"Panasonic G series" Owners Thread

I've been trying to use a camera every day and it's often the GM5 but I thought it was sloooow as every time I take a picture it's a couple of seconds before I can take another and then it suddenly struck me today... Auto Review! And sure enough it was set to 2 seconds and once I'd turned it off the camera is fast :D
 
I just upgraded my G80 to a G9 and am trying to figure out what this setting is (red circle) on the screen as it doesn't appear on my G80. As far as I'm aware I've disabled everything touch screen apart from AF and frankly, I couldn't immediately see what this is from skimming the 341 page manual and I'm too lazy to look harder.

Any help appreciated!

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If it helps at all... you might have three settings, mechanical shutter, electronic shutter and Auto in which it'll swap between mechanical and electronic as it sees fit. As my cameras are limited to a max mechanical shutter speed of 1/4,000 I leave mine set to auto and it switches to the electronic shutter if a faster shutter speed is needed.
 
woof woof said:
If it helps at all... you might have three settings, mechanical shutter, electronic shutter and Auto in which it'll swap between mechanical and electronic as it sees fit. As my cameras are limited to a max mechanical shutter speed of 1/4,000 I leave mine set to auto and it switches to the electronic shutter if a faster shutter speed is needed.
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Yea thanks I've programmed it to auto, I just didn't want it enabled all the time! As it turns out it was actually because the camera was in 'silent' mode.

Cheers!
 
EDIT: found it, but will keep post here for others....'C Settings > Operation > Focus Ring Lock' was switched ON. Switching this to OFF fixed the issue (y)

Another question...manual focus doesn't appear to be working on any fly by wire lenses...it's only working when I set my Olympus 17mm into manual focus mode. Using 12-60 Leica, even when camera and lens are set to MF nothing happens.

I'm sure it's a setting but wondered if you could point me in the right direction? Firmware is 2.4 so I know it's not related to the new focus ring control setting.

Cheers
 
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Andy Into The Wild said:
EDIT: found it, but will keep post here for others....'C Settings > Operation > Focus Ring Lock' was switched ON. Switching this to OFF fixed the issue (y)

Another question...manual focus doesn't appear to be working on any fly by wire lenses...it's only working when I set my Olympus 17mm into manual focus mode. Using 12-60 Leica, even when camera and lens are set to MF nothing happens.

I'm sure it's a setting but wondered if you could point me in the right direction? Firmware is 2.4 so I know it's not related to the new focus ring control setting.

Cheers
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There's a menu setting... af+mf, which should be set to On, could be that.
 
G.A.S has got me keeping an eye out for a bargain G9 and also some lenses. Seen as for the time being my GX80 doesn't seem to be getting an upgrade, plus to make it more practical I do want a mic port at the very least.. G80 not for me mainly as there's no IBIS in 4K shooting.. anyway G9 looks like it can be had sub 600 at times.

So to make it extra practical I'd get the Olympus (grr) 7-14 2.8, Pan 12-35ii, Pan 35-100ii and call it a day. I already have the 12-32 and Sigma 60mm but figured it'd be nice to have all bases covered to use it as a back up for my pro work as well as a very capable travel kit.

Then again I'd feel sorry for my GX80 which was a cracking bargain and gets used every few days as it is.

G.A.S waffle over. Thanks for your patience.
 
Hi folks, just a quick question if I may.

For those using the 6k photo mode on their G cameras for wildlife / sports etc, which focus setting do you typically use?

I am trying to capture my dog running (on my S5 but same principles will carry over to my G9). I stick it in 6k mode, AFC and tracking but it doesn't seem to like it very much.

Just wondered if anyone here could share what they do to capture birds in motion, sports, animals and such.

Many thanks.
 
Adamcski said:
Hi folks, just a quick question if I may.

For those using the 6k photo mode on their G cameras for wildlife / sports etc, which focus setting do you typically use?

I am trying to capture my dog running (on my S5 but same principles will carry over to my G9). I stick it in 6k mode, AFC and tracking but it doesn't seem to like it very much.

Just wondered if anyone here could share what they do to capture birds in motion, sports, animals and such.

Many thanks.
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Sad to see you are getting no replies to your query. Perhaps start a new thread on the subject.

I use a meagre GX80 that doesn't have 6K but 4K Photo Mode. I never use it! I'm under the impression that the Burst function is better. And regarding AFC, I don't use that either, preferring AFS. I don't really do sport or wildlife, but occasionally freeze motion at something like 1/1000 sec on Burst Medium, getting 3, 4 or 5 shots, selecting one ... street performers or just people milling about.
 
d00d said:
Sad to see you are getting no replies to your query. Perhaps start a new thread on the subject.

I use a meagre GX80 that doesn't have 6K but 4K Photo Mode. I never use it! I'm under the impression that the Burst function is better. And regarding AFC, I don't use that either, preferring AFS. I don't really do sport or wildlife, but occasionally freeze motion at something like 1/1000 sec on Burst Medium, getting 3, 4 or 5 shots, selecting one ... street performers or just people milling about.
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I think my G9 does have it, but never used it either.
No luck finding anything on Youtube?

