"Panasonic G series" Owners Thread

woof woof said:
The GX9 is 20mp but if it's not for you it's not for you.

I had a G7 and it displayed SS but all things have to combine for you to see it. You need to be using a shutter shock prone body, an affected lens and to be using the mechanical shutter within the affected shutter speed range.

There are also 20mp cameras in the Oly range but when I looked at them there was always something that put me off, like shutter shock or the lack of custom modes.
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My first venture into 4/3 was an Olympus e501 about 14 years ago. It actually gave very good results. It's still in the house somewhere.
I have to agree the Micro 4/3 ones have also left me feeing something is missing, so it is not something I would look at.
But when you look at them, they almost look as if the same design team designed them :)
 
Sangoma said:
I have to agree the Micro 4/3 ones have also left me feeing something is missing...
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They work for me.

In fact, I have to be careful not to leave two of them together in the dark or the little blighters will reproduce! ;)

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AndrewFlannigan said:
They work for me.

In fact, I have to be careful not to leave two of them together in the dark or the little blighters will reproduce! ;)

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I'm sure they are great if they do what you need, I have a friend who only uses Olympus, and I probably like more of her photos than anyone else, again just what I like :)
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Steelo said:
First post in this section, but you know how GAS is! Simple question really, one for the G100 owners...

I used to have a Lumix LX100 Mk1 as my "pocket camera" although it did need a bigger pocket, I loved it but got rid a while ago, I don't want to spend as much as an LX100 Mk2 at the moment after the recent swap to the Lumix S5 as my main set up. I'm now looking for a replacement for the LX100 and the G100 looks to tick some boxes, however, is it pocketable? I know it'll depend on what lens is attached, but it'll generally be a prime of the 30-40mm ish persuasion....

Thanks!
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In my view there's little to touch an LX100. I had one, but stupidly sold it. I'm now in the process of replacing my GX9 with another LX100, as it's more nearly pocketable and comes with a compact zoom lens which covers 90% of my needs. I would have gone for a Mk2 LX100, but a) they're almost impossible to find second-hand, and b) new ones are out of stock at just about every dealer. And of course they are more than twice the price that I can get a NEW Mk1 for.
 
Stephen L said:
In my view there's little to touch an LX100. I had one, but stupidly sold it. I'm now in the process of replacing my GX9 with another LX100, as it's more nearly pocketable and comes with a compact zoom lens which covers 90% of my needs. I would have gone for a Mk2 LX100, but a) they're almost impossible to find second-hand, and b) new ones are out of stock at just about every dealer. And of course they are more than twice the price that I can get a NEW Mk1 for.
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One thing that always makes me think twice about spending any significant money on a fixed lens digital camera is the possibility of sensor contamination. It may be a remote possibility but I have read reports of contamination with the LX100 and if it happens it'll be much harder to deal with than with a removeable lens camera. I do like the look of the LX100 but the thought of contamination does put me off.
 
Just got the little 30 mm macro lens for the G9/GX9. Won't be the best but gives me / daughter something to play with. If I stick with the S camera system I'll grab a macro lens for the S5 at some point. But saves me using the macro mode on my phone now :-)
 
woof woof said:
One thing that always makes me think twice about spending any significant money on a fixed lens digital camera is the possibility of sensor contamination. It may be a remote possibility but I have read reports of contamination with the LX100 and if it happens it'll be much harder to deal with than with a removeable lens camera. I do like the look of the LX100 but the thought of contamination does put me off.
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Despite owning countless compact digital cameras of various makes over the last 24 years (the first being some sort of Fuji) I have never experienced sensor dust. Maybe I've been lucky, but it doesn't appear on my radar of things of concern.
 
Stephen L said:
Despite owning countless compact digital cameras of various makes over the last 24 years (the first being some sort of Fuji) I have never experienced sensor dust. Maybe I've been lucky, but it doesn't appear on my radar of things of concern.
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It's something that worries me and yes I've seen it on used kit I've bought and they've gone straight back. Namely a Panasonic LF1 and a TZxx but I forget which one.

It's just something to factor into the decision making mix and if people decide it's a non issue they're free to do so.
 
