"Panasonic G series" Owners Thread

I said goodbye to my trusty G2 today. I was going to look at a om-d but just did not like The way it handled. Tried a G6 and that was alright but I ended up walking out with a white EP-3 and got a really good deal as the EP-5 was due in. Spent the day playing with it and have been impressed. Only now need to find a vf-2.
 
Appreciated all the input on my white balance issue, I could kick myself!

All corrected now straight out of the camera Jpegs no PP:)

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Here's an unfair but fun comparison of my newly received Rokkor 85mm f2 and my Sigma 85mm f1.4. The Sigma is a modern AF lens and it has HSM whereas the Minolta is manual focus and f2, but still...



 
To me that just shows how tightly they can pack those little autofocus gubbins, most of the size difference is due to F1.4 v F2 ...
 
To me that just shows how tightly they can pack those little autofocus gubbins, most of the size difference is due to F1.4 v F2 ...

Maybe, a fairer comparison between my Sigma 50mm f1.4 and Rokkor 50mm f1.4 shows quite a difference.





Of course, gthis doesn't take in the performance of each lens such as vignetting and sharpness etc.
 
I thought I'd do a little write up on my recent Rokkor purchases...

MD 24mm f2.8.
It's a compact lens and it's physically smaller than my Rokkor MD 28mm f2.8. Other than that there isn't too much to say about it other than it appears to be a very good lens and use usable and sharp from f2.8.

I'd read reviews of the 55mm thread version and it's apparently thought to be an excellent lens, so much so that Leica bagged it and sold it as one of their own, allegedly, that's what I read anyway... but that's the 55mm thread version and I went for the later and more compact 49mm thread version. There's less about this version on line but I have to say that I just can't see anything wrong with this lens at all and I'd be amazed if in use I could see any great improvement in real world images taken with the 55mm version.

Anyway, I'm happy with the lens, it's usable from f2.8 and the bokeh seems to be quite good. One thing I normally do is check how easy it is to fill the frame with a lens and in this regard the 24mm does a little better than the 28mm.

One minor quibble is that the lettering on the lens isn't as pretty as my other Rokkors. The 24mm has sort of dull white distances in meters and goldish distances in feet whereas my other Rokkors have brighter white distances in meters and bright green distances in feet.

MD 35mm f1.8.
I recently bought a f2.8 version and liked it so much that I bought the more expensive f1.8 version. It's sharp from f1.8 but the bokeh is very subject dependant, for example if the background is busy (such as foliage/flower shots and the like) the bokeh can look unattractive, but at f2.8 I think it's actually better and as good as I'd hoped it would be at that aperture. On the positive side it'll focus a little closer than the f2.8 version making it possible to fill the frame more but at f1.8 and at these distances the DoF is minuscule and any subject or camera movement matters.

So, another really good lens and the only thing to watch is the possibility of unattractive bokeh at f1.8 and minuscule DoF at minimum focus distance.

MD 85mm f2.0.
There seem to be differing opinions as to which is the best version of the various Rokkor 85mm lenses. Some seem to go for f1.7 versions but I went for the later f2 49mm thread version.

Again, there's nothing to really criticise. It's sharp from f2 and the bokeh seems to be rendered smooth and looks very good to me.

One thing to watch with longer legacy lenses is the shutter speed. When mounted on a non stabilised body like my G1 the equivalent focal length of 2 x 85mm means that unless you're Superman on beta blockers you're going to need a shutter speed going into the 1/100's and above... or tripod. I can't see myself using the 85mm much for that reason just as I can't get much use out of my 135mm but it's there if I want it and if there's enough light to keep the shutter speed up and the ISO down.

So, three really good lenses :D
 
So, three really good lenses :D

............To add to the others. That must be quite a collection you are getting there.

I've just bought a 50mm f4 macro SMC takumar which I'll have a play with later. Its amazing how many lenses I actually need!
 
Stop me before I buy again . . . :-D

I know what you mean about shutter speed. I bought a £15 Vivitar 70mm-210mm and it's a real struggle to find any usable hand-held shutter-speed below 400 ISO. I was up at 800 ISO at times. Not as ecstatic as I was with my nifty fifty, but not bad for £15.


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Yes, it needs a clean.
 
............To add to the others. That must be quite a collection you are getting there.

I've just bought a 50mm f4 macro SMC takumar which I'll have a play with later. Its amazing how many lenses I actually need!

It's a small collection really and a fraction of the cost of my Canon fit AF lenses...

Zuiko 28mm f2.8, 50mm f1.7, 135mm f3.5.

Rokkor 24mm f2.8, 28mm f2.8, 35mm f1.8, 35mm f1.7, 50mm f1.4, 50mm f1.7, 85mm f2, 135mm f3.5.

Rokkor fit... Vivitar 28mm f1.9, Sigma 50mm f2.8 macro.

