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Went to buxton yesterday and when we parked it was one of those parking lots where the ticket means you have to enter your registration into it.

I hate these systems, I think it's so petty. It stops you giving your ticket to someone else with time left on it.

What I don't get is - if you've paid to rent a spot for 4 hours then what should it matter whether you occupy that spot for the whole 4 hours or if you occupy it for 2 and someone else occupys it for 2. The fee has still been paid for the allotted time.

It's just a way for the council to rip off more money for parking fees. Really gets my goat.

and in busy times it takes forever to buy a ticket because you have a queue of 15 people who can't remember their reg number and spend 5 times the amount of time buying a ticket due to the extra steps
 
I can see where your coming from, but it's the same as with council houses, you can't sublet.
 
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acetone said:
I can see where your coming from, but it's the same as with council hoses, you can't sub let.
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but in a council house if you paid your rent in advance and then left the premises early wouldn't you be entitled to have a refund of prepaid rent?

also, can we really compare parking spaces with houses?
 
Never seen one of these meters before. What happens if you put someone elses reg number then overstay your time, does the bill get sent to the poor sucker who's reg you entered?
 
Not much time generally. It only requires a small amount of planning. I don't shop in places that charge for parking usually anyway.

If you don't like the system tell the council and that you won't be shopping there any more and take your business elsewhere.

Were the tickets transferrable anyway? A lot of parking tickets aren't.
 
Money-makers nothing else ... even worse are those that blatantly state "This machine does not give change"! :annoyed:
 
Where I live there is a minimum 1 hour charge. But you might only be stopping for 10mins so there's 50 mins left. You can't pay for 10 mins so no matter how good at planning you are there is always time left.

Everyone always gives their tickets to new arrivals so often you don't need to pay for that 10 minute stop.

It's a much nicer way of living and people like helping others out.
 
I don't go anywhere for 10 minutes. It isn't worth the effort!

There is a free car park in Angle street. No need to waste any money on parking.
 
frank said:
Never seen one of these meters before. What happens if you put someone elses reg number then overstay your time, does the bill get sent to the poor sucker who's reg you entered?
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The reg on the ticket is to verify that it's being displayed with the correct vehicle. If you overstay, the parking fine would be against the actual reg of the car.
 
At my local hospital you actually have to enter the space number you parked, so if you are quick and someone is waiting you can pass it on.
You have to put at least 2 hours on it as we all know how long hospital appointments can take. but they are good, if you have your bit of the ticket and are about to overun, they will get in touch with the wardens and tell them
 
srichards said:
I don't go anywhere for 10 minutes. It isn't worth the effort!
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Haven't you ever had to deposit cheques into the bank? Takes 5 or 10 minutes and in my town centre there is zero free parking, and like Joe, most council meters are 1 hour minimum.
 
srichards said:
I don't go anywhere for 10 minutes. It isn't worth the effort!
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I have to pay a cheque in once a month into the bank. It takes ten minutes. The funds appearing in my bank for me to spend make 10 minutes of time well worth the effort.
 
and they have bloody ridiculous figures in the charges.. so that they know most of the people won't have the exact change. The one near me is something like 35p for 1 hour, then 55p for 2 hours etc.. bloody con artists they are :rules:
 
leftcurl said:
and they have bloody ridiculous figures in the charges.. so that they know most of the people won't have the exact change. The one near me is something like 35p for 1 hour, then 55p for 2 hours etc.. bloody con artists they are :rules:
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Try Newcastle city centre, starts at £1 per hour :( .
 
Dave1 said:
Haven't you ever had to deposit cheques into the bank? Takes 5 or 10 minutes and in my town centre there is zero free parking, and like Joe, most council meters are 1 hour minimum.
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Many post offices allow over the counter deposits and often they're in smaller places with free parking nearby.

If I need to visit the bank then I do my normal supermarket shop during banking hours and use their car park for free and pop into the bank. Easy :)
 
srichards said:
Many post offices allow over the counter deposits and often they're in smaller places with free parking nearby.

If I need to visit the bank then I do my normal supermarket shop during banking hours and use their car park for free and pop into the bank. Easy :)
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You are lucky, most post offices around me will do normal over the counter banking like cash deposits but cheques are not processed by the post office, they will accept cheques but they actually just put them in an envelope and post them to the bank head office (in my case, to Manchester), this adds the postage time to the clearance period (at 2nd class post 3-5days) and the cheque is sent at your risk not the PO's.

