Permission to come aboard Captain?

Well I guess it made a nice diversion for the lads,
being able to bat for the home team :thumbs:
 
If she gave an order to "Stand to Attention" who would dare disobey?
 
Well, assuming that the allegations are true, at her age and seniority she could retire now and tell them where to go...

But, again if the allegations are true, she will have seriously damaged the prospects of other women who want to get on in the RN, and deserves to be made an example of
 
Gives a whole new meaning to coming alongside.
 
If it were a male commander there would probably be no fuss at all.
 
obviously some people like the sh***ing someone high up, because she's not hot totty!
 
Or there's some small penis owning tit who has made an allegation out of spite at a woman getting the top job :( personally I hope it's not true as to be honest it would be moronic of her to do something that would ruin her career in the RN and we don't want morons in control of our warships
 
What's that old saying *Heel hath no fury like a woman scorned"

Bet if it is true someone found out and tried it on, and took revenge when she refused :banghead:
If it's not true, they tried it on and took revenge when she refused :banghead:
Sadly a no win situation for her

Silly girl if she did :(
 
Gremlin said:
What's that old saying *Heel hath no fury like a woman scorned"

Bet if it is true someone found out and tried it on, and took revenge when she refused :banghead:
If it's not true, they tried it on and took revenge when she refused :banghead:
Sadly a no win situation for her

Silly girl if she did :(
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You're implying that it was a man who blew the whistle on her. Royal Navy ships are crewed by both sexes these days.
 
The has only made headline news because of her rank. The only reason it's come to notice is that she's either p***** someone off or someone's not getting any !

It's been going on for years below decks and in compartments since women first went to sea officially in the Royal Navy . Even in Nelson's time it was not unusual to find women onboard. The saying "show a leg" was attributed to proving that a women was not in a hammock by literally showing your leg.
 
If it were a male commander there would probably be no fuss at all.
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Quite a few male officers have been subject to Courts Marshall for the same thing, so thats not correct.

Well, assuming that the allegations are true, at her age and seniority she could retire now and tell them where to go...
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Possibly not. Depends on her commission. But then again, is it really worth dragging it through what is in effect a criminal court?
Letting her resign her commission would be far cheaper which would be the result of a hearing anyway.

She's not the first female RN officer to get caught, she wont be the last, so I doubt it will have much effect either way.
 
Garry Edwards said:
Well, assuming that the allegations are true, at her age and seniority she could retire now and tell them where to go...

But, again if the allegations are true, she will have seriously damaged the prospects of other women who want to get on in the RN, and deserves to be made an example of
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Why? I don't get it, why can't she have sex with another crew member? Seems an archaic ruling to me.
 
norters said:
If it were a male commander there would probably be no fuss at all.
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On the contrary there would have been an outcry. We'd have heard all about the evil of people in authority taking advantage and/or coercing their subordinates into having sex with them. Seems that because the person in authority, in this case, is female there are different rules being applied here. Hopefully the Admiralty will apply the "equality" for equal treatment for women to her when judging this case.
 
chadders said:
On the contrary there would have been an outcry. We'd have heard all about the evil of people in authority taking advantage and/or coercing their subordinates into having sex with them. Seems that because the person in authority, in this case, is female there are different rules being applied here. Hopefully the Admiralty will apply the "equality" for equal treatment for women to her when judging this case.
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What rules are those then Jim? She has been removed from her post whilst they conduct an investigation. Not sure what else you want, flogged at the yardarm or walking the plank maybe?
 
Not at all Steve. Furthermore, I'm not sure how you managed to infer that insinuation from my words.

The statement that "if it were a male commander there would probably be no fuss at all", which I was replying to, is obvious nonsense. There would, quite rightly, be a fuss and accusations about male superiors using their position of authority to "have their way" with subordinates. The fact that in this case the commander is female should make no difference.

All I'm saying is that if or when the allegations are deemed to be true, that she is treated exactly the same as a male in her position, no more no less. I'm sure the Royal Navy will do so.
 
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The has only made headline news because of her rank. The only reason it's come to notice is that she's either p***** someone off or someone's not getting any !

It's been going on for years below decks and in compartments since women first went to sea officially in the Royal Navy . Even in Nelson's time it was not unusual to find women onboard. The saying "show a leg" was attributed to proving that a women was not in a hammock by literally showing your leg.
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Really? Only since then? I somehow think not.
 
MWHCVT said:
Or there's some small penis owning tit who has made an allegation out of spite at a woman getting the top job :( personally I hope it's not true as to be honest it would be moronic of her to do something that would ruin her career in the RN and we don't want morons in control of our warships
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Having an affair with a member of her crew is stupid, but it doesn't make her a moron in the insulting way that you're implying.
 
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Having an affair with a member of her crew is stupid, but it doesn't make her a moron in the insulting way that you're implying.
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Well given the definition of "stupid" is "lacking intelligence or common sense" and the definition of "moron" is "a stupid person" I really don't see why your splitting hairs over this, the two words are synonyms
 
MWHCVT said:
Well given the definition of "stupid" is "lacking intelligence or common sense" and the definition of "moron" is "a stupid person" I really don't see why your splitting hairs over this, the two words are synonyms
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Never made an iffy decision in your own life? Perhaps whilst....oh I don't know.....driving?
 