As a matter of interest, and totally nothing to do with our earlier conversation, this was taken with my LX100 a couple of years ago when I was stationed at Jimmies hospital in Leeds having cancer treatment. I was let out every day, so of course I wandered Leeds with a camera ...

County Arcade, Leeds (2) by Stephen Lee, on Flickr
 
Snapsh0t said:
Dragonflies need a longish focal length as they won't often let you get close. A dedicated macro lens with a long focal length isn't available from Pansonic or Olympus so you're looking at third-party alternatives. One of the favourites is the Sigma 105mm with an EF-to-MFT convertor which would do the job but is a bulky combination. I have no idea how well your camera performs with adapted lenses, however. Another option would be a versatile zoom lens like the 14-140mm II which has reasonably close-focusing but you would have to add either an extension tube at the back or a close-up lens/filter on the front like a Raynox DCR-150 or https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125467130256?hash=item1d366c7990:g:tzkAAOSwXohi--in to get really close for your bugs.
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Thanks Jonathan
 
Stephen L said:
And one not taken in Leeds! (Ashington Colliery)

Pit Head by Stephen Lee, on Flickr
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I think both of those images prove a point. Modern cameras are capable of great things, even compacts. These two images are great and would only be anything less if you compared them to the same images taken with higher spec cameras, but that's not really the point of photography is it?
 
Crotal Bell said:
but that's not really the point of photography is it?
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For some people, that is the point.

Personally, all that I have ever been interested in is showing others something I've seen ( or, at one time, been paid to see :naughty: ).

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Crotal Bell said:
I think both of those images prove a point. Modern cameras are capable of great things, even compacts. These two images are great and would only be anything less if you compared them to the same images taken with higher spec cameras, but that's not really the point of photography is it?
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Keith, just to be clear a LX100 isn't a compact. It's a fixed lens MFT camera.

Soz if you did know this :D
 
woof woof said:
Keith, just to be clear a LX100 isn't a compact. It's a fixed lens MFT camera.

Soz if you did know this :D
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Now there’s a topic for discussion. When is a camera a fl MFT and when is it a compact? Is it down to sensor size? Lack of EVF? Not saying you’re not right, just asking. ;)
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
For some people, that is the point.

Personally, all that I have ever been interested in is showing others something I've seen ( or, at one time, been paid to see :naughty: ).

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True enough, some will always compare and want the best, but I'm more in your camp.
Just been out with my cheap bridge camera, and the images I don't like are the ones where I chose rubbish composition/scene.
The quality doesn't disappoint me though, although it would for some.
 
d00d said:
Ahem ... Panasonic class their LX100 and their LX15 as "Premium Compact Cameras".

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Do they? Good for them. So go and put a LX100 in your pocket.

I suppose it's where you draw the line. The TZ100 is for me only winter coat pocketable and even then I find it uncomfortable and I'd much rather put it in a bag and that's what I do because of the weight so good luck putting a LX100 in a pocket.
 
woof woof said:
Do they? Good for them. So go and put a LX100 in your pocket.

I suppose it's where you draw the line. The TZ100 is for me only winter coat pocketable and even then I find it uncomfortable and I'd much rather put it in a bag and that's what I do because of the weight so good luck putting a LX100 in a pocket.
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Well I suppose we could split hairs on this one all day, when is a compact not a compact? Some would say when it can't fit in a pocket, and that point is stated on a couple of the reviews I've seen. I suppose it has to be on the bigger side of compact for the MFT sensor?
 
Crotal Bell said:
Well I suppose we could split hairs on this one all day, when is a compact not a compact? Some would say when it can't fit in a pocket, and that point is stated on a couple of the reviews I've seen. I suppose it has to be on the bigger side of compact for the MFT sensor?
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I’m probably wrong (as usual) but my idea of a compact camera is not based on pocket size, as there is no standard definition of the size of a pocket, rather that anything with a sensor of 1” or smaller is a compact. Even though some cameras with such a sensor can be really quite large … Or maybe it could depend on weight?
 