Unfortunately we have yet to see a supermarket open in the centre of Newcastle, I don't think the council would allow one.
 
fabs said:
10 years ago, my dad had a heart bypass at the Royal Free hospital in Hampstead. I went to visit him and the car park was £3 an hour. As I was going to be spending most of the day wi†h him, it cost me £18! :eek:
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Hospitals can be tricky/expensive. If visiting someone on a ward for a long period of time or for several days in a row, speak to the ward sister. Folks have done this often (North Staffs) and get a huge reduced price to the standard meters out side.

Don't like the sound of the system mentioned in OP. Huge fan of giving ticket to people especially when there is plenty of time left.
 
on the other hand at least councils (unlike private parking companies) arent spending your money on paying shareholders etc - the money will (or at least ought) to go on public services where they need every penny due to the austerity cuts.

(admittedly i do remember one council officer a few years ago who with a bunch of his buddies went to a lap dancing club then put £2k through on his expenses as "qualitive research fees" -the logic being that they were considering planning for gentlemens clubs and he 'needed' to see what the were all about ( though to be fair when this came out he got sacked.) )
 
the car reg thing on the tickets also stops people contesting whether they had a ticket or not if caught. My mate used to park behind his shop in a pay & display and if he ever got a fine he would just get a ticket off someone else with the relevant date and time and send it to the council saying he had a ticket but it must have slipped off the dashboard or something.. he always got away with it that way.
 
These car parks use ANPR systems and tally timestamped reg numbers with tickets issued, and then get the registered keeper details to send a bill. They're becoming very prevalent in the Lake District honeypots, like Grasmere and Ambleside. At least if you do go over a ticket you can top up to avoid the bill, but its more expensive than getting long enough in the first place. Pricing is extortion too, some places the minimum is 2 hours at best part of 5quid - no change given, overpayment accepted. Then 'they', the National Trust, Lake District National Park Authority, and Forestry Commission, wonder why people then park in laybys, on verges, anywhere, including obstructing lanes and gateways/etc.
 
I encountered one in Newport (iow) for the first time. What utter nonsense, practically zero instructions other than enter reg and insert cash.

Also I hate pre pay cash parking, like joe said you don't always know how long you'll be. In this case how long does it take to fix a till? Fortunately I had some pounds that I could pump into it and was on expenses.

All parking should be post pay with card and mobile payment, not everyone carries shrapnel around.
 
leftcurl said:
the car reg thing on the tickets also stops people contesting whether they had a ticket or not if caught. My mate used to park behind his shop in a pay & display and if he ever got a fine he would just get a ticket off someone else with the relevant date and time and send it to the council saying he had a ticket but it must have slipped off the dashboard or something.. he always got away with it that way.
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surprsed he got away with that.

Whether you have a ticket or not is usually irrelevant. They prosecute you for not showing it properly
 
BethAtTheHug said:
. Pricing is extortion too, some places the minimum is 2 hours at best part of 5quid - no change given, overpayment accepted. Then 'they', the National Trust, Lake District National Park Authority, and Forestry Commission, wonder why people then park in laybys, on verges, anywhere, including obstructing lanes and gateways/etc.
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These beauty spots don't maintain themselves - this isnt aimed at anyone in particular , but it really boils my arse the way that people take paths, gates, bridges etc at countryside beauty spots for granted , but then moan about paying say a fiver for a few hours parking, whereas they'll happily go to a museum, zoo etc and pay considerably more than that for entrance.

For example (and I'm in devon but the principal holds) after recent flooding we've just had to put 60+ tonnes of stone into the access for all path down to the beach. That stone and contractor time wasnt free - but the access for all path , and the rest of the countryside arround it is free to enter , so is it really too much to ask for people to pay for parking to help maintain it ?

parking in passing places and gateways to avoid paying towards the upkeep of the site you are visiting is, imo, no more acceptable than climbing over the fence into a zoo to avoid paying for entry - yet loads of people who would never do the latter seem to think its okay to do the former. [/rant]
 
These system do work for certain location.
At Manchester Victoria station the pay and display carpark are used all the time by people goiug to see a show at the MEN Arena. There used to be a dodgy guy there asking for used parking ticket and then ask people to pay him. With the change many people soon realised they have purchased a ticket which was not usable. I'm actually glad that they have changed the system there as I didn't want to see these sort of people hanging around the carpark where I have parked!
 