MWHCVT said:
Well given the definition of "stupid" is "lacking intelligence or common sense" and the definition of "moron" is "a stupid person" I really don't see why your splitting hairs over this, the two words are synonyms
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That's makes it ok then!
I know what the definition of stupid/moronic/moron is. I'm not splitting hairs, merely commenting on the fact that your choice of words whilst technically correct, is, in my opinion, insulting.
 
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That's makes it ok then!
I know what the definition of stupid/moronic/moron is. I'm not splitting hairs, merely commenting on the fact that your choice of words whilst technically correct, is, in my opinion, insulting.
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Your offended by my comment when the bulk of what I said was in support of the woman at the heart of this situation only say that if she were to be guilty of what she has been accused of then it would be moronic of her to break such a rule when she has doubtless worked damn hard to get where she is...

I fail to see what your getting offended by, but you know what if you want to save this going further as I'm not really in the mood to argue semantics, please it your "really, truthfully" offended by my comment click report and let the forum staff team decide..
 
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Never made an iffy decision in your own life? Perhaps whilst....oh I don't know.....driving?
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Don't be stupid, I didn't choose to hit that TR6, I didn't jump behind the wheel and think I know what I'll have an RTC today just for the sheer hell of it...

As to if I've ever made an iffy decision, who hasn't...show me someone who says they haven't and I'll show you a liar
 
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Your offended by my comment when the bulk of what I said was in support of the woman at the heart of this situation only say that if she were to be guilty of what she has been accused of then it would be moronic of her to break such a rule when she has doubtless worked damn hard to get where she is...

I fail to see what your getting offended by, but you know what if you want to save this going further as I'm not really in the mood to argue semantics, please it your "really, truthfully" offended by my comment click report and let the forum staff team decide..
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I didn't say I was offended. I'm not.
 
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Really? Only since then? I somehow think not.
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Well I'm sure there has been many a WREN given a good seeing too onboard before then. However, it's a lot easier to go ashore and less risk.

but my point was it's acutely quite common place and has been since they officially started going to sea. Plenty of places onboard to hide and your messmates cover for you and keep watch. Being at sea for months at a time without putting into port courses quite a few stresses and it's only human nature. Normally what's goes on below deck, stays below decks!
 
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Well I'm sure there has been many a WREN given a good seeing too onboard before then. However, it's a lot easier to go ashore and less risk.

but my point was it's acutely quite common place and has been since they officially started going to sea. Plenty of places onboard to hide and your messmates cover for you and keep watch. Being at sea for months at a time without putting into port courses quite a few stresses and it's only human nature. Normally what's goes on below deck, stays below decks!
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That makes it sound as if women were sent to sea purely to relieve the tensions of the male crew members. How ever did the matelots manage before then, during long weeks at sea?
 
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Well I'm sure there has been many a WREN given a good seeing too onboard before then. However, it's a lot easier to go ashore and less risk.

but my point was it's acutely quite common place and has been since they officially started going to sea. Plenty of places onboard to hide and your messmates cover for you and keep watch. Being at sea for months at a time without putting into port courses quite a few stresses and it's only human nature. Normally what's goes on below deck, stays below decks!
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I was actually referring to times long before women were on board at all.
 
chadders said:
That makes it sound as if women were sent to sea purely to relieve the tensions of the male crew members. How ever did the matelots manage before then, during long weeks at sea?
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Madame Pouce et sa quatre filles?
 
Nod said:
Madame Pouce et sa quatre filles?
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Interesting that you use the French language. "Matelot" is a slang term derived from the French "matenot" which in turn is derived from the Middle Dutch "mattenoot" which translates as "bed companion". Apt, isn't it?

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Probably the second in command stirring poo poo.
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Well we we don't know that do we? Even if it was maybe he was doing his duty. After all, we're talking about a Royal Navy warship, not "The Good Ship Venus".
 
Probably the first bawdy song I ever learned.:naughty:
 
I've always maintained the RAF got it right.

The army have the officers way behind the front line and send the men off to battle
The navy send both officers and men into battle, with the officer expected to go down with his ship
The Raf send the officers to war - leave the airmen safe on base :)
 
Byker28i said:
Liked, just for reminding me of that song :D
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Ah yes, I'd almost forgotten that :D

chadders said:
How ever did the matelots manage before then, during long weeks at sea?
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Maybe like this?

A young woman was very depressed and decided to end it all by throwing herself into the sea.
Just as she was about to do so though, a young handsome sailor ran down to the shore and talked her out of it.
"Look, you are young. There is so much you could do with you life." said the sailor. "In fact, my ship is sailing for America in the morning.
I'll smuggle you on board and make sure you have plenty of food.
If you'll just help me pass the lonely evening hours,
I will get you over to America where you can start a new life."

That sounded great to the young women who took up living secretly in a cabin on board ship.
Every evening the sailor would bring her some food and the two would spend the night together.

After about a week of this though, the ship's captain discovered the woman hiding in the sailor's cabin.
"What are you doing in here?" asked the captain.
"Well, I have a deal with one of your sailors.
He is smuggling me over to America, and screwing me."

"I'll say!" replied the captain. "This is the Isle of Wight Ferry."
 
Well I mentioned Nelson's day but then again we have had a Royal Navy since Henry VIII. They were certainly on ships in the 1800s. But women at sea were considered to make the ship unlucky. Sea folklore and superstitions were taken very seriously back then.
 
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