I've been thinking of getting a longish zoom, something like a 35-250, 70-300 or something like that.
 
I just swapped over from my MF legacy lens to my Sigma 30mm M4/3 lens. I turned off "shoot without lens" mode. I then noticed that I was getting weirdly long shutter speeds in aperture mode - and that the lens was changing aperture when I pointed the camera in different directions. Anyone seen this before? If it's in aperture mode, it shouldn't be changing the aperture at all, right? And in normal operation, it should be keeping it wide open and only stepping down to take the photo?

Anyhow, I took the battery out, waited a bit, put it back in, and it SEEMS to be ok now. The reason I'm paranoid is that like an idiot, I absent-mindedly tried to put the MF lens on without the adaptor, and clunked it into the body, and am of course convinced that I've damaged the sensor or something. (It looks fine though)
 
Any feedback yet from new G6 owners?

Thanks in anticipation!
 
Any feedback yet from new G6 owners?

Thanks in anticipation!

I bought a G6 to tie me over whilst waiting for the EP5. The plus points are the ergonomics. I really like how it feels in the hand, the control wheels are in the right place. Also the video capability is fantastic.

I was worried about build quality, but although it feels plastic it is not as bad as my initial thoughts were.

The not so good are the stills. I think they are noisy above ISO800. It just doesn't wow me at all. Now if the video wasn't so good I'd already returned it, I give it until after this weekend to make up my mind...
 
Any feedback yet from new G6 owners?

Thanks in anticipation!

If you look back up this thread, you'll see some initial thoughts from me about my G6. So far I'm absolutely loving it. Don't buy it if you want a step change in IQ over the G5, but the increase in functionality made it worth every penny to me. I'm not finding any issues with noise, but then I've only had it up above ISO800 a couple of times so far.

Here's a link to the latest photos I've taken with it. Note there might be one or two GH2 photos in there as well:-

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=493699

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=491949

Cheers,

Simon.
 
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Here are a couple of mine on the G6 from last week...

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Are those heavy crops? They lack any sort of definition to me, with nothing appearing to be sharp.

What lens was used?

Told you I am not impressed with the G6, that is with the 35-100 f2.8. But heavily cropped, I was up in block 306, three floors up at centre court.

Whilst technically it might not be sharp, to me a photo isn't about that :thumbs:
 
Whilst technically it might not be sharp, to me a photo isn't about that :thumbs:

Sorry, my post seems totally negative, I understand the power of the image (and the memories it will evoke for you), I was only commenting on the technical and should probably have said so.
 
Told you I am not impressed with the G6, that is with the 35-100 f2.8. But heavily cropped, I was up in block 306, three floors up at centre court.

Whilst technically it might not be sharp, to me a photo isn't about that :thumbs:

What was the temperature on court? If it were above 30deg C and your shooting from a distance back over a lot of people and plastic chairs, they could be suffering from a bit of heat haze / distortion.

Here's one of mine with the G6 taken with a legacy Canon 200mm f2.8 nFD lens


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Cheers,

Simon.
 
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Has anybody here gone from a GX1 to a G6?
I am considering this option but only if it offers considerable improvement in picture quality.
Otherwise might just wait for the GX1 replacement.
 
Sorry, my post seems totally negative, I understand the power of the image (and the memories it will evoke for you), I was only commenting on the technical and should probably have said so.

Thank you, but no worries as I said I'm not fully convinced about the G6 yet...Maybe it is just my model...
 
Thank you, but no worries as I said I'm not fully convinced about the G6 yet...Maybe it is just my model...

I think that with us lot being at least part geek there's a tenancy to nit pick and even though I know I'm guilty of that I also know that the G6 will at least be perfectly adequate... I do worry slightly that the usual review site(s) are producing numbers that seem to be saying that in the lab at least the new G6 doesn't seem to quite match the older G5. The geek in me screams that that's unacceptable and that Panasonic need a boot up their arse but in reality and in the real world the picture may indeed be different.

I hope they get their act together with the soon to be announced rangefinder style model as if it's yet another is it better/is it actually worse than the previous model argument Panasonic will loose my interest and my money.
 
I've never had a panasonic before, so can't compare it to the G5 or anything. Maybe I've been spoiled by the D7000 and its low light abilities...
 
I do worry slightly that the usual review site(s) are producing numbers that seem to be saying that in the lab at least the new G6 doesn't seem to quite match the older G5.
DxO has the two as identical (bar minor ISO differences).
 
DxO has the two as identical (bar minor ISO differences).

Not quite identical, but as I did say there's a tendancy to nit pick.

G5 / G6.

