Paying for plastic bags!

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I am surprised nobody has created a thread, I did do a search but nothing came up. If there is a thread, where is it?
 
There was a 5p charge so nobody bothered to start a thread :D
 
I'm wondering what all the fuss is, been to Sainsburys a couple of times now and no panic (despite the Daily Mail's best intentions). Wondering why we didn't do it years ago like the Welsh and Scottish?!
 
Does the legislation specify 'single use' carrier bags? If so then there's rather a loop hole allowing them to give away multi use or bags for life instead.

I'm also not sure how my plastic bags that are disposed of by the council are the ones ending up around turtles and other marine life which I thought was the reason for all this?
 
because some folk always do outrage very very well
 
Why outraged? Because it's change! We can't have change. Even if it is 5p.
Just poking fun at the outraged. It was the big issue on the main news.
 
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A Lidl branch in Kirkintilloch up here have their baskets 'bugged' so an alarm goes off if you walk out with it. A small, local garden-nursery has had to put out a Facebook request for the return of their baskets.

Feel a bit sorry for that security guard, just doing what the big bosses tell him no doubt.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Poking fun? That's outrageous :p
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The forum usually has a thread about some contentious issue. And I was going to start one about the bags or even a general purpose: "get angry about..." thread. But suddenly apathy took over. We always have had to pay here in Munich, so it doesn't affect me anyway.
 
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I haven't looked myself, but who benefits from the 5p charge?
 
dejongj said:
I haven't looked myself, but who benefits from the 5p charge?
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The supermarkets at first.
But most (all of those I've shopped at) say they will donate the money to good causes. It's not always clear if it's revenue or profit they'll be donating.
 
Get a couple of "bags for life".
They do exactly what it says on the tin. When they're knackered swap them.
No reason to be taking baskets to the car any more than there is to be taking trolleys home.
It's no news news.
 
dejongj said:
I haven't looked myself, but who benefits from the 5p charge?
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Supposedly "local charities" are supposed to be given the proceeds by the supermarkets (though there is no process to check that they aren't keeping it), AND of course the government, 1p per bag goes to the Exchequer.
 
Dave1 said:
Supposedly "local charities" are supposed to be given the proceeds by the supermarkets (though there is no process to check that they aren't keeping it), AND of course the government, 1p per bag goes to the Exchequer.
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Are you certain that's correct? I can't find any reference to 1p tax. Do you mean the corporation tax on the profit? There won't be any profit on it if they're donating the proceeds (plus Tesco are making losses anyway).

Apparently for single use bags, they can deduct reasonable costs for staff training etc but NOT the cost of the bag, and must donate the net proceeds to good causes.
For reusable bags, the law doesn't apply so they can keep as much as they want. Guess what Sainsbury's is doing? :D
 
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Hmmm very odd, I have some sympathy for it if the proceeds are ring fenced for environmental projects or research but otherwise I don't get why local charities should benefit from a mandatory payment.

I'm one of those spontaneous shoppers who doesn't have bags with me. I don't care about the 5p but charity and no clear process sounds very odd.

I wonder what waitrose delivery service is doing from now on. Must ask the housekeeper :)
 
Ocado charge 5p per bag, but give you 5p per bag you give back - including bags from other supermarkets.


Edit, per Auntie Beeb;

Most supermarkets are offering a "bagless" delivery service, or are charging a standard flat fee for plastic bags per shop.

Other operators such as Morrisons and Ocado will be charging 5p per bag for deliveries. However, they will also be giving customers back 5p for the plastic bags they return to the company to recycle.
 
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Tesco aren't even close to running at a loss.
They're just making less profit than they did (or claimed they did!)
:-)
 
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I feel sorry for the bag makers....





Actually that's a big lie, it's prompted me into taking my rucksack to tesco & being far more conscious of plastic bags.

What made me laugh was in tesco my conversation that went like this

Cashier: do you want a bag
Me: no
Cashier: you have to have one you bought chicken
Me: it's fine I don't want one
Cashier: we have to give you one to prevent contamination
Me: I'll have a paper bag
Cashier: (looking confused!) we don't do those

As it was I apparently had have a plastic bag for my sealed chicken! Bizarre!
 
Llamaman said:
Ocado charge 5p per bag, but give you 5p per bag you give back - including bags from other supermarkets.


Edit, per Auntie Beeb;

Most supermarkets are offering a "bagless" delivery service, or are charging a standard flat fee for plastic bags per shop.

Other operators such as Morrisons and Ocado will be charging 5p per bag for deliveries. However, they will also be giving customers back 5p for the plastic bags they return to the company to recycle.
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For years Saunsburys has given you a penny at the checkout for every bag if your own that you use.
 
And Tesco used to give clubcard points for using your own bags. They've stopped that now.
 
Ferj said:
I feel sorry for the bag makers....





Actually that's a big lie, it's prompted me into taking my rucksack to tesco & being far more conscious of plastic bags.

What made me laugh was in tesco my conversation that went like this

Cashier: do you want a bag
Me: no
Cashier: you have to have one you bought chicken
Me: it's fine I don't want one
Cashier: we have to give you one to prevent contamination
Me: I'll have a paper bag
Cashier: (looking confused!) we don't do those

As it was I apparently had have a plastic bag for my sealed chicken! Bizarre!
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Tell them to get stuffed.
You don't "have to have" a bag for chicken, or any other fresh meat.

If that's all that will be in the bag, you're entitled to a free one (there are many exemptions to the charge).
But if anything else is packed with the exempt items, they can apply the charge.

Daft really.
 
I guess I'm missing something, but why don't they just use biodegradable bags?

I wonder whether HMRC gets charged for sending out the self assessment forms in a polywrap.
 
Llamaman said:
Are you certain that's correct? I can't find any reference to 1p tax. Do you mean the corporation tax on the profit? There won't be any profit on it if they're donating the proceeds (plus Tesco are making losses anyway).
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20% of the price is vat, the cost of the bag is 5p incl vat.

Of each 5p charge, charities are expected to receive 4p but there is anger the remaining 1p will go to the Treasury in VAT.

Paul Mitchell tweeted: "Let's not forget @George_Osborne and @hmtreasury are expected to get a £19m per year VAT windfall in the 5p plastic bag levy in England.
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-by-london-supermarket-shoppers-a3082966.html
 
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deleted (was trying to edit my post and made a duplicate of it instead).
 
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viv1969 said:
Get a couple of "bags for life".
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Tesco's were giving one free per customer, last week end.
I have 3 Tesco's express's very close, I now also have 3 bags for life :D

Ferj said:
As it was I apparently had have a plastic bag for my sealed chicken! Bizarre!
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Bags for meat and fresh fruit products are apparently free,
as are bags from retail groups that have less than 250 staff according to the radio recently..
Confused?, I'm sure you will be :D
 
kendo1 said:
The trouble is: we now have to buy bin bags
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Same here, 3 small bins around the house now need proper bin bags. I never threw old shopping bags away (empty) they were always used for bins and dog mess.
 
kendo1 said:
The trouble is: we now have to buy bin bags
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We just put it either in the erator or wheelie bins. Haven't used bin bags in years.
 
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