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Not sure if this thread should be here or in one of the pictures sections, so please move if so!

Following on from the 'your first camera' thread over in Talk Equipment, it reminded me that I managed to capture an "orb" with my first digital camera, a Kodak DX3600, back in 2001. It's my old bedroom, and it's a real mess because it was being emptied out before being decorated, so I thought I'd get some 'final memory' pictures... perhaps there were other forces at work! :eek:

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Forgetting the usual pictures that you see plastered around in books and on the net, has anyone else ever caught anything unusual on film?
 
I've caught orbs a few times, I just put it down to dust though :shrug:
 
I was deep in a very dense Welsh pine forest (just setting the scene), I took a couple of photos (with a point and shoot). It was only when I got back on the computer that I spotted the first shot had a ghostly fog across the middle of the frame, the next shot a few seconds later was totally clear. But seen as though ghosts don't exist the only way I could explain it was condensation on the lens that must have cleared in the few seconds between shots.
 
matthew_rk said:
I've caught orbs a few times, I just put it down to dust though :shrug:
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Well, normally I'd have thought that too, but the thing looks as if it's got detail, whereas I'd have thought a dust speck would just be a blob of light.

Hawker said:
I was deep in a very dense Welsh pine forest (just setting the scene), I took a couple of photos (with a point and shoot). It was only when I got back on the computer that I spotted the first shot had a ghostly fog across the middle of the frame, the next shot a few seconds later was totally clear. But seen as though ghosts don't exist the only way I could explain it was condensation on the lens that must have cleared in the few seconds between shots.
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Oooh show us the picture!! :)
 
Dan76 said:
Well, normally I'd have thought that too, but the thing looks as if it's got detail, whereas I'd have thought a dust speck would just be a blob of light.



Oooh show us the picture!! :)
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I'll see if I can find them, I can't get to the comp that the photos are on so it might be tomorrow if I can find them.

EDIT; found them, looking at the exif there is 19 seconds between shots, I still recon it's condensation on the lens, that then cleared.



 
Hawker said:
EDIT; found them, looking at the exif there is 19 seconds between shots, I still recon it's condensation on the lens, that then cleared.
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Hmm.. could be.. but then there is something rather ghostly about them!

When I've had condensation interference, it usually retreats from an equidistantly placed position to the edge of the lens, so it's like condensation 'vignetting', whereas that looks quite randomly distributed.
 
On the day in question it was raining so the humidity will have been high, and the first shot was taken when the camera came out of it's case, that's why I recon condensation. I'd been in the forest all morning on my own and I felt a bit spooked anyway. It must be because of being in very confined space with dense trees and your line on sight is only 10m or so, and by the point I took the photo's I just wanted to get out the wood, so seeing that on the photos topped it off. Like I said I don't belive in ghosts etc, but it was still slightly unsettling.
 
intersting thread, you'd think with everyone having cameras and phones nowadays that someone somewhere would have captured some definitive proof if there is such a thing as ghosts
 
pecrow said:
intersting thread, you'd think with everyone having cameras and phones nowadays that someone somewhere would have captured some definitive proof if there is such a thing as ghosts
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Hmm, maybe, unless these manifestations screw up the capture? There have certainly been a lot of investigations by experienced people using good gear, but there's never anything very definitive to show for it.

I'm more interested in the big cat sightings that reportedly take place, and I'm surprised that no-one seems to have got a clear, unequivocal, shot of a mountain lion, panther or whatever. I live in rural SW Scotland and spend a fair amount of time outdoors, usually with binoculars and a camera, but I've never seen a feline larger than an obese tabby. Pity!
 
99.99999999999999999999999999999999% of the time it's just dust!

Interesting 'foggy' pic and most probably something natural.

Oh and you know ghosts don't exist for fact do you?
 
I could show you lots of pictures of orbs. There are many theories about what they are but I'll leave you with this. My mum is psychic and will often visit a place and say, "take a picture, I've got loads of spirits around me." Every time someone does this there are orbs.

Now, I don't think anyone can say for sure they are ghosts, or even what ghosts are, but I can assure you they're not dust. I'd guess that they're some manifestation of energy that the more expanded mind of a psychic then projects a belief system onto.

