Photoshop/Lightroom Alternatives

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Using Photoshop and Lightroom via Creative Cloud for almost a year now. Personally I find it is more complex and advanced than I personally need. Therefore Im looking at alternatives.

I'm halfway through a trial of DXO Optics Pro 11 Elite and I like it a lot. However, before I commit to paying £150 for a piece of software and want to know if there are any others for the Windows platform that people can recommend.

Google brings up many alternatives but I want real user experience!

Thanks
 



A windows version will come out in September 2016
of the pixel editor I've been using with great pleasure
on my MACs since almost two years.

It is a UK made software called Affinity Photo… love it!
 
Thanks for the reply. I did see on a thread that you use Affinity Photo. How complicated is it to use?
 
you use Affinity Photo. How complicated is it to use?


It is an elaborate piece of software so a degree
of sophistication comes in the package but if
you used PS before… no sweat is insight.
 
For Cataloging your Photos have a look at the Free Version of Daminion Stand alone



This will end up an interesting workflow!!! :confused:
— an app for the catalogue
— an app to develop the RAWs
— an app for pixel editing
 



This will end up an interesting workflow!!! :confused:
— an app for the catalogue
— an app to develop the RAWs
— an app for pixel editing
If you use Photoshop and Lightroom, you end up with an app for each. It doesn't matter if each links to the other.

I use Digikam for cataloguing, UFRaw for RAW conversion and Gimp for editing. In use I only use Digikam - if I want to edit I click on the photo in Digicam and it is sent to either UFRaw or Gimp as appropriate. Entirely seamless, free, and excellent performance.
 
Hi all

Using Photoshop and Lightroom via Creative Cloud for almost a year now. Personally I find it is more complex and advanced than I personally need. Therefore Im looking at alternatives.

I'm halfway through a trial of DXO Optics Pro 11 Elite and I like it a lot. However, before I commit to paying £150 for a piece of software and want to know if there are any others for the Windows platform that people can recommend.

Google brings up many alternatives but I want real user experience!

Thanks

As background, my main user experience is (currently) with DXO Optics Pro 10 Elite and Lightroom. I use them in combination - but only for editing. I don't use the cataloguing functions of Lightroom as I prefer to use the plain Windows file system. I have explored several other editors to varying degrees, most recently Photoshop Elements, Silkypix, Helicon Filter and Paintshop Pro. Before using Lightroom (and more recently in combination with DXO) I used Photoshop CS2 and before that Photoshop Elements.

Given your needs, have you looked at Photoshop Elements 14?

Elements is a one-off cost of (currently) £66 (at Amazon UK).

Elements does cataloguing, although if you are considering just using DXO Optics Pro then that presumably isn't too important to you at this stage.

Should you decide to use raw, Elements handles that quite nicely with a built in version of Adobe Camera Raw. This is reduced in functionality compared to the version that comes with Photoshop but is very good at what it does do (IMO the core, basic stuff) and is very easy to use. You can actually use it with JPEG images too.

One major advantage Elements has over DXO Optics Pro is that you can do local adjustments with it. You may not want to use local adjustments just now, but at some point you may find it rather useful, and having it available gives you "room to grow" with your post processing.

Elements presents its functionality at three "levels":
  • Quick - which gives very easy access to basic functionality through point and click panels.
  • Guided - which is more task oriented, and gives you "hand-holding" help panels, guiding you through the task in hand
  • Expert - which gives you access to all the functions, and is more like using Photoshop, accessing a lot of the functions through the menus.
You can switch between these three approaches by simply clicking on one of the three tabs presenting them, so you can use whichever approach you are most comfortable with for a particular task (although of course what you can do is more limited with the Guided and, especially, the Quick approach).

One limitation of Elements compared to both DXO Optics Pro and Lightroom (and Silkypix for that matter) is that it does not have batch facilities, where you can make changes to one image and then apply the same changes to a lot of other images in one move.

There is a free trial of Elements 14 available here.
 
Thanks all. I have mainly used the windows catalogue system for folders.

I have recently (yes after 30 plus years of taking photographs) just began shooting in RAW only which as everyone knows allows for a greater depth of post processing.

Lots more to trial and think about.
 



A windows version will come out in September 2016
of the pixel editor I've been using with great pleasure
on my MACs since almost two years.

It is a UK made software called Affinity Photo… love it!

Interesting. May have to give this a go....does it add any slider presettings that LR/ACR/CNXD, etc add to the raw file before you've done anything? do they offer a raw histogram?
 


Affinity Photo has 4 "personas". One of them
works for RAWs only with the required tools.

I don't use Affinity Photo for that purpose but
only as pixel editor. Capture One Pro is my
chosen RAW converter.
 


Affinity Photo has 4 "personas". One of them
works for RAWs only with the required tools.

I don't use Affinity Photo for that purpose but
only as pixel editor. Capture One Pro is my
chosen RAW converter.

Ah ok. The only editor I know to date that displays a working RAW histogram is FastRawViewer which I've been using quite a bit recently. It illustrates perfectly how much your camera underexposes although the JPEG histogram on the back of the camera tells you otherwise. Following this 'discovery' myself I've been embarking on a few experiments to squeeze as much DR out of the D800 sensor as possible, with good results, i.e. less noise, accurate rendition to start with.
 
squeeze as much DR out of the D800 sensor as possible



This is, in fact, out of your control. The sensor
has properties and features that cannot be al-
tered in any way BUT confirming the exposure
with the screen histogram is, and you are right
in this, the right strategy.
 
If Lightroom and Photoshop are too complex, why not give On1 software a try. They are bringing out a raw editor very soon too. The full suite contains a browser and some really easy to use editing tools. There are loads of video tutorials on their site and you can give it a 30 day free trial too.

https://www.on1.com/apps/
 



This is, in fact, out of your control. The sensor
has properties and features that cannot be al-
tered in any way BUT confirming the exposure
with the screen histogram is, and you are right
in this, the right strategy.

Sorry, what is out of my control? through experimentation I now know the full RAW DR ability of the D800 sensor and can use it accordingly. Its actually quite a bit more than what your camera histogram tells you.
 
If you use Photoshop and Lightroom, you end up with an app for each. It doesn't matter if each links to the other.

I use Digikam for cataloguing, UFRaw for RAW conversion and Gimp for editing. In use I only use Digikam - if I want to edit I click on the photo in Digicam and it is sent to either UFRaw or Gimp as appropriate. Entirely seamless, free, and excellent performance.

Yeah the thing is, you don't often use photoshop unless you need to do layers. Lightroom is a full workflow tool, not just an editor. I find about 98% of my work is done in Lightroom.
You can still buy Lightroom 6 for just over £100, you don't have to go CC
 
Paintshop Pro is a comprehensive package and well priced for what you get. I quite like it.

And your RAW files are not converted to DNG
 
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