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Petrol prices,Has the price of petrol limited trips out for taking photographs.At one time i would not think of doing a 150 mile round trip to take photos but with unleaded being over £6 a gallon it has limited such events and tend to stay local or use the train with cheap day returns.
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yes , it is killing me doing 60 miles a day to work ! , however , ASDA have dropped their price of diesel to 135.7p / litre , 4p / litre off , i wonder if a price war is looming ........
 
Sure our leaders could drop some of the tax on petrol,the motorist is the easy way to get cash from a allready over taxed country
 
I cycle to work every day
I just can`nt justify using the car now for a trip to the coast or any where far on a wim as it`d cost so much and if your buying food,gifts etc .
One time not so long ago would drive to the coast just for some nice fish and chips and a drive out not any more and the thing every one`s taking it lying down couple of years ago all the petrol protests and that was when it got to £1.25 a litre
 
lostinfrance said:
Sure our leaders could drop some of the tax on petrol,the motorist is the easy way to get cash from a allready over taxed country
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Can't afford to, too many bullets and bombs to pay for.
 
About 3 weeks ago, I did a 280 mile round trip just to have a custom made stainless exhaust fitted to my car, so no the price of fuel has made no difference to me. I enjoy driving so see using my car as a pass time of sorts.
 
paulyoung666 said:
yes , it is killing me doing 60 miles a day to work ! , however , ASDA have dropped their price of diesel to 135.7p / litre , 4p / litre off , i wonder if a price war is looming ........
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Shell devil fuel is now £139.9 around here (I don't bother with that petrol stuff)... which is a 3p a litre drop.... Long may it continue........


In answer to the original question, I do find myself driving more conservatively, and trying to beat the onboard computer now..... latest for this tank is 69.2 mpg) - real world is about 65mpg as it is a tad optimistic! Has it stopped me? No, but I'll probably plan it in with something else....... rather than chasing sunsets......
 
Yeah, it has affected me too.

My previous car did 19mpg on a good day and only drunk the expensive V-power stuff.

My current car is a 'deeeesil' and gets a strong 50mpg - but I am still driving it tenderly and cutting back on the trips that are not essential.

I was going to travel to Hunstanton a few weeks ago, then when i worked out exactly how many miles it would be and what that would cost me, it wasnt worth it. What a poor show.

Rich
 
Am contemplating a round trip to muskat with a few jerry cans, at 12p a litre it may well be economical? Lol
 
What really bugs be is that retailers raise the price at the drop of a hat. The last excuse to hike the price was the Libya unrest. Crude oil fell by 9% last week but will we see this reflected at the pumps? I think not.

Moan over

Ian
 
Kemble3 said:
What really bugs be is that retailers raise the price at the drop of a hat. The last excuse to hike the price was the Libya unrest. Crude oil fell by 9% last week but will we see this reflected at the pumps? I think not.

Moan over

Ian
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As other have said earlier in the thread the price has dropped. First time I have seen it go down in a long time too.
 
Not really affected me that much, if I want to go somewhere I do. Thankfully my car (a golf) is very economical on long trips. over easter I did 450 miles travelllling around whilst away on less the 3/4 of a tank and it only took £50 to fill up, anyone that has ever travelled with me will tell you I don't exactly drive slowly.
 
Lynton said:
ERm other than Neth's that graph shows we pay more.....
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I've alway had it drumed into me that we pay the highest rate of tax and the highest price at the pump, so I found it rather intresting to find out that we didn't even France pays a higher rate of tax, on their fuel.

To get back on topic I now cycle to and from work and the short trips to the local supermarket are now walked or cycled because of the prices at the pump, in the past you would have seen me jump into the car just to get to the end of my street.
 
Hasn't bothered me in the slightest!

If your lifestyle is so sensitive to a slight increase in expenditure in petrol per month, then you've probably got something else considerably more unnecessary you can cut out (a pint of beer a week maybe... or that mobile phone subscription... or another £1000 lens for your camera... I have to laugh when I see someone QQ about price of petrol on their brand-new latest-model iphone...)