Greedy parking companies upped the charge for the carpark everyone used for Sainsburys from 50p/hr to £1.50/hr and the council, apparently, were powerless to stop them. Result: Sainsburys lost bucket loads of business, now offer to repay your parking fee, I only go after 5pm when the charges don't apply (but of course, the rest of the town/shopping is closed or closing. Good for business, we know who's.

Edit: the car park is free after 5 but they put the barriers down about 10pm so you can't park and go for an evening out unless you pay for parking elsewhere! I am fed up with paying out to use a bit of tarmac that hasn't been maintained or altered for over 10 years.
 
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Yeah, they have these at a few places I've been to. I think the last one was Bewdley.

We had an ASDA open in Rugby a few years ago and they charge for parking because it's in the town centre. So even if I want to pop in for something quick, I still have to put a quid in to the machine (these don't need your reg). The PITA is that you have to spend over £5 to get that quid back!!!
 
Nice rant BSM. Yes, I agree to a point. I have no problem with paying for parking where there are facilities, paths, walks information, etc. As you say upkeep does cost money and everyone needs/wants their slice of the tourist cake. I do have a little problem with a muddy swamp that hasn't seen any maintenance for decades for the same money.

I also prefer giving the money to the local farmer, for eg at Gatesgarth farm Buttermere, where it's 3quid for the day, or 2quid honesty box in Threlkeld village.

I read a few weeks back that in south lakeland some car parks are dropping fees down to 20p an hour because the local traders are complaining people are going elsewhere due to unreasonable parking charges.
 
Tickets without reg numbers on have none transferable printed on them so shouldn't be passed on anyway, having said that it's just a way to extort as much as possible from customers because thats what we are when using them, dont get me started on legalised theives like banks and insurance companies :lol:
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And of course big brother knows exactly where you are at any given time.
These NPR camera's get you when you are mobile,
The parking machines get you when you are stationary ;)
 
Suz dont you ever go anywhere for a day out where you aren't sure how long you will stay or is your fun time perfectly organised to a tee as well?
 
joescrivens said:
Suz dont you ever go anywhere for a day out where you aren't sure how long you will stay or is your fun time perfectly organised to a tee as well?
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We usually stay roughly the same time in most places. A few hours. National trust places are usually free parking for members so it doesn't matter. Gardens etc are usually free or fixed cost for ages so it doesn't matter.

There's plenty of places where the length of stay is irrelevant eg Shrewsbury. Park and ride car park is free all day so it doesn't matter in the slightest how long a time you spend.

You're just not as practised as us at knowing how long you'll be anywhere ;)
 
srichards said:
We usually stay roughly the same time in most places. A few hours. National trust places are usually free parking for members so it doesn't matter. Gardens etc are usually free or fixed cost for ages so it doesn't matter.

There's plenty of places where the length of stay is irrelevant eg Shrewsbury. Park and ride car park is free all day so it doesn't matter in the slightest how long a time you spend.

You're just not as practised as us at knowing how long you'll be anywhere ;)
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Lol we're never at places the same amount of time. We are quite flexible with our fun :thumbs:

I can just see you now:

"Come on kids. We have had the pre planned amour of fun. Time to go!" :lol:
 
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It is a money making ploy by local authorities. However the other side of the argument is that local authorities have unavoidable financial demands made upon them.

For example, housing benefit legislation requires local authorities to administer the HB scheme within their local authority area. A local authority cannot decide operating the scheme is too expensive and opt out.

Central government provide a subsidy to authorities to do this administer the scheme but for many years independent analysis has been very clear that the subsidy does not cover the cost to authorities. Figures from about five years ago suggested the subsidy covers about 65-70% of the cost, so the LAs have to make up the shortfall from somewhere. These sort of charges, which annoy me too, help a little.

Dave
 
joescrivens said:
Lol we're never at places the same amount of time. We are quite flexible with our fun :thumbs:

I can just see you now:

"Come on kids. We have had the pre planned amour of fun. Time to go!" :lol:
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No kids thank goodness!

If you want more time then it's easy enough to add another hour or two or to come back again. It's such a non issue. You're making a mountain out of a nab hill :)
 
srichards said:
No kids thank goodness!

If you want more time then it's easy enough to add another hour or two or to come back again. It's such a non issue. You're making a mountain out of a nab hill :)
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At a lot of them you are not allowed to add more time, or leave and return within a set time, usually 1 or 4 hours.
 
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