Panic Buying

Might as well use water in those protein shakes.
 
We didn't partake in any panic buying when it all kicked off, expecting that after the initial surge of stupidity it would all settle down. But now we are 5 days into our 14 day self isolation period and are starting to run out of food.

Tesco delivery slots only go as far at April 14th, and none are available.
Sainsbury's have no delivery slots.
Waitrose has stopped home delivery.
Even got desperate and tried Asda, their website is down,

I guess now is time to start that diet I have been putting off. :sulk:
 
bass_junkie83 said:
We didn't partake in any panic buying when it all kicked off, expecting that after the initial surge of stupidity it would all settle down. But now we are 5 days into our 14 day self isolation period and are starting to run out of food.

Tesco delivery slots only go as far at April 14th, and none are available.
Sainsbury's have no delivery slots.
Waitrose has stopped home delivery.
Even got desperate and tried Asda, their website is down,

I guess now is time to start that diet I have been putting off. :sulk:
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Not the best choice but have you tried Iceland, hope you get something sorted
 
bass_junkie83 said:
We didn't partake in any panic buying when it all kicked off, expecting that after the initial surge of stupidity it would all settle down. But now we are 5 days into our 14 day self isolation period and are starting to run out of food.

Tesco delivery slots only go as far at April 14th, and none are available.
Sainsbury's have no delivery slots.
Waitrose has stopped home delivery.
Even got desperate and tried Asda, their website is down,

I guess now is time to start that diet I have been putting off. :sulk:
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What are you going to do?
Is there no one to help?
 
bass_junkie83 said:
We didn't partake in any panic buying when it all kicked off, expecting that after the initial surge of stupidity it would all settle down. But now we are 5 days into our 14 day self isolation period and are starting to run out of food.

Tesco delivery slots only go as far at April 14th, and none are available.
Sainsbury's have no delivery slots.
Waitrose has stopped home delivery.
Even got desperate and tried Asda, their website is down,

I guess now is time to start that diet I have been putting off. :sulk:
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I'm sure even the 14 day self isolation procedure there was provision for emergencies
It said something like if you must go out to get food or medicines do all you can to limit contact
Also the first person who suspected they had it can go out after seven days.
 
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We have just got back from Tesco, we went early to take advantage of the fact they had shut to restock overnight. Some stuff restricted to 3 items per person, some stuff was 1 per person, quite a few items still not on the shelves or in the freezers, so I fell short of my normal shop, yet it cost about £10 more.
 
Protein Shake, genius.
 
Stopped at a North London Sainsbury's on my way to work this morning for milk, hardly anyone in there and full shelves.
Seemed totally back to normal, this was 8am.
 
Water is easier to find - no need to expose yourself to so many people on your extra shopping trips. Or them to you...
 
mikew said:
Not the best choice but have you tried Iceland, hope you get something sorted
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I will have a look, thanks. Never used them before, thought that they only sold frozen food which is not something we really eat, and as such have a very small freezer.

Bobsyeruncle said:
What are you going to do?
Is there no one to help?
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My parents are pretty close. They are in their mid 60's and although they are in good health, they are also regularly visiting my granddad to care for him as he is 94 and only just come out of hospital following his most recent unintended acrobatics, so reluctant to ask them to go out any more than they really need to.
Also, see below. :)

tijuana taxi said:
I'm sure even the 14 day self isolation procedure there was provision for emergencies
It said something like if you must go out to get food or medicines do all you can to limit contact
Also the first person who suspected they had it can go out after seven days.
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Yes I saw that and I think that is what we will have to do. My wife is host monkey in our house so will have to send her out, with a bit of luck we can stretch things out for another couple of days until she reaches her 7th day.
 
i dont have a problem with skimmed milk. i wonder what all the people who seem to say that UHT milk is repulsive (i cant tell the diff personally) when they cleared the shelves of it, leaving none left for those of us who actually buy it normally? it's just easier for me as i usually shop, depending on the product with 1 or 2 as back up so i dont have to go running to the shop when something runs out, i have the next one waiting. and given how much that method has helped in this situation, i will continue (and people mocked me!) i do wonder when i will be able to get my usual 18 rolls of Nicky from Home bargains ever again! about 10 days ago i got a shop booked for 29th march from asda so i wonder what ill end up with, the bog rolls had already been removed when i amended it the other day. i was planning on adding things to before satruday but i see the site has been down for two days so i guess i wont be doing that....