Incidentally, a friend found how much he paid for petrol in 1984. I ran it through a price-adjustment website, and we found it is now only 30% more expensive in real terms. Woopdie doo. (during which time the roads have changed enourmously of course, all paid for by taxes...)


Actually, I'm quite enjoying the price rise. Will make the second-hand prices on the XK I've always fancied drop a bit more...
 
flossie said:
Hasn't bothered me in the slightest!

If your lifestyle is so sensitive to a slight increase in expenditure in petrol per month,
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I'm afraid I don't class a 15% increase in 4 months a slight rise, and it may not have jumped a huge amount since after the fuel crises of the late 70's when it doubled in price in 18 months, and sort of comparison depends on the exact date you pick as a few months over that period can make a very big difference. For example

1978 76 pence a GALLON
1979 98 pence
1980 £1.28
1981 £1.60
1982 £1.64
1984 £1.87
2011 £5.96

Your 30% over time is blown out the widow if you go back just another 6 years.


Also comparing back to the past is irrelevant, time and lifestyle have changed. I know of a time when everyone in my village walked to work, as there where 4 cotton mills in the village and a coal mine 4 miles away, there are NON on those now and 90% of workers HAVE to travel a distance to work.

Yes it's effecting me, and it's effecting everything we buy, working for a company that moves it's goods by our own fleet of vehicles I know that the price of fuel has to be passed on to the customer at some point.

I too did notice last night the the local garage has dropped it's price, so I have just looked on the petrol prices website and for the first time in years Asda now fills all the top 15 lowest prices in my search area, so a price war is about to happen :clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
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whiteflyer said:
I'm afraid I don't class a 15% increase in 4 months a slight rise, and it may not have jumped a huge amount since after the fuel crises of the late 70's when it doubled in price in 18 months. This sort of comparison depend on the exact date you pick as a few months over that period can make a very big difference.

Also comparing back to the past is irrelevant, time and lifestyle have changed. I know of a time when everyone in my village walked to work, as there where 4 cotton mills in the village and a coal mine 4 miles away, there are NON on those now and 90% of workers HAVE to travel a distance to work.

Yes it's effecting me, and it's effecting everything we buy, working for a company that moves it's goods by our own fleet of vehicles I know that the price of fuel has to be passed on to the customer at some point.

I too did notice last night the the local garage has dropped it's price, so I have just looked on the petrol prices website and for the first time in years Asda now fills all the top 15 lowest prices in my search area, so a price war is about to happen :clap::clap::clap::clap:
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Lets just do some maths, rather than looking at a % rise and considering it the petrol amargeddon...


  • Average driver does 1000 miles / month (12k/year).
  • At average of 30 mpg (many cars do much better, especially diesels).
  • That's 150 litres per month.
  • a 40% rise in petrol price (£1.00 to £1.40/litre) over the past few years makes a whopping.... £60 per month... is that significant? no.
 
I probably do 5000 miles a year so it isn't significant for me either. Car does about 20 mpg and it often still works out cheaper to take the car than the train or a bus to most places.

People are more dependent on the car than ever before and choose to live miles away from where they work. But jobs aren't secure enough to risk moving closer so its a catch 22.
 
Sorry Flossie, I'm not buying your calculations either!!!!

I got my first payrise in March for 3 years, it works out to around £20 per month.

When I moved into my flat in Oct 2009 fuel was around the 105p per litre mark.

On average I use 40 litres per week (X reg 1.8 Ford Focus), in October 2009 that would have cost me around £168 per month, now it's costing me £212 per month, that's a 20% increase.

£44 per month may not sound like too much but my salary hasn't increase by that much in the same period.

I have no cheaper alternative to getting to/from work, as it's locating is 3-4 miles from a trainstation and the train fayre alone would cost me £7-£8 per day.

Although lowering the tax on fuel would help on face value, the reality is that the revenue fuel duty raises is needed to help dig us out of the hole that Blair/Brown put us in (this isn't a "party" dig, I just hold those two, mainly the latter responsible for spending money we didn't have!) and Cameron/Clegg would have to raise the funds somehow (probably income tax and/or another VAT hike).

At this point in time I believe the only option availble is to somehow force OPEC and the major oil companies to further lower their costs.
 