I think most people in the m4/3 world tend to use Olympus cameras for wildlife.
Don't think the S5 is particularly wildlife/sports orientated either.
 
Cheers for the responses. I've actually stumbled on some really good YouTube videos on the subject now so will give those ideas a go. I don't think either set up is geared heavily towards sports / wildlife but there are people out there using them and getting results. I just want to learn more about the cameras capabilities really :-)
 
Adamcski said:
Cheers for the responses. I've actually stumbled on some really good YouTube videos on the subject now so will give those ideas a go. I don't think either set up is geared heavily towards sports / wildlife but there are people out there using them and getting results. I just want to learn more about the cameras capabilities really :)
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Sounds good, i'm still learning new stuff about the G9 and had it for ages.
Admittedly will never use most of it, but good to know what it all is
 
My first camera was a Kodak Instamatic with a 43mm lens and recently I've been thinking back to those days with a small camera and a 40mm lens. So, since I got a GM5 I've started putting it in my pocket and taking it out more and in the last few weeks it's been my most used camera. The IQ is much better than I got out of the Kodak though.

GM5 and 20mm f1.7, At the seaside...

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She was cold so of course I gave her my jacket...

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The tide was coming in so we had to walk back on the path.

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I do know the horizon isn't straight in that 2nd one, that's me being creative :D
 
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Some more grab shots from the GX7, and no sign of the dreaded "shutter shocks" :naughty: ...

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The G5 doesn't show this alleged "shutter shock" either. What on earth can I be doing wrong? :wideyed: :naughty:

Dafodills in front of Costa advert at service station Topsham Road Exeter G5 P1070058.JPGBroken brick in wall Topsham Road Exeter G5 P1070052.jpgPylons in Clyst Valley from Clyst Bridge G5 P1070059.JPG
 
Andrew. You need get over this and move on. I have tried to help you understand the issue but I've given up as you're in a state of complete denial of an issue that just about everyone else with even any small amount of insight recognises as a real cross camera / lens and brand issue in certain circumstances, it's not just a Panasonic GX7 issue.

GX7 shot, no shutter shock... because I understand the issue and successfully avoided it.

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woof woof said:
GX7 shot, no shutter shock... because I understand the issue and successfully avoided it.
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My experience is that there's no issue to avoid.

Which bit of that statement can't you understand?
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
My experience is that there's no issue to avoid.

Which bit of that statement can't you understand?
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Andrew went out for a short walk today and he didn't need an umbrella.

Andrew then realised that as he didn't need an umbrella on his short walk today no one will ever need one or has ever needed one, ever, in the whole history of everything as it wasn't raining when he was out and indeed it never ever rains and it never has, ever.

Andrew posts his revelation in thread after thread.

Well done Andrew.
 
woof woof said:
Well done Andrew.
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Thank ye kindly for that sir.

I still haven't seen any sign of this alleged shutter shock so, in my experience it doesn't exist. Perhaps you should accept that as a fact and go annoy someone else? ;)
 
Andrew.

I don't really care if this gets me a time out ban as I may help someone and if so it'll be worth it.

So, I'm saying this for anyone not aware of this cross brand issue which has existed for, well, a long time across multiple models and brands.

Shutter shock is a real thing which affects some specific camera models when used with some specific lenses at some specific shutter speeds when using a mechanical shutter.

What it causes is anything from a slight softness in pictures to even a slight double image. If you have it and if you can actually see it.

Just like dust bunnies are invisible to some people shutter shock seems to be too but that doesn't mean it isn't there, it just means some people can't see it.

My pet hate is people watching TV in the wrong display mode, it drives me mad but some people just don't seem to notice. Same with dust bunnies and maybe shutter shock too.

If you can either deliberately or accidentally avoid the problem combinations of camera, lens and mechanical shutter speed you wont see it. On the other hand if you have affected kit it's actually easy to show the issue and there are multiple reviews, blogs and threads describing and discussing this with multiple camera and lens combinations across multiple brands.

Shutter shock is something that people should be aware of so that they are well informed and are able to both buy and use kit wisely.

Ignoring the issue or insisting that in your experience it doesn't exist is ok as long as you keep it to yourself but saying this on a public forum over and over again in different threads, as you have done, is a different thing because someone may actually believe the mind blowing weapons grade denial lunacy you post.

Sorry if pointing all this out annoys you but even you must admit that you're the one who brought this up. All I've done is counter your weapons grade denial with basic facts and I'll be overjoyed if you can just stop spreading misinformation and confusion so that I never feel the need to do this, ever again.

I await my ban :D and the start of the football in the hope that speaking the truth helps someone, somewhere, and at some time :D
 
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woof woof said:
I await my ban :D and the start of the football in the hope that speaking the truth helps someone, somewhere, and at some time :D
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I genuinely hope that you don't get banned,

Despite this Ide fixe of yours, you're generally good value. You just need to accept that that no-one is actually wrong in these discussions.
 