Crotal Bell said:
Well I suppose we could split hairs on this one all day, when is a compact not a compact? Some would say when it can't fit in a pocket, and that point is stated on a couple of the reviews I've seen. I suppose it has to be on the bigger side of compact for the MFT sensor?
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Stephen L said:
I’m probably wrong (as usual) but my idea of a compact camera is not based on pocket size, as there is no standard definition of the size of a pocket, rather that anything with a sensor of 1” or smaller is a compact. Even though some cameras with such a sensor can be really quite large … Or maybe it could depend on weight?
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I liked the LF1 but gave it to one of my sisters when she eyed it up. I doubt she ever used it.

For me a compact camera is something truly small like the credit card footprint cameras we had not so long ago. Like the LF1. I still have two, a Medion and a Canon IXUS. If a camera is so big that it isn't pocketable or is so heavy that it pulls a pocket down uncomfortably and really should be in a bag I then start to wonder why I don't just take my A7 and 35mm f2.8. There are some times when a larger compact might have some advantages over the A7+35mm but the increased size and weight of smaller cameras means that my A7 gets used more than my MFT or TZ100 because mostly if I'm taking a bag I might as well take the A7. Each to their own though and a compact can offer silent shooting and a zoom lens.

I did buy another LF1 years later but it had sensor contamination so back it went.

I have been tempted to get a LX100 but I have the GX9, GX80, G100, GM5 and TZ100 so something really should go if I was to get a LX100. I suppose the obvious one to go should be the TZ100 but that camera has a 25-250mm lens and so keeps its place as it's versatile. Maybe the GX9 or GX80 would have to go instead. The G100 keeps its place as it's the only one with a fully articulated screen. The GM5 keeps its place as it'll fit in a bum bag :D

Anyway. The LX100 is lovely and tempting and if people see it as a compact camera that only adds to the appeal.
 
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woof woof said:
I liked the LF1 but gave it to one of my sisters when she eyed it up. I doubt she ever used it.

For me a compact camera is something truly small like the credit card footprint cameras we had not so long ago. Like the LF1. I still have two, a Medion and a Canon IXUS. If a camera is so big that it isn't pocketable or is so heavy that it pulls a pocket down uncomfortably and really should be in a bag I then start to wonder why I don't just take my A7 and 35mm f2.8. There are some times when a larger compact might have some advantages over the A7+35mm but the increased size and weight of smaller cameras means that my A7 gets used more than my MFT or TZ100 because mostly if I'm taking a bag I might as well take the A7. Each to their own though and a compact can offer silent shooting and a zoom lens.

I did buy another LF1 years later but it had sensor contamination so back it went.

I have been tempted to get a LX100 but I have the GX9, GX80, G100, GM5 and TZ100 so something really should go if I was to get a LX100. I suppose the obvious one to go should be the TZ100 but that camera has a 25-250mm lens and so keeps its place as it's versatile. Maybe the GX9 or GX80 would have to go instead. The G100 keeps its place as it's the only one with a fully articulated screen. The GM5 keeps its place as it'll fit in a bum bag :D

Anyway. The LX100 is lovely and tempting and if people see it as a compact camera that only adds to the appeal.
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@d00d @Stephen L
All interesting stuff gents, and having looked at many images from the various compacts, they do a great job. Now the big question (for me) do I need a compact. When I go out I always take the bridge camera in a small drop camera bag, unless I'm at work so I suppose it would be handy for that. Then again how much photography will I do when I'm at work?
I stopped off at the American Cemetery recently during a work day, and TBH the iphone did the job nicely.

If I do get one I'll go Panasonic for the continuity of menu systems. I find it helpful that the FZ82 has the same navigation as the G80, so it makes sense to stick to the same.
 
Stephen L said:
Despite owning countless compact digital cameras of various makes over the last 24 years (the first being some sort of Fuji) I have never experienced sensor dust. Maybe I've been lucky, but it doesn't appear on my radar of things of concern.
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Me neither.

I've never seen evidence of dust in a compact camera. In fact, the only time I had to clean a sensor was on a Canon 5D and that was due to my own stupidity! Luckily, I'd bought a Lenspen Sensorklear kit in a moment of weakness, so I had the fix to hand...