*edit* managed to get into it, although it went a bit screwy half way thru my edits, i was adding some bits for my parents, so i hope i dont get things taken out for duplication (i bought loose onions for myself, and a packet for them - and greek yoghurt for them, but Skyr for myself..) still no bog roll or anti bac wipes, bleach showing as in stock but then not (aforementioned usual hoarding shopping behaviour means i have some i can give them) *edit
 
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bass_junkie83 said:
I will have a look, thanks. Never used them before, thought that they only sold frozen food which is not something we really eat, and as such have a very small freezer.
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If its "food warehouse" rather than "Iceland" ( same thing) its not a bad place to shop TBH.
Lots of fresh food as well as frozen.
Nice cheese mature cheddar #5 too.
Obviously they are suffering with the locusts, but I still managed to get most stuff the other day...
 
Cobra said:
If its "food warehouse" rather than "Iceland" ( same thing) its not a bad place to shop TBH.
Lots of fresh food as well as frozen.
Nice cheese mature cheddar #5 too.
Obviously they are suffering with the locusts, but I still managed to get most stuff the other day...
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Cheers, I actually had to google food warehouse, never heard of it before.
The nearest one to me is 45 miles away, and would mean going into Grays. Thanks, but I have plenty of grass I can eat. :LOL:
 
DK602 said:
..........Just leading on from this and it is not a 'troll post' but an alternative view (Please note they are NOT my current views but posted for debate).

(1) Pensioners are already the biggest drain on the Countries finances.
(2) pensioners do not contribute to the Countries economy.
(3) the reason for quarantine is to protect pensioners (in the main)
(4) It is pensioners that will overload the NHS
(5) It is pensioners who will cause problems with the social care
(6) saving a pensioner will only extend their lives by a short period
(7) Pensioners will cause a shortage of ventilators


........now, moving on, what happens if we can't find a vaccine for this? What happens if it becomes a common cold?

How long should we/can we keep the Country running like this just to protect pensioners?

When do we accept that they just died of old age and were to weak to fight the virus?

Who knows; maybe the virus might be something we have to live with for the foreseeable and just accept some will be vulnerable to an 'early death' due to it?
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Interesting article from Peter Hitchen -

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...ENS-shutting-Britain-REALLY-right-answer.html
 
MatBin said:
OK I'll bite
1) Many contributed more than they have taken out (in my own example I have paid NI etc for 50 years, if I get 1 yr of pension how am I a drain?)
2) Purchasing things contributes to the economy, many pensioners pay tax as they receive more in pension funds than their personal allowance
3) No its not its to protect all of us before we overwhelm the NHS and cause the young to die too
4)Possibly, unless all the young people ignore the advice then they will contribute massively to overwhelming
5)So lets kill them all and have no regard for life
6)And that is wrong how?
7)So will the young, hear about the 28 yr old footballer who needed one?
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Not forgetting the banks of mums and dads!! Free child care, etc ......................
 
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DK602 said:
Thanks for the reply Matt,

What do we do if we can't find a vaccine?
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In principle and rather simplistically as I am no expert on this...

More of us die, but eventually, we learn to live with it. We have no vaccine for the cold virus.

A virus that kills its host is an ineffective virus, even if it's as contagious as this one is.

Viruses mutate quickly and a successful virus is one that can reproduce without killing its host.

The mutations that kill their host won't survive.
 
myotis said:
In principle and rather simplistically as I am no expert on this...

More of us die, but eventually, we learn to live with it. We have no vaccine for the cold virus.

A virus that kills its host is an ineffective virus, even if it's as contagious as this one is.