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If shutter shock doesnt exist why did Olympus create a firmware fix for it?
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You're asking the wrong question.

You should be asking: "given that I've owned and used more than a dozen M43 cameras, currently own and use seven such cameras but haven't seen evidence of this effect, why should I not be expected to be skeptical"?

In fact, over 55 years of photography and many, many cameras, I don't recall seeing this effect and I've seen many failed images. Of course, I've seen plenty of images affected by operator induced camera shake, and been the author of such problems, so I am inclined to wonder if that's the problem observed by others. However, on the basis that it's impossible to prove a negative, I don't claim "shutter shake" doesn't happen.

I am equally unable to prove that there are no fairies at the bottom of my garden but incline to the theory that strange noises and objects moved around are the work of local animals and not ethereal agencies.
 
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Andrew, why don't you just drop this as IMO you make this subject and this thread toxic.

I've persisted with and wasted my own time on you due to some mad sense of duty in the hope that I can help someone as IMO forewarned is forearmed and I'm sure we all want people to make informed buying and use choices and decisions.

I been worried about people running into this issue and getting annoyed and even wasting good money. As I did. I want people to understand the issue so that they can avoid it by making different kit and setting choices or try to avoid it if they're stuck with SS prone camera and lens combinations.

Franky though I've just had enough of you bating over this time after time and as putting people on ignore can make following threads difficult at times I don't want to do that.

And just to make clear I'm not a Panasonic or MFT basher, I've been with MFT since the GF1 and I currently have and use three MFT cameras and multiple lenses. I also have Sony kit and some of their cameras exhibit SS too. I've never seen it with my A7 and any lens I've used on it but I have seen another issue which is sensor reflections which are most likely when using the Sony 35mm f2.8 with light sources in the frame. I know about this issue and have therefore been able to make informed decisions.

I do hope you can drop this if only so you don't risk misleading anyone not aware of this real issue affecting certain camera and lens combinations in certain circumstances. And just to be clear (again) this isn't just a Panasonic issue, it's happened with other marques too.
 
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woof woof said:
I do hope you can drop this if only so you don't risk misleading anyone not aware of this real issue
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OK. So you can't handle disagreement. That's your choice.

You do realise that it's entirely possible we're both right, in that you've observed something which I haven't? If you want me to be silent on this subject, all you need do is shut up as well. I know it's a novel idea but that's all it takes.
 
I do know one thing and that is companies don't spend time and money on something that is just hearsay.
 
tijuana taxi said:
companies don't spend time and money on something that is just hearsay.
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...so you've never heard of the Ford Edsel or the disaster that was the Delorean Motoer Company (that's $120 milion the British tax payer will never see again). :banghead:
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
OK. So you can't handle disagreement. That's your choice.

You do realise that it's entirely possible we're both right, in that you've observed something which I haven't? If you want me to be silent on this subject, all you need do is shut up as well. I know it's a novel idea but that's all it takes.
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You persistently deny the existence of a real issue, an issue acknowledged and fixed by some manufacturers including Panasonic. This is no industrial hushed up secret. It all happened so your denial is very odd behaviour.

If you've never seen this issue it's because you haven't used affected camera and lens combinations within the problem mechanical shutter speed range or actually, thinking about it it's even possible that you have the issue and you just don't recognise it.

Andrew, believe whatever you want but for the sake of anyone who doesn't know about SS I do hope you'll stop posting your bizarre denial views on line as someone could just be influenced by you and end up with a problem they could have avoided.

And I've wasted enough time on you. The rest is down to you and your conscience and I'm frankly sick of adding balance and facts to counter your bizarre posts.
 
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AndrewFlannigan said:
...so you've never heard of the Ford Edsel or the disaster that was the Delorean Motoer Company (that's $120 milion the British tax payer will never see again). :banghead:
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The Delorean could time travel, saw that on the screen with my own eyes.
120 mil well spent in anyone's book, right result.

No, I havent heard of the Ford Edsel, doesn't mean it isn't real though.
There again it might not, bit like Schrodingers Shutter Shake.
 
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woof woof said:
I'm frankly sick of adding balance and facts to counter your bizarre posts.
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Can I take it that you're going to drop the subject once and for all - or are you going to come back to it like a dog with a half buried bone? :ROFLMAO:
 
One last one before bed.

GM5 and 20mm f1.7.

Mrs WW visits Shirley the beach hut.

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I've been thinking about what kit I want to use to pursue my little hobby recently. I was pretty much on the verge of giving up with MFT as I wasn't using the kit much but the GM5 has rekindled my interest in the system and I've been putting it in my pocket when going out when I didn't want to take a bag with my Sony A7 in it. I bought the 20mm f1.7 to use on it, this is the third I've had. I also bought a 14mm f2.5 but haven't used it yet. I had one of those years ago and sold it but rebought one because it's so small and makes a nice pair with the 20mm.
 
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