)
 
I did read somewhere that someone was using them with there PW would this mean that the PW card for Bowens would work with the Atlas as this will be the main reason for me getting one :) cheaper alternative :)
 
Pat I honest to god think he had done something awful to them as I hear good things but I've used atlas's and pocketwizards at the same time (guy I assist bought an atlas to test, found it was nicer than his PWs and flogged the lot buying something like 10 atlas's direct from phottix) and my biggest gripe with rf 602s is losing the tx (happened several times) and breaking the awful proprietary cable fittings (again several times)
 
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Pat I honest to god think he had done something awful to them as I hear good things but I've used atlas's and pocketwizards at the same time (guy I assist bought an atlas to test, found it was nicer than his PWs and flogged the lot buying something like 10 atlas's direct from phottix) and my biggest gripe with rf 602s is losing the tx (happened several times) and breaking the awful proprietary cable fittings (again several times)
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Not much info on the calumet site but do you get cables with the atlas to connect to the studio head?

[edit] scratch that :) found a video.
 
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It'll be interesting to see how reliable/robust the Chinese triggers are in the long term compared to PWs.....
 
Flash In The Pan said:
It'll be interesting to see how reliable/robust the Chinese triggers are in the long term compared to PWs.....
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yeah, definitely. On face value, they look better in some ways - namely the metal hot shoe, that everyone and their dog seems to break the plastic one on the pws of...
 
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