The universe is a very weird and wobbly place and there are more things we don't understand than do.
 
My dad took this with a point and shoot and there's something odd above my head :thinking: lens flare maybe.

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Del.
 
That's gotta be lens flare, mate.
 
AndyWest said:
99.99999999999999999999999999999999% of the time it's just dust!

Interesting 'foggy' pic and most probably something natural.

Oh and you know ghosts don't exist for fact do you?
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Yep, quite sure they don't exist, but hey, that's only my opinion :D
 
Always makes me laugh in these types of threads as you get 3 types of people (goes for religious threads as well).

1) Believer - will always attribute something, no matter how unlikely to a paranormal events such as spirits etc and will not budge from their opinions.

2) Non-believers - will always attribute something, no matter how unlikely to a scientific theory and will not budge from their opinions.

3) Sensible people - those that say "well personally I believe/do not believe however, my opinions could be changed with reasonable proof.

Those saying ghosts don't exist are worse than those that are positive they do. Personally, I sit on the fence, willing to lean either way as things progress.
 
i am always debating with friends (who are true believers in the paranormal), that this picture that they took on one of there meets was fake!! judge for yourself

and tbh i did get the master copy of the image and prove it not to be a real face, but i will never convince them!

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....how did that happen.......it was sraight off camera ...no editing

ive wondered for a long time why this photo turned out like this
 
I'm a sit on the fence kinda guy with regards to ghosts but why has there never, ever been a single photo taken that clearly shows a ghost?

Every pic you ever see supposedly showing spirits are very unclear. Take the one above that may or may not have a face. What a load of nonsense, if there was a face you would see it clearly.

If someone posted a decent pic of something that was not explainable by some light or lens characteristic and the 'ghost' was clear to be seen then that may go a long way towards convincing the skeptics.

So far I have never seen such a pic. Has anybody else?
 
Harvey_nikon said:
Always makes me laugh in these types of threads as you get 3 types of people (goes for religious threads as well).

1) Believer - will always attribute something, no matter how unlikely to a paranormal events such as spirits etc and will not budge from their opinions.

2) Non-believers - will always attribute something, no matter how unlikely to a scientific theory and will not budge from their opinions.

3) Sensible people - those that say "well personally I believe/do not believe however, my opinions could be changed with reasonable proof.

Those saying ghosts don't exist are worse than those that are positive they do. Personally, I sit on the fence, willing to lean either way as things progress.
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I never said I wouldn't change my mind, as you said in point three, show me reasonable proof, and I'd be willing to change my mind. I'm a scientist, and I've not seen one shred of evidence that would make it into a peer reviewed journal saying ghosts exist, until that day I'm still in the 'no' camp.
 
The fact is that orbs happens. What they are is an entirely different debate, but they definitely happen. I'm going to my mums later so I'll get some shots taken before and after she said things were going on with the same camera at the same time.

As I said, I don't think they're necessarily 'ghosts', but there is definitely something energetic happening.
 
Hawker said:
I never said I wouldn't change my mind, as you said in point three, show me reasonable proof, and I'd be willing to change my mind. I'm a scientist, and I've not seen one shred of evidence that would make it into a peer reviewed journal saying ghosts exist, until that day I'm still in the 'no' camp.
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Have you read or heard of the research going on into OOBE's? There's some amazing stuff happening in that field. Buggered if I can remember where though.
 
melevo said:
i am always debating with friends (who are true believers in the paranormal), that this picture that they took on one of there meets was fake!! judge for yourself

and tbh i did get the master copy of the image and prove it not to be a real face, but i will never convince them!
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It's a dust spot, the kind of thing I see through the lenses in my glasses all the time.
 
Harvey_nikon said:
Always makes me laugh in these types of threads as you get 3 types of people (goes for religious threads as well).

3) Sensible people - those that say "well personally I believe/do not believe however, my opinions could be changed with reasonable proof.

Those saying ghosts don't exist are worse than those that are positive they do. Personally, I sit on the fence, willing to lean either way as things progress.
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Interesting observation, but I'm not sure type 3 really exists.

