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:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang: AAGGHHH
does any one else find this bloody programme impossible to use!
Ive just downloaded the tree trial of Elements 10. I thought id try to add a dramatic sky to a car photo with a blown sky. like so many of car photos I see. can I do it can a F*** I Don't know what the hell to do! ive got the sky on top of my pic but it doesn't fit etc and there's no options available to me. right now I just want to smash this damn thing!

Is there some sort of degree course needed?
 
There courses run at my local collage for this and as soon as the next one comes up I am on it, I get like you at times as I just cannot figure it out, but then again I learne by watching and actually doing it for my self as opposed to just being told.

spike
 
Hey Spike. Ill have to have a look to see if there are any courses at my local college.
i normally learn like you also by doing but, i just cant get to grips with it. very frustrating cooled down some what now lol.


Dave no they are different but i thought it would be simple to change sizes etc.
 
Ive just acquired PS 5.5 and dont have a clue even though my wife is a whiz with it and uses it for a living we only end up arguing so i plan on doing it at night school.
 
Quickshooter said:
Hey Spike. Ill have to have a look to see if there are any courses at my local college.
i normally learn like you also by doing but, i just cant get to grips with it. very frustrating cooled down some what now lol.


Dave no they are different but i thought it would be simple to change sizes etc.
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as said never used it but is the not a transform tool or resize that layer
 
if you get the sky you want,
use quick selection tool to select sky, then ctrl-c
bring back pic you want to put sky in,
create new layer
select sky you want to be replace,
go to edit, choose paste into selection,
if sky doesnt quite fit expanding with bounding box,
 
Thank you for your reply's ill will keep on trying lol. Walter i will try what you have said and see how it works out.

Are these courses different form college to college or is it a national thing
 
Learning Photoshop takes a lot of time, especially complex operations like replacing elements in the image is very difficult to do seamlessly. Read tutorials and practice and you'll start to understand things gradually.
 
olelovold said:
Learning Photoshop takes a lot of time, especially complex operations like replacing elements in the image is very difficult to do seamlessly. Read tutorials and practice and you'll start to understand things gradually.
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Im glad some one has said its hard and complex as i think the thing that wound me up the most was watching/listening to youtube tutorials kept saying how easy and basic it is! :razz: lol.
after all this time! today ive managed to to sort it out now on an easier photo. Im pleased with the end result. Thank you for all you pointers
 
Quickshooter said:
Im glad some one has said its hard and complex as i think the thing that wound me up the most was watching/listening to youtube tutorials kept saying how easy and basic it is! :razz: lol.
after all this time! today ive managed to to sort it out now on an easier photo. Im pleased with the end result. Thank you for all you pointers
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Learning Photoshop to a high standard requires the same level of dedicated effort as learning any other aspect of photography - and is just as important. Leaning how to finish your photos is every bit as important as learning how to actually take them. And there are no short cuts. Learn the basics, then move on to advanced sky replacement stuff. You have to learn scales before you tackle Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat major.

Call you local college. They should put you in touch with whoever is tutoring their courses, so you can talk it over. Unless it is a formal course with an award - GCSE, AS Level etc - it will be written and taught by a tutor to suit the needs of the class. For example, the `beginning dSLR photography` courses that I teach at my local college cover both camera and Photoshop basics, run for 10 two-hour evening sessions and will cost £108 for the one starting in January. I regularly get calls from people wanting to know if a course will suit their needs.
 
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Defo start off with basic stuff learning what the tools do etc, create simple text and shapes and learn how to change the size/rotate/distort etc first before jumping in at the deep end and getting annoyed.... I know, been there.

I'm sure there's photoshop tuts on youtube for beginners, explaining what some of the tools do etc.
 
jon ryan said:
Learning Photoshop to a high standard requires the same level of dedicated effort as learning any other aspect of photography - and is just as important. Leaning how to finish your photos is every bit as important as learning how to actually take them. And there are no short cuts. Learn the basics, then move on to advanced sky replacement stuff. You have to learn scales before you tackle Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat major.

Call you local college. They should put you in touch with whoever is tutoring their courses, so you can talk it over. Unless it is a formal course with an award - GCSE, AS Level etc - it will be written and taught by a tutor to suit the needs of the class. For example, the `beginning dSLR photography` courses that I teach at my local college cover both camera and Photoshop basics, run for 10 two-hour evening sessions and will cost £108 for the one starting in January. I regularly get calls from people wanting to know if a course will suit their needs.
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I am starting to see how import the editing is now. When I first started photography people were telling me to concentrate on Photoshop etc but I decided not to. I wanted to learn photography and how to take a photo, instead of being a Photoshop whizz and making poor! snaps into really good photos like so many people today. I guess form your Piano example you mean walk before you run :lol: i have no idea about anything classical of involving piano's :D

Yes I will ring some colleges see what they say :thumbs:
 
SimonC said:
Defo start off with basic stuff learning what the tools do etc, create simple text and shapes and learn how to change the size/rotate/distort etc first before jumping in at the deep end and getting annoyed.... I know, been there.