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Crotal Bell said:
@d00d @Stephen L
All interesting stuff gents, and having looked at many images from the various compacts, they do a great job. Now the big question (for me) do I need a compact. When I go out I always take the bridge camera in a small drop camera bag, unless I'm at work so I suppose it would be handy for that. Then again how much photography will I do when I'm at work?
I stopped off at the American Cemetery recently during a work day, and TBH the iphone did the job nicely.

If I do get one I'll go Panasonic for the continuity of menu systems. I find it helpful that the FZ82 has the same navigation as the G80, so it makes sense to stick to the same.
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My only issue with a phone and many compacts is the lack of viewfinder.

The TZ-60 and 70 are small, light and share the same (just about) menu system, they take very good HD videos, cheap batteries, and they don't cost much to buy.

Also very useful in your pocket when you have a long lens on the main camera, and something comes up, you don't have to change lenses, many time that would be too slow anyway.

The definitely have a place in my bag :)
 
Sangoma said:
My only issue with a phone and many compacts is the lack of viewfinder.

The TZ-60 and 70 are small, light and share the same (just about) menu system, they take very good HD videos, cheap batteries, and they don't cost much to buy.

Also very useful in your pocket when you have a long lens on the main camera, and something comes up, you don't have to change lenses, many time that would be too slow anyway.

The definitely have a place in my bag :)
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It's a good point about the viewfinder, but if I'm out for a day with the G80 then often the FZ82 will be in there too, with 1200mm zoom. That covers the lens change scenario. I have to say my 100-300mm lens is becoming somewhat redundant.
I haven't completely gone off the idea of a compact, but I do have to weigh up the realistic amount of times I would need it against paying the money.
 
Crotal Bell said:
It's a good point about the viewfinder, but if I'm out for a day with the G80 then often the FZ82 will be in there too, with 1200mm zoom. That covers the lens change scenario. I have to say my 100-300mm lens is becoming somewhat redundant.
I haven't completely gone off the idea of a compact, but I do have to weigh up the realistic amount of times I would need it against paying the money.
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I don't use my 100-300 as much as the 100-400, but I like it when I don't want to have the extra weight and size. It fits into a small bag quite nicely.
I also use the TZ60 when I want something less conspicuous, when I am walking and don't want to take a camera out of a bag, if I am where conditions are not good (ie drizzle of slippery mud)

If what you have, does what you need for now, then wait and see if that changes ;)
 
Crotal Bell said:
It's a good point about the viewfinder, but if I'm out for a day with the G80 then often the FZ82 will be in there too.
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I really like the FZ82.

It's the least bad balance of size, weight and capability since Nikon's S10. Like the S10, it's hard to find anything the FZ82 can't handle...

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AndrewFlannigan said:
I really like the FZ82.

It's the least bad balance of size, weight and capability since Nikon's S10. Like the S10, it's hard to find anything the FZ82 can't handle...

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I'm with @Sangoma that last shot is a cracker !
Yes I must admit I have grown to like the FZ82 more and more as I have used it and grown with it. I still make mistakes where the camera would do better if I did my bit properly.
 
Just sat here playing with this little 30mm macro lens, no additional light, jpeg out of G9 and simple edit on widows - not a bad little lens for the money. Should be fun playing around with it.

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one of the buttons on the side of said watch.
 
Just received a brand-new, boxed, LX100 Mk1 at a great price (less than a used one) from a well-known auction site. I’d forgotten just how ergonomic it is for a “compact” camera. Definitely pocketable in my winter coats but not really in summer!
 
Just a few pictures from today.

GM5 and 20mm f1.7.

Our usual bench.

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New sign.

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On the beach... and it's not raining :D

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Just wondering if the title of this forum should be changed to something like “Panasonic m4/3 cameras” so people like myself, who owns both the G9 and the LX100, don’t have to look furtively over their shoulders when talking about their smaller but just as capable cameras.
 
Stephen L said:
Just wondering if the title of this forum should be changed to something like “Panasonic m4/3 cameras” so people like myself, who owns both the G9 and the LX100, don’t have to look furtively over their shoulders when talking about their smaller but just as capable cameras.
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Thems fighting words pardner.
 
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