Photographing banknotes

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Does anyone have any information on the legalities of photographing banknotes. Is it illegal and why :shrug:
 
You after a new lens Maureen? :D

I don’t think there are any issues photograhing bank notes. It’s only when you print them off and try and buy that new handbag that problems may occure.
 
Baz777 said:
It’s only when you print them off and try and buy that new handbag that problems may occure.
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^^:lol:

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I have no personal knowledge of the legaliity... but I did find this on another forum:
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We were once asked to large-format print a £50 banknote. Thinking this was illegal, and needing to justify a refusal to our customer, I specifically phoned the Bank of England. No Problem, they said. So we went ahead and high-resolution scanned the banknote and printed it. And so far none of us has been arrested!
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On a slightly related note, I was surprised to find that my photocopier (Epson CX11NF) will NOT photocopy banknotes. It somehow recognises them and stubbornly refuses to print them*.

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*I should point out that I only wanted photocopied fivers for a magic trick... nothing naughty!

 
I'm not planning to photocopy or produce fraudulent banknotes. I've photographed a five pound note at an angle and changed the colour spectrum. Perhaps I need to contact the Bank of Englend and ask them to clarify reproduction. You couldn't use my image for counterfeiting purposes. Or perhaps I just scrap my image though I do like it.
 
As far as I am aware, provided you do not reproduce ALL of the note you are OK. For instance, a pile of cash where the notes are on top of each other.

For your magic trick - if you did it and used them for the intended purpose I can't see you getting a knock on the door. How do they know where you are performing?

If you were publishing them somewhere, then you might have questions asked...as would the publisher.

You could always get members of your audience to donate real ones!
 
It is ilegal to take thotos of bank notes without writen permision from the bank that produses them IE bank of england, bank of scotland etc
 
I did check this out a while back when I took a Macro of the Queens face off a ten pound note, as far as I found out - your okay to photograph them so long as it doesn't show the whole note and it's taken at an angle.

Just found this quote out again from the BOE:

"Guidelines for Reproducing Bank of England Notes in Advertisements and Illustrations"
Advertisers, publishers, and others wishing to reproduce Bank of England notes should, before taking steps to reproduce such notes, get in touch with the Issue Office of the Bank...

The Bank does not allow reproductions of its notes on articles for sale (e.g. mugs, ashtrays, tea-towels, etc.)

For ADVERTISEMENTS, etc. incorporating reproductions of notes, the Bank's permission is necessary and designs are normally expected to meet the following criteria:-

Reproductions of notes, whether in black and white or colour, must not be the same size as actual notes. If they are smaller, they can be up to half as long and half as wide. If they are to be larger, they must be at least twice as long and twice as wide. Reproductions of parts of notes must be in the same proportions. As an additional protection against misuse, notes should be shown on the slant and not flat to camera. they should also form part of a larger pictorial design. Designs incorporating reproductions of notes for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES (eg in educational books and training manuals), which must also be approved by the bank, should satisfy the same size criteria as those for advertisements, but may be shown flat to camera provided that they have the word "specimen" in solid black capitals across them.

These criteria do not apply to reproductions of notes for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ON FILM OR TELEVISION; such reproductions may be made without specific application being made to the Bank. If it is proposed to include reproductions in a FILM OR TELEVISION ADVERTISEMENT, the Bank must be consulted, as its permission is required.
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Wasn't there an artist done and his exhibition closed a couple of years ago because he had various reproductions of bank notes?
 
I called the BOE to clarify this issue and they said they'd ring me straight back 2 hours ago :bang:
 
he is on holiday? though my wallet seemed a bit lighter than normal, wish i could keep some of my money for a holiday :(
 
Well the Bank of England or The Queen don't drive my bus, I do!!!
 
Well, this thread has just pee'd on my parade! I was planning a 'money' shoot for tonite!

All these BOE references refer to advertising, and promotional, and educational use etc. What about personal use and personal web sharing? ie: posting pics on Flickr?

And what is money anyways? It's an iou, just a fancy one. :)
 
surly its a "I PAY YOU" not a IOU :lo:
 
Really pleased you started this thread Maureen, I and a friend who will remain anonymous, did some photos when, I made my lightbox last week, featuring Thai Bahts and Qatar Rials, that we had left from a recent visit to Thailand and Qatar, OOOOOPS who the heck would I ask. I never gave it a thought as they were in fan,circle, square shapes, all on an angle so there's no chance they could ever be used as currency, as they were just the fronts no backs, glad I deleted them, as I dont fancy a free holiday in The Bangkok Hilton. :exit:
 
I just tried to scan in a £20 note in photoshop this is what I had
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I had heard that photoshop had some kind of recognition software built in this was using cs3 and the program froze solid I had to Ctrl Alt Del to get out of the program and shut it down :)
 
Would this also apply to coinage and if not, why not?
 
Pirate Neilsouth said:
If i want to photograph a fiver in my hand i'll do so , its my money!
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Exactly!

Double_Agent said:
Wrong!!! Its never your money. It is always the Bank of Englands or the Queen's Money.
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Hehe, the US has it so much better. There's something about each citizen being part owner in the money because the citizens help create the design or something like that.

Steffyboy said:
I just tried to scan in a £20 note in photoshop this is what I had
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I had heard that photoshop had some kind of recognition software built in this was using cs3 and the program froze solid I had to Ctrl Alt Del to get out of the program and shut it down :)
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Open it up in bridge and then switch to photoshop. I don't think bridge has the protection thingy.
 
Banknotes are an IOU/a cheque...
"I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of five pounds"
- Signed by the Chief Cashier at the time.

That's all. You've got a cheque that you can exchange for goods, based on the trust that the person who now has the paper and not the goods can go to the Chief Cashier and get his five pounds. Of course, the gold doesn't exist any more, the Chief Cashier won't give him anything and it's all based on the trust that five pounds is five pounds.

And it's not your cheque to play with. You just have it in your wallet.
 
Blapto said:
Banknotes are an IOU/a cheque...
"I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of five pounds"
- Signed by the Chief Cashier at the time.

That's all. You've got a cheque that you can exchange for goods, based on the trust that the person who now has the paper and not the goods can go to the Chief Cashier and get his five pounds. Of course, the gold doesn't exist any more, the Chief Cashier won't give him anything and it's all based on the trust that five pounds is five pounds.

And it's not your cheque to play with. You just have it in your wallet.
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That raises an interesting legal question, if the Cashier knows the gold isn't there and won't exchange the note he'd be commiting an offence of fraud (obtaining money by deception? Wayne
 
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