If my wages had gone up £60 a month over the last few years I'd be a much happier man.

It's all relative £60 a month may not be a lot to you Flossie, but to those on low income it's a f***ing fortune.
 
whiteflyer said:
If my wages had gone up £60 a month over the last few years I'd be a much happier man.

It's all relative £60 a month may not be a lot to you Flossie, but to those on low income it's a f***ing fortune.
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so £60 a month is a fortune is it....says the man with a £3500 camera :thinking: :gag: careful, you maybe throwing stones in a glass house :naughty:

Anyway, its clearly not a fortune to people on low incomes - there's over 10 million Sky subscribers in the UK, and plenty of them are on low incomes and don't scream about being unable to afford it...


If you want to talk about % increases in essential items, seen what's happen to the price of Rice and other foods lately...?
 
flossie said:
so £60 a month is a fortune is it....says the man with a £3500 camera :thinking: :gag: careful, you maybe throwing stones in a glass house :naughty:

Anyway, its clearly not a fortune to people on low incomes - there's over 10 million Sky subscribers in the UK, and plenty of them are on low incomes and don't scream about being unable to afford it...


If you want to talk about % increases in essential items, seen what's happen to the price of Rice and other foods lately...?
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For a lot of people, petrol/diesel is an essential item but it's all relative ;)

If fuel price rises to a point where you can't afford to get to work you're in deep trouble and I fear that's what's on the cards for a lot of people.
 
dentedshed said:
I found a good solution. I dorove to Scotland today in my silver Vectra and did a bunk from Sainsburys after filling up.
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OUCH!
but I did also :lol:

A friend of mine in the State recently complained that
the price of gas (petrol) was $3.75 / Gallon to be fair
they gallons are slightly smaller than ours ;)
 
I've just found out my 300TDi Defender will run on a mix of 30% diesel 70% cooking oil in the summer months, legal too as long as you keep a log and don't use more than 2500l in a year

97p a litre for cooking oil
 
wack61 said:
I've just found out my 300TDi Defender will run on a mix of 30% diesel 70% cooking oil in the summer months, legal too as long as you keep a log and don't use more than 2500l in a year

97p a litre for cooking oil
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Now who would have thought that we would be "discussing" that possibility?
How times Change................

Just see this can't you? into sainsbury's (et al)
with a trolley and clearing off the cooking oil shelves :D


Thats a hell of a lot of plastic bottles to recycle too:D
 
Apparently you have to look for the 900 calorie a litre bottles because it's better as that's rapeseed oil, I can see it now, **** me that fat ******* must eat a lot of chips :lol:
 
wack61 said:
Apparently you have to look for the 900 calorie a litre bottles because it's better as that's rapeseed oil, I can see it now, **** me that fat ******* must eat a lot of chips :lol:
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PMSL and your vehicle will smell like a chip shop lol
Has no one noticed the smell when a vahicle goes past the running on cooking oil, quite a few do it round here
Dunno if it's true but was once told that you can use oil that has been cooked
in as long as you filter it first so perhaps that's why,
find a friendly local chippy to donate it lol
 
wack61 said:
Apparently you have to look for the 900 calorie a litre bottles because it's better as that's rapeseed oil, I can see it now, **** me that fat ******* must eat a lot of chips :lol:
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:lol::lol::lol:
 
The cost of diesel around here at the moment is about 143p a litre. Christmas 2009 it was about 100p a litre. Which ever way you look at it, thats more than a 40% increase in 18 months or so! Fine, for those rich enough not to care, but for the rest of us its biting, and biting hard. Not just in the cost of getting to work, but also in the way it effects absolutely everything else we have to buy, like food for example.

What really bugs me about fuel taxation though is the way in which it gets applied. First the duty is added on, and only then is the VAT added. In other words, we're paying tax on the tax thats already there. How can that possibly be right? Outragous :cuckoo:

Also, thanks to the VAT content, everytime the price of fuel goes up, the government automaticlly takes more money from us. They could easily afford to drop a few pence per litre off the tax without it hurting the overall take they had budgeted for this year. But will they even consider it? Not a blooming chance :shake:
 
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