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Photo plea on repatriations.
I have seen a few posts on here about going to Wootton Bassett to photograph the street scenes of the repatriation of “OUR HEROES”.
I am a member of the Royal British Legion and in the winter magazine I found the following letter and thought I would share it with you.
It was written by the Army’s Chief Photographer from media headquarters at Salisbury, Wiltshire, who is now serving in Afghanistan, coincidentally called Rob, but not the Rob we know on here.
This is what he had to say:
With the cooperation and understanding of the grieving families, we are given the responsibility to cover the ramp ceremony at RAF Lyneham and subsequent events at Wootton Bassett.
I understand that the media is not entirely welcome by all. In certain circumstances, however, our presence is necessary.
He goes on to say that at one particular event, he and a couple of his colleagues had to cover the repatriation of two soldiers who had died in Afghanistan. After the cortege had passed, he was approached by a Legion member who asked if he was from “Army News”. He said “yes” and then the Legion member said he thought that what he was doing was disgraceful and you should be ashamed of yourself!.
He explained it was his job and he treats the ceremonies and the families with the utmost respect.
Now, I am sure he is a very capable and professional cameraman and like he said, it is his job, but I wonder how many of us would photograph an event like this for our own needs and not stand in line to show the deserved respect of the fallen.

For me, I wear my Veterans badge with pride and we should never forget what our boys are doing for us, whether you agree with war or not, they, like the photographer are doing their job.
Being in the West the local news covers the Lyneham/Wootton Bassett ceremonies which are very sad and emotional, for this reason I would put away my camera and leave it to those who's job it is to be there.
Sorry for going on too long but with remembrance Sunday nearly here I thought this letter was quite appropriate and would appreciate your views on this matter.
 
I don't think I'd shoot it for my own reasons, but if it was my job I wouldn't think twice. Repatriations nheed to be covered the same as any other event, as tragic as a Repat or not. The legion member should have known that, unless he was a member like we have round here...never worn uniform, but paid for membership and don't welcome servicemen and women as they're supposed to. I'm sure the RBL bod would have been saying different if they wanted covereage of their latest fundraiser.
 
I wonder how the legion member found out about the ceremonies in the first place, might he have seen it on the news?
 
Personally I wouldn't even contemplate taking photographs of a repatriation.

It may happen in the middle of an airstrip, but it is a private moment for loved ones that doesn't warrant the intrusion of a camera :shake:
 
Everything that happens in the world should be photographed for posterity. I will be covering rememberance parades on Sunday no doubt.
 
That legion member sounds like a complete Walt to me.
 
I'd be very surprised if the Army photographers who take pics of repatriations don't do so with a very heavy heart.
However the pics, wherever they appear, honour their fallen comrades and our fine patrotic countrymen.
I see no disrespect in that.
 
I don't agree with every tom **** (richard!) and harry taking photographs at the airstrip; it's a private moment, but once the convoy hits the highstreet it becomes slightly more public. I've worked events with the Army news team before, they're like ninjas. Incredibly professional, and you don't even notice them a lot of the time. They have to cover repats, it's part of the war, and part of the job that the ANTs have to do.
 
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Rob L***, my Boss, is right - we don't have a choice in photographing Re-Pats - it's a Duty. The Legion member in question should be ashamed of himself for putting someone in uniform on the spot for merely doing his or her job!

The photographs go together along with the ramp ceremony and Vigil service photos here in theatre into an album for the family should they wish... All of them do.

BTW - Rob's off the hook with regard coming out here.
 
Met a couple of your guys at a recruiting event/concert in Poole back in February Rob, top guys, didn't even notice them.
 
Rob L***, my Boss,

yep that's the man.........

I personally think you do a great job and I would want some form of memorabilia (photos and/or video) if it was my lad coming home.
My post really went out to .....well togs who would just turn up and shoot away. These ceremonies are very moving indeed and I defy anyone to attend one and not choke back the tears.
I think arclight just about sums this post up.........so thank you all for your comments.
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I think the important thing is that it is done by professional togs who are used to being discrete. When my husband, a policeman, died, the police photographer presented me with an album of photos showing the guard of honour at the funeral etc. I never saw him take the photos and I treasured them.
 
I would not take any photos of these repatriations personally, although I do agree they should be photographed for posterity - which is what the 'official' photographer is doing. I think the external media photographers and TV cameramen should be banned from the proceedings. They should purchase the official photos/footage, with proceeds going to services charities.
Oh, and the jobsworth who complained to the photographer deserves a kick in the fork IMO.
 
Thank you Sue for sharing your thoughts on this, I’m sure you treasure every photograph, I know I would.





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I had to attend the ramp ceremony of a member of the Company I was attached to on my last tour.
I was very glad not to have been the one photographing it.
 
Everything that happens in the world should be photographed for posterity. I will be covering rememberance parades on Sunday no doubt.

I agree fully with this statement.

Somewhat different to welcoming home the body of a loved one.

Different, but none the less important. These photographs keep the military sacrifice fresh in peoples minds. Living in the UK it's all to easy to forget that we are technically fighting a war in a distant part of the World. I think to hide the fact soldiers are dying from people would in itself be a disservice to the military in my opinion. I'm not in the military but have friends who are and I'm sure they would agree.

The photographer is doing his/her job. They're wearing the uniform. They're taking photographs of fallen soldiers, their brothers/sisters. I seriously doubt that they would intentionally do something that they felt would be an insult.
 
I agree fully with this statement.



Different, but none the less important. These photographs keep the military sacrifice fresh in peoples minds. Living in the UK it's all to easy to forget that we are technically fighting a war in a distant part of the World. I think to hide the fact soldiers are dying from people would in itself be a disservice to the military in my opinion. I'm not in the military but have friends who are and I'm sure they would agree.

The photographer is doing his/her job. They're wearing the uniform. They're taking photographs of fallen soldiers, their brothers/sisters. I seriously doubt that they would intentionally do something that they felt would be an insult.


I think simmotino was refering to just anyone going along and taking snaps, you or I for instance. Rightly so. The official photographer should indeed have been there, being as discreet as possible, as heavy hearted as everyone else and most definately doing his job.

On the otherhand, I was at the Cenotaph in London for Rememberance Sunday last year and just took pictures of the service men and women in the march past after all the official stuff. It was much more moving than perhaps I expected, not so much because of all the service personnel [current and past] but because I spent some time just people watching the crowd, young and old, teenagers with more tatoos and piercings than I have, a huge mix of people from all walks of life, and all were paying absolute attention to the words and prayers. It was quite a sight and atmosphere and something that can never be conveyed through the TV cameras. I suspect the same of repatriation ceremonies, no film or still footage can ever fully convey the emotion, but unlike Rememberance services this Sunday, its definately a place where only limited and official coverage should be.
 
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