I used to consider myself a type 3 non-believer with respect to religion / ghosts / aliens / whatever, until I asked myself what kind of evidence it would take to change my mind. Bearing in mind how complex the human brain is, and how many subtle malfunctions it might be capable of, the bar would seem to be very high indeed.

Take aliens for example. Abduct me and take me to your spaceship, and when it's over it's probably more likely that I imagined or dreamed it all. Park on the White House lawn and hold a press conference, and then I'll believe.
 
OP reporting in!

Like has been mentioned - for most pictures that you see, there's usually a rational explanation. I despair when I see pics where long exposure has created an unusual illusion of some kind!

The ones that do make me wonder (orbs excepted) are the ones where you're thinking.. "Wow.. you'd need uberskills in Photoshop to fake that!"
 
I suppose I'm somewhere in the third category, with an inclination towards looking for rational rather than esoteric explanations, but I don't feel very strongly about it one way of the other. After all, supernatural and paranormal just describe things beyond our present understanding and experience. Using a mobile in the C17th would probably have led to an appointment with the stake and a bonfire.

FWIW, I've never had any sort of "spooky" or "odd" experience. I like visiting castles and old places, but they should preferably be lonely, ruined and uncontaminated by the theme park atmosphere you get at the popular tourist destinations; and I have never been on a "ghost tour" because I find the whole idea puerile. My wife does have some problems with this, because she finds a lot of these places "creepy". I think this probably has a lot to do with the sort of conditioning many people go through as kids, rather than psychic abilities. Quite a few people asked my daughter (grown up now) why she wasn't afraid of the dark when she was younger, and she replied that no-one had ever told her she was supposed to be.
 
I have an open mind when it comes to lots of things paranormal, I have had several spooky experiences, dunno for sure either way though so remain on the fence as it were.

I do not believe in so called orbs though - I know a lot of people do, but personally I think they're a load of tosh. They are so obviously explained away by the dust theory. :cuckoo:

Just my opinion. :D

Ste
 
Ste Manns said:
I have an open mind when it comes to lots of things paranormal, I have had several spooky experiences, dunno for sure either way though so remain on the fence as it were.

I do not believe in so called orbs though - I know a lot of people do, but personally I think they're a load of tosh. They are so obviously explained away by the dust theory. :cuckoo:

Just my opinion. :D

Ste
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But they're not ALL explained away that way. How is it I have pictures where my mum is saying, "There's someone right here." and pointing to a spot. When the picture is developed sure enough there is an orb there. When she says it's gone there is no orb. Same camera, same exposure. Orb in one, but not the other. I'm not saying they're ghosts, but there are more things in heaven and earth...
 
So you're saying, some are just the way the light plays with floating dust particles, but it can also be something paranormal that just happens to look exactly the same? :shrug: I'm sorry I just don't buy it!

I know some people believe in them though, these are just my own opinions! :thinking:
 
The23rdman said:
How is it I have pictures where my mum is saying, "There's someone right here." and pointing to a spot. When the picture is developed sure enough there is an orb there. When she says it's gone there is no orb. Same camera, same exposure. Orb in one, but not the other.
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Show us then :)
 


This one I took in the summer on Boa Island, Co. Fermanagh. I saw nothing at the time but afterwards noticed the anomaly. I've enlarged it in the top corner for a better look. Could be an insect perhaps..? The rods phenomenon did come to mind though.
In the past I've had an odd orb or two appear in my photographs even without the flash firing. I know that an explanation put forward for orbs is that of the flash reflecting of particles of dust...

A while back I was shown a photo first hand of a group of young adults all posing for the camera and right at the bottom about ankle height between the group is a face as plain as day. A very sinister looking face at that. Apparently one of the girl's in the photo wakes up in the morning sometimes with unexplained scratches and bruises...
 
Could be an insect perhaps..? The rods phenomenon did come to mind though.
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Proven to be one and the same thing. Looks more like a distant bird to me though.
 
Dudie said:
Looks more like a distant bird to me though.
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I don't get the bird theory at all..? The shutter speed was 1/250s. Surely if it was a bird it would be quite apparent to the eye...

:shrug:
 
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