I'm sure there's photoshop tuts on youtube for beginners, explaining what some of the tools do etc.
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Think im going to look at some courses to help with the harder stuff. im ok at the easier stuff to be fair. I created my own copyright Signature Brush yesterday which is nice :)
 
SAVA9E said:
Ive just acquired PS 5.5 and dont have a clue even though my wife is a whiz with it and uses it for a living we only end up arguing so i plan on doing it at night school.
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This will work out expensive!!!

I imagine almost all courses will be teaching PS using CS5, so have a budget to buy it because you will be MEGA frustrated to find tools that have WOW'ed you on your course, simply do not exist in PS 5.5.
 
Liam

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Regards
Keith
 
I've spent many an hour effing and blinding at my PC when using Elements.
My favourite mistake is to not realise Ive got a layer mask selected instead of the actual image layer and then when I try and use magic wand or quick selection tool it picks up the whole screen or doesnt find the edges I want. Im starting to learn to check my layer Im on now when it appears not to be working right.
 
jm2 said:
There are loads of tutorials on youtube.
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Seconded on the above, failing that the tutorials that Scott Kelby writes for photoshop programs don't come any easier to understand in my opinion, try HERE this one will be released shortly ;)
 
what is the difference betwee CS4 and photoshop elements? I had the full version of elements 8 on my laptop when I purchased it, but uninstalled it I as couldn't understand how to use it. I'm so used to CS4.
 
Search for Russell Brown photoshop tutorials. He is a real wizard. Learn a few steps at a time and be patient. Not many people know the full capabilities of Photoshop.

Have fun, and try this link for starters. Even watching tips for advanced users will allow you to catch some tidbits.
http://russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html
Dr. Brown has quite a few different sites. :cool:
He can seem a little 'strange' at times but it is in good fun.:bonk:
 
Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced course in London? I have photoshop 8 on my puter and I haven't a scooby.
 
Like jm2 said utube. That's where I learnt a lot of stuff. I have a laptop next to the desktop, watch and pause on the laptop and follow along on the desktop
 
Quickshooter said:
:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang: AAGGHHH
does any one else find this bloody programme impossible to use!
Ive just downloaded the tree trial of Elements 10. I thought id try to add a dramatic sky to a car photo with a blown sky. like so many of car photos I see. can I do it can a F*** I Don't know what the hell to do! ive got the sky on top of my pic but it doesn't fit etc and there's no options available to me. right now I just want to smash this damn thing!

Is there some sort of degree course needed?
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Then perhaps you should buY OR even download the FULL version of Photoshop CS5, free for 30 dAYS

PSE 10 is limited to what can be acheived as it contains only ELEMENTS of a full Photoshop Programme like CS5 etc

There are plenty of tutorials available on YouTube, you'll be amazed just what you CAN do with an Elements programme, worth a quick look in my opinion

Smashing the PC is a last resort :lol:

Good luck

Les :thumbs:
 
PSE can do virtually everything you are likely to need for day-to-day photography. I regularly use PSE 9 for professional work. It's certainly got enough in it to keep you quiet through the dark winter evenings.

But, Photoshop is hard! Like everything else in photography, you really have to work at it if you want to become competent.
 
TG. said:
Seconded on the above, failing that the tutorials that Scott Kelby writes for photoshop programs don't come any easier to understand in my opinion, try HERE this one will be released shortly ;)
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Tel,

I also have problems and have put an Elements 10 book on my Christmas list, However, I read that Adobe were producing their own book, due in print end of this month and perhaps it's more up to date and more detailed being made by the software makers? :shrug:
 
I might invest in a book :) ive gotten better at it now through youtube and other links etc
Thanks Keith.
 
Being a loooong time Photoshop user (since version 2), I'm at what you'd consider expert level in the application, and let me assure you, it's really not that hard to learn. It's just a matter of understanding what tools are in there. Familiarity is the biggest hurdle to overcome - the rest of it is down to your own skill in terms of painting, drawing masks, etc.

Frankly I wouldn't even suggest doing a course; I learned the majority of Photoshop on my own before I even went to college where we studied it, and since this was in the days before the internet as we know it, I did so on my own through trial and error. Sure, a course may get you there faster but it'll end up costing you a whack. Get a good book and work through it.
 
onona said:
Being a loooong time Photoshop user (since version 2), I'm at what you'd consider expert level in the application, and let me assure you, it's really not that hard to learn. It's just a matter of understanding what tools are in there. Familiarity is the biggest hurdle to overcome - the rest of it is down to your own skill in terms of painting, drawing masks, etc.
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Learning what the tools can do is the easy bit, getting it to look good takes time and effort :)
Start youtubing the different tools and you should be able to get examples of how to use them.
From your problem, it sounds like you need to select the 'sky' layer, use the selection tool to draw a box around it Edit->Transform and stretch to fit. Then apply a layer mask on the top layer.
 
yeah that sounds like what I did in the end I think I found a vid on youtube and followed that :)
 
Brian....................... I was talking about an Elements 10 book!
 
Photo Cafe do very good tutorials. Just google it.
 
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