Photography Ban on Glasgow Subway?

you are just making yourself look foolish now - mark's far from being a keyboard warrior and as hes said was well placed to know what the scrotes were up to.

and the IRA killed my girlfreind when I was 18 (that was a bomb as well) so I've spent quite some time looking into and reading up on what they do , as part of the attempt to understand why.

Sorry to hear about your girlfriend,I did the same thing,I was only 17 years old living on my owe in a bedsit,and for a long while I try to understand why ?

As for Mark,he made the comment,expect an answer back :)

I also rember reading an article,in a paper a few years later,about the bomber who set of the bombs I was involved in wanting a transfer back to an NI prison so he could see his son more often,who was now 17,the same age I was when he try to blow me up.
Then later he got released in the good Friday adgreedment.
 
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Sorry, but you're not getting one. Ive got no intention of revealing my past on an open forum.
 
Then don't make comments,about other people not understanding,without knowing their past :nono:

To be fair to mark his comment about you not knowing what you were talking about was related to your comment about photographing possible targets not being part of the IRAs SOP

thing is it was - The IRA was set up along broadly military lines , and they had actual 'intelligence' opperatives who's entire raison d'etre was reconaisance on the mainland and in ulster to scope out potential targets and put together information on them (of which photography of targets and their vulnerabilities was very much a part) from which ops officers would then chose a target list for bombing campaigns and assign to different active service units

I totally 'king despise what they did (for obvious reasons) but its a mistake to think they were a bunch of clueless yobs who just went out and did what they felt like doing without a sound plan

I'm guessing that mark was either millitary or police but I see no reason to doubt his word when he says he knows his stuff first hand.
 
To be fair to mark his comment about you not knowing what you were talking about was related to your comment about photographing possible targets not being part of the IRAs SOP

thing is it was - The IRA was set up along broadly military lines , and they had actual 'intelligence' opperatives who's entire raison d'etre was reconaisance on the mainland and in ulster to scope out potential targets and put together information on them (of which photography of targets and their vulnerabilities was very much a part) from which ops officers would then chose a target list for bombing campaigns and assign to different active service units

I totally 'king despise what they did (for obvious reasons) but its a mistake to think they were a bunch of clueless yobs who just went out and did what they felt like doing without a sound plan

I'm guessing that mark was either millitary or police but I see no reason to doubt his word when he says he knows his stuff first hand.

That was a very big mistake to think of them as clueless yobs,some of us learnt the hard way :(
And that's the same with the new lot,thinking that they going around with big DSLR,taking photos of their targets,no they are a lot more clever than that.
So most of theses bans are useless,just put in place to make us feel a bit safer,and to me and other, think that the photographer has become an scapegoat.
 
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That was a very big mistake to think of them as clueless yobs,some of us learnt the hard way :(

we certainly did - not only did I lose a girlfreind to them , I also lost a good mate blown up while over the water with RGJ, and they almost got me in warrington as well (we were about 100yds away when that went off)

say what you will about them, and I certainly have, but they did plan properly and that did include photographing targets. Which was where we came in...

Its not that likely that those planning AQ operations would be going round with a DSLR - but only because they know that that attracts the attention of the officials , chances are good that they'll be covertly using camera phones.

However we are back to what i said originally , its not just about terrorism , its also about crime, public complaints , and the potential for accidents - and at the end of the day its their land, their rules .
 
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