Viruses mutate quickly and a successful virus is one that can reproduce without killing its host.

The mutations that kill their host won't survive.
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The article by Peter Hitchen 'indicates' that the economy of the globe is far more important than the lives of humans- it's a strong argument he puts forward.
 
Recent reports indicate Trump believes this as America will be open for business again soon and reports in the Telegraph indicate Borris didn't want a lockdown; it hasn't helped in any European Country.
 
myotis said:
In principle and rather simplistically as I am no expert on this...

More of us die, but eventually, we learn to live with it. We have no vaccine for the cold virus.

A virus that kills its host is an ineffective virus, even if it's as contagious as this one is.

Viruses mutate quickly and a successful virus is one that can reproduce without killing its host.

The mutations that kill their host won't survive.
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I read a report earlier that said this virus appeared to be mutating at a slower than predicted rate, and therefore hopes for a permanent vaccine were high.
 
I can see us following this lockdown for a short period to appease the press/public then it will be shown it doesn't work.
We will return to normal and the vulnerable will be told it's their own responsibility to quarantine.
 
After 3 weeks of lockdown, we'll be allowed out again. Cue another spike in new cases. Rinse and repeat.
 
DK602 said:
The article by Peter Hitchen 'indicates' that the economy of the globe is far more important than the lives of humans- it's a strong argument he puts forward.
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I did read that from when you linked to it earlier, but struggled to get past his ignorance of how science and scientific decision making works.

Having said that, he asks some important questions, but do we need to believe these same questions haven't been asked and debated by the government and their advisors.
 
KitsuneAndy said:
I read a report earlier that said this virus appeared to be mutating at a slower than predicted rate, and therefore hopes for a permanent vaccine were high.
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Yes, the papers I've been reading suggest the same, and that because of its structure its a virus the human body will 'remember" and learn to trigger its immune system. Not all viruses are like that.

I was just responding to the question of not being able to find a vaccine.
 
myotis said:
I did read that from when you linked to it earlier, but struggled to get past his ignorance of how science and scientific decision making works.

Having said that, he asks some important questions, but do we need to believe these same questions haven't been asked and debated by the government and their advisors.
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They will have been debated at length and by all accounts Borris did not want the economy to shut but a high proportion of the cabinet said they would resign (how true this is I don't know).
I think he has agreed to it but will then evidence it doesn't in fact help and we will go back to herd immunity and just have to accept the mortality rate?

If we consider the mortality rate is 2% of those tested and we believe the actual figure of those infected is 10 x the positive rates then the mortality rate falls but is still high
 
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Wow how good it sounds when you talk % reality comes in when you talk dead people, i didn't think lockdown was to fix it, i understood it was to try and slow it down while the care side caught up.

One reason put forward as to why Trump wanted to open things up was because of how much has been wiped off the value of his holdings.

Ok it could be wrong but i liked this explanation of what they were trying to achieve by reducing contact and infection

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mikew said:
Wow how good it sounds when you talk % reality comes in when you talk dead people, i didn't think lockdown was to fix it, i understood it was to try and slow it down while the care side caught up.

One reason put forward as to why Trump wanted to open things up was because of how much has been wiped off the value of his holdings.

Ok it could be wrong but i liked this explanation of what they were trying to achieve by reducing contact and infection

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But I think we will be shown that lockdown doesn't stop the spread and the onus will then be put on the vulnerable to isolate themselves.
 
DK602 said:
But I think we will be shown that lockdown doesn't stop the spread and the onus will then be put on the vulnerable to isolate themselves.
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I think i put slow it down
 
Nod said:
After 3 weeks of lockdown, we'll be allowed out again. Cue another spike in new cases. Rinse and repeat.
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I think the 3 weeks will depend on how much people abuse the lockdown, restrictions could well become tighter before they are relaxed.
I don't really expect to be returning back to work on the 20th April.
 
We all have to decide what human life is worth, a restriction in freedom, restriction in my self-indulgent eating habits, a small price to pay for possibly saving someone's life.
 
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