Overall 61 / 61
Portrait 21.4 / 21.3
Landscape 11.6 / 11.5
Sport 618 / 639

This may or may not make a difference but the fact that we're nit picking between the G5 and the G6 sort of prooves my point that Panasonic aren't trying to market a cutting edge camera in this market segment. The fact that the G6 is so close to the G5 is damning IMVHO. Panasonic just don't seem to be moving still image quality forward and I think it's fair to say that out of Fuji, Sony and even Olympus (not even looking at Samsung) Panasonic are at the bottom of the pack for potential still image quality despite having the "newest" product. In reality of course it isn't new it's a warmed over product and IMVHO a lazy effort heading more of less straight to bargain end of line sell off prices.

This is really why I can't buy fully into the system, I don't think they're trying hard enough. They should have a cutting edge (still image quality wise) product with a max sutter speed of 1/8000, a base ISO of at lest 100 if not 50 and the ability to soot RAW at that ISO. They should have also had a RF style camera with built in VF years ago. I only have 2 AF lenses so switching systems will be easy for me.
 
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Not quite identical, but as I did say there's a tendancy to nit pick.
Have a look at the graphs. You can't tell them apart. The differences are within experimental error....

This is really why I can't buy fully into the system, I don't think they're trying hard enough. They should have a cutting edge (still image quality wise) product with a max sutter speed of 1/8000, a base ISO of at lest 100 if not 50 and the ability to soot RAW at that ISO. They should have also had a RF style camera with built in VF years ago. I only have 2 AF lenses so switching systems will be easy for me.
Yup. I agree. Higher flash sync speed would be good too. The GH3 is the only option for me at the moment. I'm still sorely tempted (especially with the free grip offer). I know it is too big for you, but it is ideal for me.

If only Oly did decent ergonomics....
 
Can someone from G5 owners confirm please - does it have orientation sensor?
Will it automatically rotate photos made with for example 20mm 1.7 pancake?
 
Can someone from G5 owners confirm please - does it have orientation sensor?
Will it automatically rotate photos made with for example 20mm 1.7 pancake?
Yes.
 
matt b said:
I said goodbye to my trusty G2 today. I was going to look at a om-d but just did not like The way it handled. Tried a G6 and that was alright but I ended up walking out with a white EP-3 and got a really good deal as the EP-5 was due in. Spent the day playing with it and have been impressed. Only now need to find a vf-2.

Hi
Why not get yourself a VF-4 - the latest viewfinder for the E-P5
Its rated by many as the best electronic viewfinder they have used
They are backwards compatible with the older PEN models albeit with a software update perhaps and dont cost a huge amount extra (circa £250.00)
The only exception to the operational compatibility is that the eye detection switch does not work on older models but then there is no such facility on the VF-2 or 3
Regards
Rob
 
Hoping some of you guys in here might be able to point me in the right direction. Have a D7000 which I am currently selling due to being too bulky to carry around so going to downsize. Have been looking at the Panasonic Lumix GX1 or the GF5 but can't decide between them both have pros and cons. Will probably get the 14-42 power zoom lens to start with. Which is the better camera?
 
Hi
Why not get yourself a VF-4 - the latest viewfinder for the E-P5
Its rated by many as the best electronic viewfinder they have used
They are backwards compatible with the older PEN models albeit with a software update perhaps and dont cost a huge amount extra (circa £250.00)
The only exception to the operational compatibility is that the eye detection switch does not work on older models but then there is no such facility on the VF-2 or 3
Regards
Rob

I tried the vf4 on it and think it looks far to big a clumsy, also not in silver at the moment.
 
Hoping some of you guys in here might be able to point me in the right direction. Have a D7000 which I am currently selling due to being too bulky to carry around so going to downsize. Have been looking at the Panasonic Lumix GX1 or the GF5 but can't decide between them both have pros and cons. Will probably get the 14-42 power zoom lens to start with. Which is the better camera?

The GX1
 

Dont know much about the GF5, but when I was looking to upgrade from the GF1, I discounted the GF models immediately as they seem to lack many enthusiast type features - the most important of which was the lack of hot shoe - meaning no external flash. If you ever plan to do any decent indoor photography surely you need an external flash. I recently purchased a wireless trigger kit and two flashes and did some great well lit portraits of my son - just don't think that would have been possible with a GF5.

Also, I believe the GX1 definitely has better manual controls.
FYI - I used to be a Nikon guy - D50 and then D80. I initially downsized to the GF1 when it came out and then upgraded to the GX1 approx 18months ago.
 
I really wouldn't know if the GX1 is better than the G5 as I have only used the GX1.

If you are moving from. DSLR you must remember that you may to buy a viewfinder and that can impact if you have a desire to use an external flash on the hotshoe. To me that's the only physical downsize.

I moved from a D300 and D90 and have not yet properly regretted the small factor, but as I just take photos as a hobby. That said, I am considering buying a DSLR for studio work.
 
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I loved my GF1 until I realised I couldn't do without a VF.

Yet another flower shot...

 
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